Re: [Goanet] The state of US capitalism and Ayurveda medicine

2009-06-09 Thread Mervyn Lobo

marlon menezes wrote:
 The problem with the US system is definitely not because 
 it is underfunded. Quite the contrary, the US spends a far 
 larger share of its GNP on health care than Canada. For a 
 variety of reasons, US health care is just too expensive for 
 the return one gets.

 Furthermore, no budgetary allowances were made on how 
 to pay for this by its beneficiaries, or by the government in 
 general. This means that US society will not just be paying 
 for Mario's health care now, but also after he is long gone. 




Marlon,
I think the above is grossly unfair. You cannot compare a 
system like Canada's with a system that needs borrowed
funds to operate. 


US journalist have realized this issue and are now 
comparing the bankrupt US capitalist system verses that of 
equally bankrupt Tanzania.
 
 
A child born in the US today gets saddled with a $30,000
debt, compliments of George Bush (43). Hussein and Co
are continuing the drunken spending spree of their
predecessors.
 

Here is a link to a June article that gives some indication of 
the bankruptcy and the similarities/comparisons that the US 
and Tanzanian capitalist face.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200906/bankrupcy
 
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[Goanet] A letter to the Herald

2009-06-09 Thread Nigel Britto
I have just read Goa Home Minister Ravi Naik’s outrageous statements about
tourists visiting Goa. I must say that it is a wonder that Goa has any
tourism business left after the way we tourists are treated, and this even
before Mr Naik’s insulting outburst!
It is about time the Goan people looked at their government and questioned
what they really do with the tourist income they receive. Year upon year
promises are made and those promises are broken (River Princess, garbage,
etc).
I have been visiting Goa for the past 10 years and stayed at various
‘upmarket’ hotels, and all I have seen during that time is Goa slowly
sliding downhill in infrastructure , honesty and quality. We hear how Goa
wants ‘upmarket’ tourists. Well, I have some bad news for you, Goa – you are
not an upmarket destination and with the worldwide recession Mr Naik’s
remarks will not enhance your reputation in the slightest!
I for one will not be visiting your shores again. My money will be spent in
destinations that are truly upmarket and really do welcome the tourist with
open arms.
PS: I have just read Churchill Alemao’s statement proclaiming that “Goa
doesn’t need any more tourists”. Well said, Mr Alemao, as Goa cannot even
look after the tourists she gets now!

- *Simon Cowell, London*

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[Goanet] Green Gioenkars accept builder's awards 2009

2009-06-09 Thread soter

Green Goenkars accept Big Builder's Awards 2009

If you are an activist deeply concerned and struggling against mega projects 
and mining that is destroying your village, here is extremely good news that 
your leaders have absolutely no reservations in receiving goodies from the 
construction industry. These comments must be interpreted in the backdrop of a 
recent statement made by out-going GCCI Chief Nitin Kunkolienkar, some time 
ago, claiming that opposing developmental projects has become a fashion among 
activists in Goa and that it (GCCI) would also launch a counter offensive. 
Thereafter, it is learnt that selected  NGO heads in Goa have started recieving 
invitations from CCI for programs and dinners. 
Now, it is in the news that noted environmentalist Mr. Rajendra Kerkar had 
absolutely no scruples in accepting the Gera Big Goenkar 2009 of Big FM which 
has been sponsored by Pune based Gera Constructions Pvt. Ltd known for its 
galaxy of mega projects lined up in the State of Goa. The news says that though 
Rajendra Kerkar could not make it to the award ceremony because of the heavy 
rainfall, the award was received on his behalf by another environmentalist 
Nirmal Kulkarni who again had absolutely no scruples because he perhaps is only 
concerned about the wildlife ecology which probably has nothing to do with mega 
projects. Proudly displaying his Gera Concerned Citizen Award to the cameras 
was also another proclaimed historian of Goa, Mr. Prajal Sakardande, because 
perhaps mega projects do not affect his particular obsession with restoring the 
heritage dynasty at Old Goa. 
The question is whether, as an activist voicing concern over the destruction to 
Goa's environment by the mining and construction industry, it is ethical to 
receive such an award from a construction firm which is known for an activity 
just contrary to the desires of several goans struggling against such projects? 
While ethics for doctors and journalists gets discussed in public, the point is 
whether there exists any code of ethics for environmental and rights activists 
in Goa?  
Some time ago, pop star Remo Fernandes refused an award from the Goa government 
and so did fashion designer Wendell Rodricks protest in his own way by not 
accepting an invitation to an event organised by the Times group for a real 
estate show, just to make a point where it mattered the most.  These are no 
activists but professionals that sometimes have to brush with the political 
establishment and corporate industry, but yet dare to stick their necks out now 
and then in support of people struggling to save Goa. 
It is yet another sad day for activism in Goa, as this is not just one isolated 
incident known in the history of Goa's environmental activism. This is 
supposedly a case of how some activists stand on the shoulders of unsuspecting 
masses and potray themselves as champions of people's movements only to be 
approapriated by the system.  Shame! Shame!

-Soter D'Souza


Re: [Goanet] The state of US capitalism and Ayurveda medicine

2009-06-09 Thread Bosco D'Mello
-Original Message-
From: Mario Goveia

 Mario wrote:

 To the rest of Goanet, Bosco, who lives in Canada, as does Mervyn, says the 
 information I posted from 2-0-0-6 is outdated and tries to ridicule me for 
 posting it!!  Well, I just chose that one article from a plethora of sources 
 on 
 the wonders of the Canadian health care system and thus unintentionally 
 provided 
 Bosco with the bait to embarrass himself:-))

 To be fair to myself, I DID say the FREE Canadian health care system works 
 great 
 for hang nails, and probably for coughs and colds and other simple procedures 
 that 
 are non-life-threatening as well.

 I wonder if information from March 26, 2009 written by serious Canadians who 
 actually study these things as compared with the supposed ad hoc views of 
 friends 
 and relatives, will make a better impression on Bosco, or will he resort to 
 demonizing the messenger again.

 http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS107447+26-Mar-2009+PRN20090326

 Hey, Bosco, I wonder if Nadeem Esmail is as greedy as Dr. Brian Day:-))


RESPONSE: 'Serious Canadians'!!! There is no such thing 'Study'?? This is 
not a 
replicate of the Cato Institute, ok!!!

