Please check Sanjay Subrahmanyam about the perpetuation of the
cock-and-bull story of Ibn Majid in his book *The Career and Legend of
Vasco da Gama*.
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?203436
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On 10 May 2011 03:31, Goanet Reader goanetrea...@gmail.com wrote:
GERMAN COFFERS,
this book will be the beginning of
more to follow.
Teotonio R. de Souza
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* * *
IS YOURS one of the stories of Goans on board the S.S.
Dwarka, or at the Strait of Hormuz, Basra or Bahrain, Dubai,
Swindon, Mombasa, Poona or Rangoon? Selma Carvalho's new book
*Into the Diaspora
daughter Lilian. My heart-felt sympathies to the family
and friends.
Teotonio R. de Souza
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http://bit.ly/aBMS9z
Gilbert wrote:
.«..writers like Devika should for a minimum give us the time-line of
when SFX left Goa, when he died and when the Inquisition came to Goa.?
Then any second grader in school can see the fallacy / hollowness of
the connection, however intriguing that may sound.? Keep up
this?'good'
Message: 1
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 14:07:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com
To: goa...@goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet] Deccan Herald interview
Message-ID: 485515.8598...@web46010.mail.sp1.yahoo.com
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Teo should realize that the
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:15:58 +0530
From: Frederick Noronha f...@goa-india.org
To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!
goanet@lists.goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet] Inflation in EIP (Estado India Portuguesa)
Instead of official exchange of currencies, what FN should find and display
?
Teotonio R. de Souza
Message: 7
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:38:47 +0530 (IST)
From: Noel DCosta noelcos...@yahoo.co.in
To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list
goanet@lists.goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet] Catholic Church beware of Neo colonoliasm
Message-ID: 754684.47090
I would like to read the comments of Goanetters about this book by Tom Capri:
http://www.virobscurus.com.br/eng/index.asp
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *
Two new showrooms/office spaces, double height (135 sq m each with bath)
for
attributes the originality to me
and the whole harangue follows! Also several other conclusions he draws are
emotional and non sequitur.
Teotonio R. de Souza
to later periods and more modern times. YI have my other writings
for the more recent periods and those could be quoted, but not Medieval Goa.
Teotonio R. de Souza
http://bit.ly/MBZqo
http://bit.ly/vsl0O
This is what Henrique Salles da Fonseca wrote in 2006:
Message: 8
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:12:48 +0100
From: sallesfons...@sapo.pt
To: goanet goa...@goanet.org
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese
The main purpose of Teotonio is to blame Portugal and nothing
else!
Like the Israelis the Goa brahmins / chardos may refuse to attend.
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:40:28 +1000
From: Ruby Goes rubyg...@bigpond.com
Subject: [Goanet] VOA News - UN Conference on Racism Opens Monday
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
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This YouTube has raised a nest of hornets in Portugal these days. The
song is attributed to a trio band XutosPontapes[ShootKick] known
for their social critique over the past decades. This latest song is
likely to be used to good effect on the eve of
the national elections.
I am presenting a quick
In a recent post Selma identifies poder with chardo caste. Several poder
families in Bardez came from Majorda in Salcete and I have known at least
one that was of Shudra caste.
But Selma and Antonio will know the old saying: *Te firangi gele and te
undde kabar zale.* Even today one tastes good
I had it in Portugal in 11 days, two years ago.
Teotonio
Message: 1
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:55:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Eugene Correia gene_corr...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Goanet] OCI Card
To: goa...@goanet.org
Message-ID: 737665.73873...@web34608.mail.mud.yahoo.com
From March 2006 to June 2007, six Indian priests arrived in Owensboro. The
first three were assigned two small rural parishes each, in the rural Lake
Barkley region.
In one, the people were so afraid that the diocese would close their parish
that they were relieved and elated to hear about the
Gilbert Lawrence needs to be thankful to Goanet. Whoever whould know of him
otherwise?
Message: 4
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:58:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goanet spicing the original articles?
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Message-ID:
I am glad Santosh has raised this important point. My article published in
the *Semana de cultura* by V.M. has as its title UNWRAPPING GOAN IDENTITY.
However, it appeared on Goanet Reader posted by FN with a subtitle! I have
yet to check if any other changes were introduced.
