Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed? How about coerced dowry and greed?

2007-12-15 Thread Gabe Menezes
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[Goanet] Sati tradition or greed? How about coerced dowry and greed?

2007-12-13 Thread Mario Goveia
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Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed? How about coerced dowry and greed?

2007-12-10 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 09/12/2007, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario responds: Gabe, Only time will tell whether your sage sources are right or not about the consequences of the growing disparity between the number of men versus women in India, or my rudimentary opinion. RESPONSE: There is no

Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed? How about coerced dowry and greed?

2007-12-10 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:33:38 + From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no need to wait for time to tell; women trafficking is already happening in India right now, the rape of women in India and especially in Delhi is a frightful reality. Be man enough, get off your high horse,

[Goanet] Sati tradition or greed? How about coerced dowry and greed?

2007-12-09 Thread Mario Goveia
Sat Dec 8 03:02:48 PST 2007 From Gabe Menezes gabe.menezes at gmail.com You really need to read the whole piece, because of your rudimentary economic model, that you seem to think will make women better off ! (in India) Mario responds: Gabe, Only time will tell whether your sage sources are

Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed? How about coerced dowry

2007-12-08 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:09:20 + From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My 'opinion' on the subject was: What is already out in the open World Wide Forum; a subjective study of the Chinese situation. With female foeticide and the subsequent, imbalance and the problems thereby arising. Thus my

Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed? How about coerced dowry

2007-12-08 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 08/12/2007, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario responds: I speculated on what the growing imbalance between men and women in India would lead to. You apparently quoted a subjective study of what some sage thinks is happening in China, a country with a different moral compass

Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed? How about coerced dowry

2007-12-07 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 08:09:40 + From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unlike you I do not have 'opinions' on every and all subjects. Fools rush in where wise men fear to tread. Alexander Pope(1688-1744) Mario responds: In that case, which of Alexander Pope's two men were you acting like

Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed? How about coerced dowry

2007-12-07 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 06/12/2007, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 08:09:40 + Mario responds: In that case, which of Alexander Pope's two men were you acting like when you wrote the following opinion in your previous post on this very subject, What a simplistic approach; the

Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed? How about coerced dowry

2007-12-06 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 05/12/2007, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario asks: So, what's YOUR complex approach, Gabe? You have failed to say. Since I was speculating on what may happen as the imbalance among men and women grows in India, something that is happening already, what do YOU think is

Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed? How about coerced dowry and greed?

2007-12-05 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 04/12/2007, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. There is another scenario that is evolving in India that may paradoxically begin to turn the tide. With the ratio of men to women shifting because of gender-selection abortions of female foetuses and the

Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed

2007-12-05 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 04/12/2007, Bhandare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Santosh that no topic should be out of bounds on a public secular forum. If conjectures about sati ,caste and other supposedly hindu evils are allowed I hope the moderators wil also allow conjectures about pedophilia, slavery,

[Goanet] Sati tradition or greed

2007-12-05 Thread Bhandare
I agree with Santosh that no topic should be out of bounds on a public secular forum. If conjectures about sati ,caste and other supposedly hindu evils are allowed I hope the moderators wil also allow conjectures about pedophilia, slavery, apartheid and witch burning regards B

Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed? How about coerced dowry

2007-12-05 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 07:43:53 + From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] What a simplistic approach; the fact of the matter is that as the imbalance grows, so do activities like sharing one woman among brothers and rape escalating. Is that more acceptable...this is already happening in China I

Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed? How about coerced dowry and greed?

2007-12-04 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Sachin Phadte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am surprised that the moderators have allowed this message of John Monteiro through.The whole thing is conjecture and conjecture. Yes, there has been sati - no one will deny it. Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:24:11 -0800 (PST) From: Santosh Helekar

[Goanet] Sati tradition or greed ?

2007-12-03 Thread Venantius Pinto
) give credence to our public outrage. venantius j pinto From: JOHN MONTEIRO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed ? Sati was originally brought about because there were no such things as a wealthy widows in ancient India. Once the man died (usually of old age

Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed ?

2007-12-03 Thread Sachin Phadte
I am surprised that the moderators have allowed this message of John Monteiro through.The whole thing is conjecture and conjecture.Yes, there has been sati - no one will deny it.However, if we have to talk about sati in terms of Hinduism, then there should be no objection to talk about the

Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed ....... be better informed, thanks to Venantius!

2007-12-03 Thread JOHN MONTEIRO
Yes Venatius, I was not thorough enough in my post. I was responding to another poster who had given his opinion on Sati. I just wanted to comment on it. I am however grateful to you for all the links you have kindly supplied, some of which I have printed off for my eldest daughter (17yrs

Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed ?

2007-12-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Sachin Phadte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am surprised that the moderators have allowed this message of John Monteiro through.The whole thing is conjecture and conjecture.Yes, there has been sati - no one will deny it.However, if we have to talk about sati in terms of Hinduism, then

Re: [Goanet] Sati tradition or greed ?

2007-12-02 Thread JOHN MONTEIRO
Sati was originally brought about because there were no such things as a wealthy widows in ancient India. Once the man died (usually of old age), the widow was invariable expected to sit at the feet of her dead husband and burnt alive. She was so dosed up with alcohol other substances