The 'respected' Fraser Institute is a right-leaning, conservative think-tank 
and 
registered charity. It is a promoter of greater private sector involvement in 
the 
delivery of healthcare insurance and services [1] aka US-style of delivery of 
medicare. Naturally, it is opposed to the Canada Health Act and the 
government's 
role in delivering healthcare. Is it any surprise it generates reports saying 
the 
sky is falling down on the Canadian Health System??

The 'respected' Fraser Institute has a luminous list of staffers. Among them 
Mike 
Harris, former Conservative Premier of Ontario, famous for ravaging the 
health-system in the province of Ontario during his two-terms in office in the 
90s. 
Another infamous staffer is Preston Manning, founder of the far-right Reform 
Party 
of Canada (1987 - 2000) [2]. Canada's current PM, Harper is a key-player from 
those 
early Reform Party days.

Nadeem Esmail is employed by the Fraser Institute. He is Director, Health 
System 
Performance Studies. He is employed by a conservative think-tank that opposes 
the 
government's role in delivering healthcare.

Dr Brian Day, is the former president of the Canadian Medical Association. He 
is an 
advocate for privatizing health care. [3]

Having said that, no report or interview of any hot-shot is going to take away 
from 
a first-hand experience that Mervyn describes himself. I can relate to several 
cases 
of severely ill friends who received timely care and made complete recoveries 
from 
serious illnesses. On the flip-side the Canadian Health System is not perfect 
and 
not consistent across the country. Health is a provincial portfolio.

The 'respected' Fraser Institute also generates another annual report - school 
report cards and ranking of schools in Ontario. Yes, I too notice the 
institute's 
obsession with Ontario. Need I add, the institute promotes private schooling 
over 
tax-payer/public-funded school boards.

Good luck with your cut-and-paste jobs!! Glad it keeps you busy..:-))
Nevertheless, can you take this thread back to its origins? More than unlikely, 
but 
do prove me wrong!! Do you feel demonized, again??? Tch-tch-tch.:-))

- Bosco



Sources:

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraser_Institute

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_Party_of_Canada

[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Day




[Goanet] Ahlan wa Sahlan in Kahin Na Kahin Milenge

2009-06-09 Thread gaspersWorld

 
:::Bollywood musical score for Kuwait made Hindi film::: 
Kahin Na Kahin Milenge to be premiered on 12th June at Laila Gallery, Kuwait
:::By Gasper Crasto:::
 
Kuwait: There are thousands of musicians out there who have composed musical
pieces in our films that anyone would love to hear over and over again. No
matter how many times you keep listening to this music, you are not going to
get bored. 
 
It’s just amazing how music can totally take us to a different world
especially when it is synchronized to the images of a motion picture. 
 
As the countdown begins for the premiere Kahin Na Kahin Milenge, we present
Music Director Nikhil to our readers. 
 
The film produced by T-Bush, co-produced by Wency John Ferrao, and directed
by T-Bush and Arif Kazi is the first Hindi Bollywood Film to be made in
Kuwait. The premiere of the movie will be held on 12th June 6.30pm at Laila
Gallery Cinamascape, Salmiya.
 
His Excellency, Mr. Ajai Malhotra, Indian ambassador to Kuwait will be the
chief guest at the premiere. The star cast of the film Kiran Kumar, Shakti
Kapoor, Kishore Bhanushali, Manisha Ram Kelkar, Amit Bhanushali, etc, are
expected to attend.
 
The credit for the musical score of Kahin Na Kahin Milenge and it’s
soundtracks goes to the young musician Nikhil from the Bollywood industry.
 
The director, having a background of Western Classical, has been around for
almost 2 decades now. 
 
Nikhil got his first break in the film ‘Pyar Bhara Dil’ whose song ‘Banke
Kitab Teri’ was quite popular. His journey had started since then, and there
was no looking back. 
 
The music director has been very good at composing hit songs for new singers
 His superhit numbers include ‘Achha Sila Diya Tune’ by Sonu Nigam,
‘Shukriya Shukriya’ by Agam Nigam, ‘Meri Pant Bhi Sexy’ for Govinda to name
a few.
 
Nikhil has composed for films like ‘Bewafa Sanam’ which launched Sonu Nigam
as a playback singer. The flowing director has now composed for over 50
Bollywood films, 100 private albums, regional films and T V Serials. He is a
versatile music artist and very passionate about composing music. He had the
privilege to compose for super star Shah Rukh Khan in three films ‘Yeh Lamhe
Judaai Ke’, English Babu Desi Mem’, and ‘Hum Tumhare Hai Sanam’.
 
Nikhil has also done compositions for popular serials like ‘Teacher’, ‘Thoda
Hai Thode Ki Zaroorat Hai’, ‘Ajeeb Dastan’ and ‘Heri Pheri’. His talent got
to the top of the charts with Sonu Nigam s popular album ‘Jaan’. The album’s
popularity displays a distinct Nikhil style of music. His next album Yaad
with Sonu Nigam was not much of a success except for a few scores. The
maestro has been doing pop albums with Abhijeet and Anuradha Paudwal as well
 
 
Nikhil has composed jingles and background scores of various ad films, some
being anti piracy, anti-smoking, and various government campaigns. He also
composed Award Track music for Zee Lux Gold Awards Nite, Zee Sangeet Awards,
and Apsara Awards Nite.
 
Nikhil received various platinum discs and trophies for outstanding sales of
his film scores and albums (earlier with Vinay), from many music companies. 
 
Nikhil is contented that people appreciate his music. He is happy that
somewhere down the line, he is getting that recognition. 
 
The renowned Bollywood entertainer has composed music for a especially
penned song, ‘Ahlan wa Salhan’ in Kahin Na Kahin Milenge. 
 
 
:::Related News at:::
www.indiansinkuwait.com/  
www.mangalorean.com/  

:::Other Links::: 
Ahlan wa salhan - a short story - http://gaspersworld.blogspot.com/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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2009-06-09 Thread Francis Rodrigues

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[Goanet] Torches in the Fields at Night

2009-06-09 Thread Elvino Rodriques
Hi Freddy, Jim,

You both seem to be missing the real point for banning the killing of Frogs.  
People now are educated they understand lot many things, natural and scientific 
reasons for the disaster in our present lives where in lot of sickness and 
diseases are reigning.   Malaria takes millions and millions of people too.  
With education and researches they found out an easy way to save life at least 
of few millions if not in its entirety if they save the Frog that voraciously 
consumes larva of Mosquitoes, the very same mosquito that is responsible for 
millions of deaths through Malaria.  And in Goa, this is necessary too for the 
same reasons.  Why not go easy way to save the life. One loose nothing if one 
just ignore killing the Frog and let it live, because if it does live it can 
really save many many lives from the killer disease like Malaria.  Any other 
reason for saving the Frog is a different issue.