I feel that no
Victor
Check the archives of Goa Research Net.
I could send you the photo again. It was taken by me in 1993.
Teotonio
Message: 4
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:15:39 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Banyan trees on Aguada/Sinquerim hill
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID:
For those interested in the History of Slavery in Goa till its final
abolition, please utilize the following link to donwload my text just
published by TADIA.
http://tinyurl.com/5vgq76
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *
ANKA SERVICES
For all your Goa-based media
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *
ANKA SERVICES
For all your Goa-based media
Would any goanetter be able to briefly sum up the picture of
socio-political-economic situation of these two territories since they were
detached from Goa? What would be the proportion of Christian communities and
what is their political presence?
Teotonio R. de Souza
[ http://tinyurl.com
suddenly on 7 Feb. 1776 in his residence at Daugim, after he had returned
from a dinner with the Governor.
Teotonio R. de Souza
http://tinyurl.com/5ke3zo
Message: 6
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:07:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Bishop of Halicarnssus
God never makes a mistake...
Once upon a time a nobleman went hunting and took an assistant along. The
nobleman did not believe in the kindness of Goa, while the assistant never
ceased repeating that God never lets anyone down and never makes a mistake.
During the hunt the nobleman was attacked
Dear Gilbert
It is easy to question others, it is more difficult to give one's own
answers! Giving answers or making statements requires research and hard
work. Will you try in future to change your style of sending posts? Let us
have some of your *well-substantiated* views, instead of seeking
Dear Venantius et al
As regards Indians easily changing names, mis-spelling names, it must be
said that many did it for the same reasons why they are seeking Portuguese
citizenship today, namely practical needs of life. One need not search for
ideologies or patriotisms, or blame priests of
FN is right in referring to a reference of mine to the links of the early
founders of the Society of Jesus to the declining feudal aristocracy. The
very foundation could be viewed as their effort at finding a socio-economic
solution (gainful self-employment?) to their plight. This analysis could
According to me it is also a case that fits into the old aristocratic mould
in the phase of transition. It also belongs to the phase of the founders
with Fr. Peter Canisius playing an active part in the formation of Stanislas
John Kostka, father of Stanislas was a senator of the Kingdom of
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Tri Continental Film Festival 2008
July 25 -
Judas Barros restless continue aflame!
Teotonio R. de Souza
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Paço Patriarcal / Bishop's House, Altinho
Message: 7
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:24:03 + (GMT)
From: JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Talking Photo: Can you identify this Palace?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Do you have any video made of fire-walking?
Teotonio
Dear Fred
Please accept my heartfelt condolences on the demise of your mother. It is
like losing your roots. It means an added responsibility for you towards
future generation.
Teotonio
I have submitted JM's report on goanet to the best present-day expert on
PIDE in Portugal. I shall get back as soon as I get some feedback.
More recently one of the close collaborators of CM, namely Rosa C. who
murdered Humberto Delgado, died very recently in Spain, but not before
publishing an
Why? Just curious and also sad.
Nalini had been courageous is setting up the Nau, and deserves credit for it
TRS
Message: 4
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 14:53:04 -0500
From: Communicare Trust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Sale at A Nau
To: Goanet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I shall be thankful if Prajal could let us know on what basis he has reached
the conclusions about dating Kunbis in Colamb, or tracing the chronology of
pre-dravidians and dravidians in Goa, or attributing the gaunkaris to
Kunbis / Velips.
Mere conjectures? What sort of gaunkaris were those
I can fully sympathize with Dr. Anesimo. However, let us not forget that
democracy is a messy way of finding the way, because it needs to adjust to
the demands to all sectors of the population. And many sectors of the
population do not often know what they want, or do not want to dirty their
hands
Dear Santosh, Fr. Ivo, et al
I have been following your discussions with some interest. They date back to
the days of 18th century enlightenment in Europe! And they are still going
on because it is difficult to reconcile human interests? Were the ardent
defenders of enlightenment necessarily
a
Hindutva source? It looks as if this Hindutva is in many ways bloodier
than the Inquisition it seeks to condemn.
Teotonio R. de Souza
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:58:32 +0530
From: Sachin Phadte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Details of the Goa Inquisition or Hindutva cyber
crimes
to me in any of my writings, instead of uncritically
forwarding such material. It could also by considered as complicity in
cyber-crime.
