On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:59:38 -0700, Santosh
Helekar wrote: <<<…BTW, I asked two native English speakers, one
American and one British, to tell me if this discussion has anything to do with
the English language. They categorically stated that it does not. They also
told me that they found no spelli
Now, our knowledgeable doctors are proving their expertise in the political
sciences too. Isn't this a tad unfair? Persons without formal qualifications
in the field of medicine would be dismissed as "quacks" FN
A secessionist movement against a sovereign state is by definition a political
movement. Please read the following paper entitled, "The Political Economy of
Secession" from Oxford University:
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~ball0144/self-det.pdf
All secessionist organizations are therefore political org
On 18 August 2011 04:41, augusto pinto wrote:
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>
> I wonder which side they'd be fighting for if Goa, India declares war
> on the Allied Forces. That is if they haven't been put in sheep pens
> like the Japanese in the U.S. during the Second World War.
>
> Cheers
> Augusto
>
>
>
> Augusto Pinto
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 06:20:13 -0700,
Santosh Helekar wrote:<<>>
COMMENT : There is ocean of difference
between ‘secessionist’ and ‘fanatic terrorist’. HJS is a fanatic terrorist
group who is against their own Hindus who have moved with the times.
Secessionists need not be militant nor violent,
We are fortunate that at least in Goa we do not have a separatist political
party, militating against India, to add to the menace created by the Hindu
nationalist organizations such as Hindu Janajagruti Samiti. Regarding Goa SuRaj
party, hopefully, I will receive an official response from its pr
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Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:45:24 -0400
From: Bosco D
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Subject: Re: [Goanet] What is Independence day
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Dear Bosco,
Probably most of were born post Indepe
Goans are faced with North Korea regime for the past 50 years. How can they
secede if they are brain washed on a daily basis. Allow the truth to be told
and then see the claims for secession.
BC
It would be interesting to know exactly how many Goan Indian citizens
who reside in Goa consider t
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:06:46 -0700, Santosh
Helekar wrote:<<<… It would be interesting to know exactly how many Goan
Indian citizens who
reside in Goa consider themselves
non-Indian, and want to secede from India. My guess is there are not enough to
hold a solitary chicken coop or outhouse in ba
It is only worthwhile to talk about "most" Goans, and the sane ones at that. It
is very likely that most in this case is more than 90%.
>From what I have stated it should be clear that I am talking about ethnicity,
>not nationality. Nationality is established by birth or naturalization,
>irres
Chimbelcho writes, "Most Goans who live in Goa and all other states of
India know that they are and always have been Indians. This is also
true of most Indians who live abroad. This sense of ethnic identity is
very important for the success of any nation. All one has to do to
recognize this is to k
-Original Message-
From: Santosh Helekar
> Most Goans who live in Goa and all other states of India know
> that they are and always have been Indians.
RESPONSE: Nice safety with the adjective "most".
> It is unfortunate that there are a minority of Goans who do not
> regard themselves a
On 16 August 2011 22:43, Antonio Menezes wrote:
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> True, quite true not only for the last 64 years but from the day the INDIAN
> National Congress was formed in the late
> 19th century that people of India started considering themselves to be
> Indians.
>
> While denomination India was very popu
--- On Tue, 8/16/11, Antonio Menezes wrote:
>
> I could be wrong and stand to be corrected, the Indian
> nation was the
> creation of the British empire builders. For
> Shivaji and his descendents it was Maratha empire and for
> the Chitpawan
> brahmins who followed it was Peshwe
> empire but n
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:58:43 -0700, Santosh
Helekar wrote:<<>>
RESPONSE : Very unfortunate indeed that there
are a minority of Goans who do not know the history of Goa and India, beyond
stupid sound bites. Maybe some read Mahabharata as authentic history.
One question. Are Tibetians now all
Santosh Helekar wrote: (Aug 16 ) ''' Most Goans who live in Goa and all
other states of India know that they are
and always been Indians . This is also true of most Indians who live
abroad.'''
True, quite true not only for the last 64 years but from the day the INDIAN
National Congress was fo
Most Goans who live in Goa and all other states of India know that they are and
always have been Indians. This is also true of most Indians who live abroad.
This sense of ethnic identity is very important for the success of any nation.
All one has to do to recognize this is to know citizens of o
Sorry ich bin ein Goan first.
BC
Our National
sentiment must be above narrow parochial outlook. we are Indians
first and not the other way around
On 15 August 2011 15:46, Nelson Lopes
wrote:
> what is Independence day
>
>
we are Indians
> first and not the other way around
> Nelson Lopes Chinchinim 9850926276
>
COMMENT : What is ‘INDIA’ and what are
“INDIANS”??
When the British came to the
sub-continent, there was no ‘India
On 15 August 2011 15:46, Nelson Lopes wrote:
> what is Independence day
>
> we are Indians
> first and not the other way around
> Nelson Lopes Chinchinim 9850926276
>
RESPONSE: Aree baba once again. Most Goans in Goa and probably the
majority of Goans overseas see themselves as Goans first a
what is Independence day
A reader has objected to my forward to goanet on the issue as why it
is accepted on this forum The right to dissent and and the right to
express are equal The reasons as to why it should not have been put
forth could have been be educative Objections per se are not
appreci
I am not to sure why this topic is being discussed on Goanet. Goa has nothing
to do with 1947 but the bad events of 61.
BC
What is independence Day
Thousands of Indians will go to bed without a single meal Those little
street children and vagabonds will not understand the significance of
the day
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