God bless you.
Elvino

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Jim you are very much right, who really gives a rat's ass about humans, wild 
life is more important than humans



The Bollywood actor Salman Khan was put behind bars for killing a black buck 
but does any know what happened to the people he ran over in his Land Cruiser ? 
What does our police and the Authorities do when the rich are involved in 
accidents and the poor are the victims ? Is any action taken against them ? 
Icons like Pataudi are pulled to court for killing an animal, what does our 
government do to protect the people who die of cold and hunger in Delhi and up 
north during
winter?



Killing tigers and other endangered species are dealt with severely but mass 
murderers Narender Modi are left free to prey on minorities, the saffron 
brigade can kill Christians at will in the name of conversion and get away with 
it too but thou shall not kill an animal or even a frog, are we what we claim 
to be ?



I am basically not fussy about food, I just eat anything that is laid on my 
table, doesn't matter whether it's spicy, bitter, sour or sweet as long as I 
can digest it, no problems but given the choice, fish curry any time any where. 
With tourism flourishing in Goa and the number of hotels ever increasing food 
items are become very expensive and unaffordable for the common man. Fish 
cannot be regular item on our menu, red meat (beef, mutton  pork) are 
expensive as well and bad for people with cholesterol and uric acid, chicken 
too is mostly for occasions and eggs are bad for cholesterol , which do tend to 
disappear from counters when ever, bird flu makes it's round, that leaves us 
with vegetables which too are become expensive so what do we eat  ? Has anyone 
noticed the steep rise in prices of fruits in Goa ?  With the advent of rainy 
season nature had provided us with a cheaper substitute in frog and that too is 
banned, and with the ban enforced the prices of frogs too have skyrocketed so 
what does the common man eat ? Don't tell we'll have to go the Oriental way of 
eating worms and reptiles (who knows that too could be banned)  .



I appreciate what Clinton Vaz is doing to save wild life but we should all do a 
lot more for humans first because that God's and natures prized creation  It 
should always be Man before Animal



Freddy Agnelo Fernandes


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[Goanet] True colours of Education Minister

2009-06-09 Thread shri8131

Little Lambs Primary School at Band, St-Paul Road, In Alfonso Residency, 
Taleigao received blunt of Education Minister. 

I have blocked your activity this are privatly(in public) used words by 
Education Minister pointing towards trustees of Little Lamb School on Sunday 
May 31. 

I knew Maria for last few years. She was searching for property for her school. 
She had narrated few stories to me. Every time just before finalizing the deal 
how it got cancelled due to pressure from unknown quarters.

 “Goikars should not buy the property in Taleigao.” Taleigaocars Diktat

On todays (June 9) Lokmat I read this story 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14948...@n02/3609069911/sizes/o/

In the Education Ministers Constituency, 300 children are out of school on 
first day of Academic Year. 

New building which is ready did not get permission on grounds :safety of 
children .

School could not reopen as everything from old premises were shifted to newly 
constructed building. 

“I came to know of this matter now, will look in the matter and clear the 
thinks in few days.” Dy director Education Shri Anil Powar.

Maria, Back bone of Little Lamb School, says that approval to new school 
premises was signed but was not posted by Education Dept. to school in Feb due 
to code of conduct (election). She is waiting for that letter. 

I gave away charge of old rented premises as our new building was ready. 

No school on first day
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa/No-school-on-first-day/articleshow/4633270.cms

Shrikant Vinayak Barve

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[Goanet] POLICE2, poilea bhaga poros odik boro asa: GULAB

2009-06-09 Thread Goa World

POLICE II
 
Comedian Agostinho hacho POLICE II hea tiatrachi kanni, sonvad tosoch vinod 
poilea bhaga poros odik boro asa. Police tiatracho poilo bhag sompta thoim ho 
dusro bhag suru zata. Kanni ghoddi-moddimni vinnlea ani fuddem fuddem kitem 
ghoddot te xivim mon osvosth zait veta. Poilea bhaga porim pulisanchim borim 
toxim vaitt kortubam dakhovpancho yotn kela. GULAB, June 2009 pan 55
 
Comedian Agostinho-n boroun digdorxit kelolo tiatr POLICE2 Junache 19ver 2009 
justuch sanjechea 3:30 vorar Hawally A/C Shobaghorant machier haddtole.
 
Tiatrak songit ditat AGLENO DIAS ani NORMAN CARDOZO. Machie kharbari MARIO 
FERNANDES.
 
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[Goanet] Leopard Attack At Khola - Canacona

2009-06-09 Thread Freddy Fernandes
Leopard Attack At Khola - Canacona

 

The news papers today have brought the news of a leopard's attack on a women at
Khola, which is once again, a reminder for all of us not to mess with the
natural habitat of the wild life. One has to give full credit to the lady for
her bravery and courage. This incident reminds me of my own encounter with a
leopard last summer. 

 