T.R. de Souza / Teotonio R. de Souza
Message: 5
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:21:05 +0530
From: Sachin Phadte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Details of the Goa
of Spain and Portugal! It
narrates briefly his background in old Kanada script. The State interpreter
has it translated into Portuguese. King Phillip replied to his request
favourably. All this in 1619.
Teotonio R. de Souza
to take part in the celebration of the
Three Kings feast in Cansaulim'?
Perhaps, Dr. Teotonio R. de Souza
[EMAIL PROTECTED] could come up with a solution
in the New Year 2008 - to celebrate caste-free and
Gaunkari-free 'Three Kings' feast of Cansaulim.
Cip
--- Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL
filling the Goanet, my best wishes to all chaste
Goans (Casti Goanni, as Pope Pius XI would say) for a casteless new year!
Teotonio R. de Souza
http://tinyurl.com/yrp74l
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Spread the Christmas Cheer, even when you're
According to information conveyed to me by Rita Henriques of the Casa
de Goa, Mr. Jorge de Abreu Noronha (b. 29.07.1930) passed away today,
27 Nov. 2007. His body will remain exposed at the mortuary chapel of
Figueirinha (Oeiras) from 17 h tomorrow evening, and will be moved to
the crematorium of
/Wikipedia_Konkani
From the above link it appears that the project was rejected but not
refused! See what that means. I do hope Fred and other Konknni lovers
do not desist.
Teotonio R. de Souza
http://www.GOANET.org
International Cuisine Conference on Traditional Asian Diet
Panaji, Goa, September 2-5,
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The First Konkani E-Cinema
BLACK Nhesop Atanchem
of his
ancestry? What were van Camps doing in Goa at that time? This could help us
understanding little better our history.
Teotonio R. de Souza
Message: 9
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 10:14:39 -0400
From: els verwimp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] How to contact (and expect an answer) Parish
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CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD
Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at:
http://www.casadegoa.org
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I read in an troduction to a published Ph.D. thesis that
Thanks for the advice. It is a good qualifier and will come handy when some
other-wise Goan seeks archival help. I am glad Selma appreciates the
documentation value of gossip, but is afraid to use it.
Teotonio R. de Souza
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:36:08
@lists.goanet.org
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--- Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Fortunately we always have
some redeeming features
and participants.
Teotonio R. de Souza
I think it is one of the unwritten rules of internet
forums, atleast
me angry and disdainful about some
contributors to Goanet. Fortunately we always have some redeeming features
and participants.
Teotonio R. de Souza
Message: 11
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:10:17 +0100 (BST)
From: CORNEL DACOSTA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] H.O. Mascarenhas - a jesuit
http://www.GOANET.org
This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor
by St. Xavier's, Mapusa.
Teotonio R. de Souza
of the programme and organization of the event may be consulted
at
http://www.grupolusofona.pt/portal/page?_pageid=33
1357796_dad=portal_schema=PORTAL
Teotonio R. de Souza
FLUBE . Member of the Exectuive Committee.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1503/teo_publ.pdf
is he and why can't he post for
himself?
No disclaimers seem to me sufficiently disclaiming in such cases.
Teotonio R. de Souza
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:20:11 +
From: Constantino Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Opposition to Dr
Source: Correio da Manhã
Lisbon, 5-1-2007
Diaspora: A lakh of Portuguese abandon Portugal in 2006
Growing emigration crisis
The difficulties faced by our country are forcing increasingly more citizens
to seek job abroad.
The National Institute of Statistics (INE) reports that in
More info:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-December/051747.html
Could any goanetter indicate where Xanti Nixa - Silent Night in Konkani can
be heard or downlodaded?
Teotonio R. de Souza
.
Teotonio R. de Souza
Message: 15
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 18:49:25 -0500
From: Jean Marcos Catao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Graduates of Goa Medical School 1902-1942
Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network
on Goanet seem to contain nothing that comes even
close to any original research, adding nothing to statement of one's pet
opinions. There is nothing wrong in that too, except when it gets translated
into nasty wars of words, short of «gai-fosteo»!
Teotonio R. de Souza
From: Frederick \FN\ Noronha
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