Our villagers were agitating against the restarting of an abundant mine in our
village last May (2008), during one of those days I was late coming home, around
9 PM, as usual I put my towel on my shoulders, shorts and soap in one hand and a
more than a foot long megalight torch in the other and set out to the spring for
my refreshing spring water bath. When I reached the spring there was no one
around, mostly you find some one or the other, finding the spring to myself I
thought of having a deep in the sea which was just a few steps away through
rocks. I must have spent about 15 minutes in the sea, and then came back to the
spring, and started splashing the fresh water all over my body, that gave me a
wonderful refreshing feeling, then started soap application on the body, I had
nearly finished with soaping, when suddenly I heard the sound of some one coming
down the slope of the hillock, at the side of the spring, which was full of
shrubs and bushes, at first I thought that one of the villagers who had gone
fishing, was coming down to the spring, but the noise and movement suddenly
ceased, no one came down, and I had a funny feeling at the back of my neck, I
couldn't open my eyes, as my face was full of soap, so I threw some water till
my vision was clear and went for the torch and focused it on the position from
where the sound had come and to my utter disbelief, there on a small rock about
30 feet uphill from where I was standing was a leopard glaring at me,  it was
more than 2ft in height and over a meter in length, I went blank, I wanted to
growl and scream to frighten the beast away but no sound came out of my mouth,
then I realized that cats were scared of water, so my best option was to go back
into the sea but for that, I would have to turn my back and walk through rock
and it would be a good couple of minutes which would not be good enough if the
leopard wanted to jump onto me, so what do I do, I do pray a lot but no prayer
would come to my mouth, normally nothing ever scares me, ghosts, man nor beast,
I had crossed paths with tigers and leopards a good many times in the past but
never this close and on all other occasions I either had a knife, koita or a gun
in my hand, but here I was defenseless and out of my wits, with just my
underwear and a torch, both glaring at each other, couple of minutes passed but
looked like eternity and finally I had some courage and growled (bu) as
loud as I could and at the same time picked a big stone and hurled it in the
leopards direction, that surely must have made it  loose it's appetite for the
white frothy hairy creature (me with soap), it suddenly turned back and
disappeared into the bushed, first thing was I wanted to pee but I dared not
take my eyes of the spot the animal had disappeared, after a couple of seconds I
had realized I had stopped breathing and was gasping for breath, It was than
that I realized that the leopard was thirsty and may have come for a drink, I
could feel the hair on my back standing stiff,  I just poured some water over my
body, wiped myself and made my way home as fast as I could, went straight to the
liquor cabinet poured  a good shot of dudshri from the first bottle I could lay
my hand on and did a bottoms up, just then my wife came out of the kitchen and
looked amused and said did you see a ghost or something, I must have been a
sight, it was only after the rosary that I narrated my narrow escape.  All my
three daughter were at home and you bet they were as frightened as I was. 

 

During my holidays this time I made sure I was in early to the spring for my
refreshing bath, or just had a shower at home if I was late, did not want a
stand off with the leopard again. This is just one stray incident. In our
village dogs are kept indoors at night because of prowling leopards and tigers,
if a dog is left out you'll not find it the next morning, so far no humans have
been attacked in our village, this is the first instance I have heard that a
leopard has attacked a human in the vicinity of our village and hope it's the
last.

 

Now getting back to the problem, Khola was 90 % forest area, but over the years
trees have disappeared rapidly, like the receding hairline of most of us in the
Gulf.  At present not much cummuldade land is left in Khola, it's been
encroached on or sold to outsiders by the Prabu Dessai's of Khola, who think
that the cummuldade land is their own property. The politicians and the district
level Authorities have been involved in these scams, thanks to one Mr. Floriano
Fernandes, from Cabo-de-Rama, the Cabo-de-Rama, plateau has been 

Re: [Goanet] Torches in the Fields at Night

2009-06-09 Thread Jim Fernandes
I am NOT convinced that frog population in Goa reached so low that it's now 
threatening their existence. Any animal that has a capacity to lay thousands of 
eggs in a single season, cannot be in danger. Period.

I do support the concept of conservation of wild life - but not frogs.

In Earth's past history, millions of animals came and went extinct. But the 
animal world still survived even though it must have disrupted their food 
chain. For example, the Dinosaurs came and went. That gave a perfect 
opportunity for mammals to take charge - and then to eventually give rise to 
mankind. If Dinoaaurs were to still survive, you and I wouldn't be here 
discussing about the frogs.

Jim F.
New York.

  
-- Original message --
From: Blasio Fernandes blasio.fernan...@emirates.com

 Jim / Valley,
 
 I too was of a similar opinion during my teenage days. Frogs are
 seasonal.. so make the most while they are available in the fields. Why
 bother about frogs where humans are being neglected? These are a couple
 of my many thoughts too. But later realised that I was combining
 different issues together which actually needs to be dealt separately.
 
 We ought to know that every animal that exists / created has a definite
 role and purpose in sustaining the ecosystem. When the balance gets
...
...






Re: [Goanet] Why can’t we celebrate OLA .... .. ?

2009-06-09 Thread Sebastian Borges

Dear friends,

To begin with, let me clear the cobwebs that clutter this issue.  The bone of 
contention is the Official language Act (OLA) passed in 1987.  It stipulates 
that whenever Konkani is used for the official purposes, specifically notified 
from time to time, the script shall be Devanagari.  The only official purpose 
that has been notified till date is correspondence with Government departments. 
 There are two contending parties in this issue.  One (let us call it 'group 
A') demands that the OLA be reopened for amendment to add Roman script to 
Devanagari, *_and damn the consequences._*  The other party ('group B') opposes 
this demand, terming it unnecessary, ill-conceived and fraught with dangerous 
consequences.  The controversy began six years ago in the Konkani (Roman 
script) monthly GULAB.  It then spilled onto the internet and thence to English 
print media.  It continues sporadically in the latter two.
In support of its demand, group A adduces its grievances based on events, 
incidents and happenings, and draws inferences thereon  which place all the  
ills at the door of the OLA.  Group B counters those, proving the falsity of 
the grievances and the mixing up of the chronology of events leading to 
erroneous inferences.Group A calls itself protagonists of Roman script or 
pro-Romi in short.  (Incidentally, 'Romi' means 'Roman script' in Konkani.)  
In contrast, group B is dubbed anti-Romi.An English daily, whose 
management (original as well as current) wants Marathi also to be declared the 
Official language, has given group B the title 'Devanagri lobby.'  
It should be clear, therefore, that 'pro-Romi group' means 'those favouring the 
proposed amendment,' and 'anti-Romi group' means those opposing the same.   
However, over the years, the term 'anti-Romi' has been twisted to its literal 
meaning i.e. those opposed to Konkani literature in Roman script.  This is in 
spite of the fact that many in this group are actively involved in the 
promotion of Konkani literature in Roman script whereas some of the stalwarts 
of group A are using the movement to feather their own nest and to enjoy what 
their own comrades call 'lollipops.'  It should be clearly understood that 
neither is group A opposed to Konkani literature in Devanagari script nor is 
group B opposed to Konkani literature in Roman script; the two can certainly 
continue to prosper – celebrate diversity –  even with the OLA as it exists 
today.  Clearly, the point of dispute is reopening the OLA for amendment.
Having said that, let me deal with the points raised by my friend Valmiki 
Faleiro (Why can't we... 31 May).   He has chosen to restate his attitude 
towards the Devanagari script, something I had not contested (but am forced to 
do so now).  What he has written about another friend, Professor (Dr.) Olivinho 
Gomes is entirely true; I doubt anyone can have doubts about that.  But a 
seeker after truth has the right to question even his guru with a view to clear 
his own doubts.  I have followed this principle as a student and encouraged the 
same as a teacher; such an approach is beneficial to both the teacher and the 
taught.  From my experience, I can say with conviction that inquisitive, not 
passive, pupils produce a thorough teacher.  Pupils who unquestioningly accept 
what the teacher dishes out gain only information, not wisdom.  'Difficult' 
questions have  often led me to explore facets of my subject which I might 
never have thought of.   A public debate
 is not a competition to score brownie points but a medium to enlighten the 
audience on the issue being debated.  My most heated academic arguments have 
been with friends; forget discussing with enemies (of whom, fortunately, I have 
very few), I do not even look at their faces.
I find that Valmiki concedes the facts that writing / reading Konkani in Roman 
script is not banned nor is Konkani correspondence in Roman script censored by 
the Government.  But he goes on to answer in the affirmative my question about 
people being forced to write Konkani in Devanagari, adding that this is done at 
primary school level.  Here I find that Valmiki is not clear in his thinking or 
is trying to eat his cake and keep it as well.  For, in contrast, he urges all 
Goan parents to encourage their children to master the Devanagari script in 
order to stay competitive in the job market of the country.  Secondly, has 
this ‘compulsion’ arisen as a result of OLA (1987)?  Did school children write 
Konkani in Roman script prior to that date?   Konkani in Devanagari script has 
been taught in Goan primary schools since 1962.  And a majority of those were 
Archdiocesan schools.   Did the Government force the script on these schools?  
Let alone the
 script, *_the Government of the day had nothing to do even with the 
introduction of Konkani language whether in primary school or as the third 
language at the secondary level._*  And *_the first batch of M.A.s in 

[Goanet] How to read/interpret ‘Obituary ’ ads

2009-06-09 Thread JoeGoaUk

How to read/interpret  ‘Obituary’ ads 

Well, the other day I was at my friends place.

One woman said to my friend’s brother (Roy) who is around 37.

‘Tum azunui kazar zaunk na mista’ (I think you are not married yet).

‘Why, why, what made you say that?’ Roy responded nervously.

‘Sorry, I assumed you are a bachelor because you Mother’s obituary 
ad mentioned  the names of all sons and daughters along with  
their spouses except your name (which was on it’s own).’

Fyi (Readers), Roy is infact still a bachelor.

Ok, let us see what else one can find out about the deceased and 
their immediate family members from a typical obituary ad 
(ad announcing death and funeral).

 

In any obituary ad, there are 3 main parts:

The details of the deceased (Full name, date of birth etc).
Family details such as father/mother/spouse /brothers/sisters/inlaws etc.
Funeral details such as church, burial, time and place.
Optional: Nature of death whether died peacefully or under tragic circumstances 
etc

 

Let’s take a few examples of  typical obituary ads (death/funeral announcement):

 

I

DEATH

(Space for Photo)

Born: 10.10.1947 Died 8/6/2009

Joao Piedade  Inacio Loyola Pinhero

Agassaim-Mercurim

Son of late Agustin and late Rosalina, beloved husband of Jenny. 
Loving father of Johny, Jacob.  Brother/brother-in-law of 
Caitan/Ana Maria, Pedro Francis/Maia Ana (UK) Ermelina/Dioginho (Canada) 
 Magdalena/Jose Luis (Kuwait)

Expired  peacefully on  8th June 2009.

Funeral cortège will leave his residence 10th June (Tomorrow) at 11 am 
to St. Lawrence Church for Eucharistic Celebration followed by burial.

Relatives and friends kindly accept this as the only intimation

II

LORD I AM COMING HOME

(Foto)

Conceicao Maria Magdalena Fernandes e Figueredo

(Cansaulim-Arossim)

Born: 26/9/26  Died 7/6/09

Relict of Caintan Filipe Figueredo. Loving mother/mother-in-law of 
Jose Francis/Carmelina, Roque Santan/Laxmi and  Maria Feliz.

Sister/Sister-in-law of Rafael/Maggie, Luiza/Agnelo, Braz/Sandra, 
Mathias/Sumitilda, Eularia/Isidor, Ritina/Ansussao, Adelin/Inacio 
and Trindade/Paskina

Expired after a brief illness.

Funeral cortege will leave  her residence TODAY 3pm  to St. Thomas 
Church for mass and burial.

Relatives and friends kindly accept this as the only intimation

 

III

DEATH

(Foto)

Antonio Marcus Vaz

(Provorim D Colony)

Born: 12.12.81 Died 5/6/09

Beloved son of  Melitao and late Leucadia, brother/brother-in-law 
of Louis/Agnes, Rosita/Kulvinder and Bosco.

Expired under tragic circumstances on 5/6/09.

There will be a prayer services at the residence ‘Santa Monica Apartments’ 
followed by burial near College, Mapusa. TODAY at 3pm.

Friends and relatives kindly accept this as only intimation.



Now, let us see how once can read and interpret each of the above examples.

I

Going thru the ad, one will the following:

- Joao Piedade was 62, Agassaim, Married

- Has wife and children

- Both parents expired

- Both sons not married yet?

- All brothers/sisters married, settled in Uk, Canada, Kuwait

- Died peacefully or after a brief illness (died of cancer, AIDS, stroke etc)

 

II

- Coinsao Marie aged 86 from Cansaulim

- Husband died first

- Has two sons (both married but one married to non-Christian or Hindu) and a 
daughter (Spinster?)

- 9 in  all - Has 4 brothers and 4 sisters, all married

 

III

- Antonio Marcus, 28, unmarried and from Porvorim

- Has father (mother died)

- Has two brothers one is bachelor

- Has one sister, married to a non-christian or sikh

- Died in an accident (may be road accident, drowning, murdered, suicide etc)

- Why there is no mention of Church? It is assumed that the family belonging to 
a certain religious sect 

 

Now, some of you may wish to know how I would like my own obituary ad?

Will it be..

(these are some of the actual one liners seen in the ad)

 

Death ? or

Retun to the Lord? or

Lord I am coming home

United with the Lord

Lord I am coming to heavenly abode

Gone to the Lord

Lord, here I come

Returned back to the Lord

Gone to His Eternal abode

Moved Residence to the Lord’s Home

Born to Eternal life

Lord You called me, here I am

 

No, none of the above.

Infact, mine will be simple and in my own mother tongue.

(A draft already kept ready only thing they will have to insert the dates).

 

It’s going to be like this..


DEVAN DILEM ANI DEVANUCH VELEM

(Foto)

JoeGoaUk (real name comes here)

Zolmolo: 10/10/1947  Ontorlo: (date of Expiry to be inserted here)

Put (Maimcho and Paicho – real names of parents come here)

Bapui (dogam putamcho – Two sons’ name come here)

 (Wife name not to come here or else readers will find out I was married to 
non-Goan)

Vigorz/Ximiter: (Probably Moira or Aldona, as we are likely to move there soon. 
Fyi, we change residence every two years)

 

IXTTANK, SOIRE-DAIRIEANK HI EKUCH KOLLOVNNIM

(Strictly, no one will be intimated individually)
==
 

Besides, following are some of the instructions 

Re: [Goanet] Daily Grook #431

2009-06-09 Thread Alfred de Tavares

Dear AuntPont...

 

I consider this one among your higher carat gems...

 

Chacha...
 
 From: fcarodrig...@hotmail.com
 To: goa...@goanet.org
 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 04:55:42 +
 Subject: [Goanet] Daily Grook #431
 
 
 DAILY GROOK #431
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 it made her seem
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 hey...read between the lines!
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Re: [Goanet] Weather forecasting in North America

2009-06-09 Thread Alfred de Tavares

Arre...Ali...baba!

 

Whatever, then, went wrong in New Orleans???

 

Was the build-up of Kotrin too miniscule to disturb

those US of A's mega-accurate weather-sensors???

 

Alfred de T.

 


 
 Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:28:58 -0400
 From: mikeal...@aol.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] Weather forecasting in North America
 
 Dear all,
 
 Here in New York weather forecasting is extremely accurate right up to the 
 hour. If the weather-guy says it will rain by noon...then it does rain by 
 noon. There is even a 24 hour weather channel here ( 
 www.weatherchannel.com).
 
 In the US, like Canada most people start the day by listening to the weather 
 guy as it determines how you dress and also if you need to take that 
 umbrella with you. We rarely did this in Asia.
 
 regards,
 
 Mike 
 

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[Goanet] Environment Day 2009 in Shirgao, Bicholim

2009-06-09 Thread sebastian Rodrigues

He is 90 years old. His name is Gopal Gaonkar. With stick in his hand he 
climbed steps of Laree Temple in his village of Shirgao. Yet this time there 
was no village temple festival. It was on 5th June 2009 that people from 
various parts of Goa assembled in this temple to observe World Environment Day. 
The reason why around 150 odd assembly of people was in session in Shirgao 
temple was because the open cast iron ore industry has sounded death knell to 
the Shirgao village and several other villages in Goa. On that day people 
coming from far and wide shared lunch with Shirgao villagers and so exchanged 
thoughts on how mining has led to all-round destruction of their villages – 
water sources, agriculture and forest amongst the most important things. The 
day's theme - WATER depletion due to open cast iron ore indusry.
 
Gopal recalled that mining in Shirgao started in the same year that British 
left India – 1947. Independent was ushering in the country and dependence was 
beginning in Shirgao village. Shirgao village was in Goa that had different 
colonial masters – Portuguese. Gopal recalls “First it was bullock carts that 
transported the ore from our village, then came the truck and soon barges 
followed in the rivers.”
 
We did get employment and also some money then. And some in the village still 
get it now. But if this mining intensity continues then we won’t be able to 
leave at all in the village. Our village is totally destroyed. We cannot 
cultivate our paddy any more. Mining has destroyed our water.”
Gopal was speaking soon after songs of protests sang by everyone present with 
RSD veteral from Goa Devendra Khanolkar in the lead, and Laree temple priest 
offering special prayer to the deity for rescue of village from the clutches of 
mining companies.
 
Then there was Gajanand Gaonkar, former village Sarpanch stepped on to speak 
up, “Mining companies has adopted the policies of divide and rule in the 
village”. He further questioned Goa Pollution Control Board for not playing 
pro-active role in tackling pollution created by mining companies in Goa.
Dr. Claude Alvares of Goa Foundation explained that Nagpur based National 
Environmental Engineering Research Institute has clearly reported to Goa Bench 
of Bombay High Court that Shirgao water bodies has dried up due to mining 
activities. He said the village was traditionally dependent upon the well water 
and it has been disrupted due to mining activities.
 
Shirgao has Dempos, Chowgules and Bandekar mining companies in operation that 
has made huge profits at the expense of Shirgao water bodies, agriculture and 
soil. D. Gaonkar then gave the startling statistics: 72 wells of village dried 
up. 5 springs of village dried up. 5 lakes of village dried up. All dried up 
because of mining.
 
Harischandra Bhise was part of the group that is battling mining industry 
across Goa’s border in the North – Kalne village. He categorically stated that 
State government has decided to sell out Sindadurg district of Maharastra to 
mining companies. He pointed out that happiness and health is dependent upon 
nature and State has decided to finish People’s happiness. He observed that 
Kalne village does not have problem of unemployment and there is no need of 
mining to generate employment. Bhise identified Rich, State and Political 
Leaders operating in close connivance with each other to foster anti people 
agenda of the mining companies. Bhise further narrated incidents of Police 
repression on false cases of murder filed against Kalne villagers. He said 16 
people were arrested and 12 of which are bailed out while 4 are still in 
prison. He said villagers Satygraha in the village temple of Mauli deity 
continues for the past couple of months. He was supported by Ulhas Porob from 
his Kalne village.
 
Milagrina Antao from Colamb, Sanguem then shared about her village struggle 
against the mining companies for the past 3 years. She called upon every one to 
fight for the sake of Children. She also highlighted constant police repression 
against Colamb people to benefit mining companies. She said this year for the 
first time tankers have started supplying water to the Colamb village and water 
has started depleting deeper. She also disclose that there are attempts to bury 
their paddy fields by landlord to benefit mining companies. She called for 
fearless struggle against mining companies in Goa.
Rama Velip also from Colamb shared about threat to wildlife due to mining in 
the forest areas. He shared the example of Bison falling in the well while 
drinking water and dying. He said because natural springs in the forest have 
dried up due to mining wild animals are forced to search water in the village 
wells. He said medicinal plants are also threatened due to mining. He demanded 
that mines in Goa be closed down.
 
Devidas Gaonkar from Khotigao pointed out that mining companies are indulging 
in the abuse of money power and State power. He observed 

Re: [Goanet] Side-Effects of Blood Pressure Meds, Side-Effects of Hypertension Drugs as Fat Fertilizer

2009-06-09 Thread Santosh Helekar

Please do not trust the information provided by self-styled consumer advocates 
who claim to be experts on public health matters, on websites such as that in 
the post below.

For accurate information on high blood pressure, please read this booklet 
provided by one of the world's most prominent publicly funded non-profit 
medical institutions, the U. S. National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute.

http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/public/heart/hbp/hbp_low/hbp_low.pdf

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Con Menezes cmene...@tpg.com.au wrote:
 
 Side-effects of Hypertension Drugs
 
 Con
 
 
 http://www.thepeopleschemist.com/view_learning.php?learning_id=6
 


  


Re: [Goanet] Prices in Canada

2009-06-09 Thread Mervyn Lobo

Roland Francis wrote:
 Eating Out.
 Dining in the good franchise restaurants like Alice Fazoolis, Red
 Lobster, Shoeless Joe's, Kelsey's, Swiss Chalet and the like can cost
 about $120 for 4 inclusive of an alcoholic drink and tips. Fine dining
 in Italian and Portuguese restaurants can cost much more than that. Be
 ready to spend about $250 to 300 for wine, drinks, food and desserts
 for 4 people. Indian Restaurant costs can vary. A higher class
 downtown joint can set you back about $200. One in Mississauga,
 Richmond Hill or Scarborough can be as little as $130 with falooda,
 lassi and Indian beer. Kingfisher is popular in these establishments
 and so is Guru. Service in Indian restaurants mostly stinks. And so do
 some of their gentleman's facilities.
 Hope some of you coming to Toronto to visit friends and relatives this
 summer find this info useful. And for the others this might provide a
 perspective of sorts.




Folks,
I have always been interested in the opinions of people who live in the 
same city as me but have completely different experiences than I do. I find 
Roland's experiences absolutely fascinating. 
 
 
He observations are priceless in more ways than one. When it comes to 
prices in Toronto, Roland Francis input has the same worth as this 
mathematical gem of his:
I wish on the basis of what you said that I had bought bangdes
(mackerals) in 1970. An investment of the same four thousand dollars
would have got me 600 million bangdes (taking into account that one
dollar equalled ten rupees then and that one rupee could have fetched
me 150 bangdes in Goa in season).
 
 
Why worry about prices? Why worry about numbers? Hey! So what if 
his numbers are so wrong that they enter into the realm of comedy? 
 
Mervyn1650Lobo



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[Goanet] Hindu healer loses funeral pyre court battle

2009-06-09 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE

Spiritual healer Davender Ghai suffers high court defeat in fight to be 
cremated on open-air pyre
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/08/hindu-funeral-pyre-ban

A devout Hindu today lost his high court battle for the legal right to be 
cremated on a traditional open-air funeral pyre.

Davender Ghai, 70, told a judge at a recent hearing that a pyre was essential 
to a good death and the release of his spirit into the afterlife.

The spiritual healer, from Gosforth, Newcastle upon Tyne, challenged Newcastle 
city council's refusal to permit him to be cremated according to his Hindu 
beliefs.

Mr Justice Cranston, sitting in London, dismissed the challenge, saying pyres 
were prohibited by law and the prohibition was justified. He gave Ghai 
permission to take the case to the court of appeal, but warned: I don't think 
there is a real prospect of success.

In his ruling, the judge said: The Cremation Act 1902 and its attendant 2008 
regulations are clear in their effect: the burning of human remains, other than 
in a crematorium, is a criminal offence. This effectively prohibits open-air 
funeral pyres.


Ghai is currently in India receiving medical treatment. In a statement after 
the ruling, he said: I respect the decision of the court but, for me, this is 
quite literally a matter of life and death. I shall appeal until the very end, 
in the faith that my dying wish will not go unheard. This is the beginning, not 
the end.

I have been pitted against the might of the ministry of justice and Newcastle 
city council – but I take solace from the fact that, with faith, a David like 
me can ultimately overcome the Goliath of state machinery.


Ghai brought the challenge under article 9 of the European convention on human 
rights, which protects religious freedom, and article 8, which covers the right 
to private and family life.

The justice secretary, Jack Straw, who had resisted Ghai's challenge, argued 
that others in the community would be upset and offended by pyres and would 
find it abhorrent that human remains were being burned in this way.

Ghai's lawyers said that with time, education and publicity the public would 
recognise that open-air funeral pyres were a practice worthy of respect.

However, the judge said those in favour of pyres would have to engage with the 
political process and attempt to change the present balance of interests.

He ruled that article 8 did not apply to the case because an open-air pyre 
would not only affect family and private life but have a public character.

Shrikant Vinayak Barve

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[Goanet] Complementary Alternative Medicine for Pet Health Management

2009-06-09 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE

Complementary  Alternative Medicine for Pet Health Management

http://tinyurl.com/n6devb

http://www.rvita.com/wellness/all-modality/wellness/general-wellness/complementary-alternative-medicine-for-pet-health-management.html

Written by Gowthaman K.
Monday, 08 June 2009 
 

Many of us think that Complementary and Alternative Medicine is meant for 
humans alone, but we are wrong. CAM modalities, such as ayurveda, Chinese 
medicine, Buddhist medicine, and homeopathy, have very elaborately discussed 
remedies for wellbeing of pets and other animals. There are numerous documented 
evidences available for the surgical treatments of horses, elephants, and pets 
in Ayurveda and Chinese medicine. 

Similar to homeopathic medicine, the Bach’s rescue remedies are known for their 
ability to produce calming effect on stressed and injured animals. Bach 
remedies are nothing but the use of diluted extracts of flowers and herbs. The 
concept of homeopathy that potency of very small doses could increase 
significantly by vigorous shaking (succussion) applies for Bach remedies too. 

Dr. Bach spent his entire life doing research on this subject and he believed 
that flower remedies are responsible for emotional and spiritual well-being. 
Flower essences have been found to work for animals as well. Flower essences 
restore the inner balance by working on the vital force thus allowing physical, 
mental, and emotional healing. It is not very difficult to gauge the emotion of 
one’s pet. Understanding the emotions of pets requires just a bit of 
observation and insight. Each of Dr. Bach’s 38 flower remedies help in managing 
a specific emotional condition in animals. 

Today, these essences are selected either singly or in combination depending 
upon the condition and the practitioner. The most popular Bach flower remedy is 
called the “Rescue remedy” and this is again a combination of five essential 
remedies which is good for stress and fear. Many modern veterinary centers use 
this combination for injury and stress in animals (usually for 6 weeks to get 
the desired effect). 

After Bach, a number of other researchers started working on this concept, one 
of which is California Flower Essences. This society is known for developing 
remedies from Native American plants.  

Some important Remedies 

1. ASPEN: Given to animals that are stressed and fearful without any apparent 
cause.
2. BLEEDING HEART: For animals who are grieving. 
3. CHAMOMILE: For pacifying the animals and for teething the animals. 
4. CRAB APPLE: To cleanse the animal system and to remove toxins from their 
body. 
5. IMPATIENTS: For hyperactive pets and animals. 
6. LARCH: Pets that lack confidence and are shy. 
7. WATER VIOLET: Helps the pet, especially the cat, to be friendlier. 
8. WILLOW: Helps control urination of the pets on the arrival of the another 
pet/ Baby

It is best to consult an expert veterinarian for treating the pets. Physical 
illness should be ruled out for proper medication and well-being of the pet. 
Flower essence is a great modality to integrate into the pet health routine, 
however it must be kept in mind that flower essence is not a substitute for all 
veterinary care.

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Re: [Goanet] Weather forecasting in North America

2009-06-09 Thread Michael Ali

Dear Alfred,

The hurricane was predicted..it was the levies ( dykes) that broke.

Regards,

Mike



[Goanet] Calcium Vanadium Silicate

2009-06-09 Thread Venantius Pinto
Is there any Chemist/ Mineralogist on Goanet who is aware of where in Goa
Pentagonite is found. Calcium Vanadium Silicate.
Also if there are any quarries that have struck Cavanasite.

Feel free to contact  me directly.

venantius


Re: [Goanet] The state of US capitalism and Ayurveda medicine

2009-06-09 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
I am not in favor, neither am I against a single payer (Canadian / British) 
health-care plan. The attached though makes one think carefully.  One of 
the difficulties of implementing a single payor plan or any efficient 
health-care plan is the following: The amount specified are dollars (with no 
decimals).  The compensation for the next echelon likely closely follows the 
top dog.

ANNUAL COMPENSATION (2006 and 2007):

� Ronald A. Williams, Chair/ CEO, Aetna Inc., $23,045,834
� H. Edward Hanway, Chair/ CEO, Cigna Corp, $30.16 million
� David B. Snow, Jr, Chair/ CEO, Medco Health, $21.76 million
� Michael B. MCallister, CEO, Humana Inc, $20.06 million
� Stephen J. Hemsley, CEO, UnitedHealth Group, $13,164,529
� Angela F. Braly, President/ CEO, Wellpoint, $9,094,771
� Dale B. Wolf, CEO, Coventry Health Care, $20.86 million
� Jay M. Gellert, President/ CEO, Health Net, $16.65 million
� William C. Van Faasen, Chairman, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts, $3 
million plus $16.4 million in retirement benefits
� Charlie Baker, President/ CEO, Harvard Pilgrim Health Care, $1.5 million
� James Roosevelt, Jr., CEO, Tufts Associated Health Plans, $1.3 million
� Cleve L. Killingsworth, President/CEO Blue Cross Blue Shield of 
Massachusetts, $3.6 million
� Raymond McCaskey, CEO, Health Care Service Corp (Blue Cross Blue Shield), 
$10.3 million
� Daniel P. McCartney, CEO, Healthcare Services Group, Inc, $ 1,061,513
� Daniel Loepp, CEO, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, $1,657,555
� Todd S. Farha, CEO, WellCare Health Plans, $5,270,825
� Michael F. Neidorff, CEO, Centene Corp, $8,750,751
� Daniel Loepp, CEO, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, $1,657,555
� Todd S. Farha, CEO, WellCare Health Plans, $5,270,825

Above information posted on the net.
Regards, GL





[Goanet] Goa-Velha, St. Andrew Church (built in 1583?)

2009-06-09 Thread JoeGoaUk
Goa-Velha, St. Andrew Church (built in 1583?)
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk19/3542057783/sizes/l/
 
I always thought the church is not more than 200 years old.
When I was young, an older lady from the village used to tell me about the 
facts of the church at the time of building it (it was passed on to her by her 
in-law and so on)
 
At the present church building site, there were huge pits (dug up holes/tanks 
for foundation etc).  During the monsoon, the local used to catch large Tigurr 
(a fresh water cat fish see pic 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk19/3489057632/  ) and I thought this must 
be around early 1900 or later 1800.  However, the Archdiocese website
http://www.archgoadaman.org/?q=content/parishes
 
 put the year 1583 which means more than 425 years old?
 
However, I think there was another church in the village towards Pilar.  The 
giant crosses still exist on the side of NH17 one near Dakonkar Hospital (St. 
Anthony road) and one opp PAP or Bharat Gas or where Kadambas capital was. 
Perhaps, this was the church which was built in 1583?
 
Anyway, here is a short clip of the church just uploaded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCVmnz9XpNE


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[Goanet] Goa news for June 10, 2009

2009-06-09 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** On schedule monsoon reaches Goa, expected on June 15: Met -
Times of India

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Rajkot/On-schedule-monsoon-reaches-Goa-expected-on-June-15-Met/articleshow/4633133.cmscid=1254795782ei=evAuSpnYLMudlQfjq-3KBQusg=AFQjCNHFDOcHU7F5qAQh_rz5PRtaNor5yQ

*** Inspiring past, promising future - Hindu

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2009/06/10/stories/2009061056241800.htmcid=1257571971ei=evAuSpnYLMudlQfjq-3KBQusg=AFQjCNG09sMPxbQlwTi7DltuvizedmZdfQ

*** Sesa Goa can touch Rs 179: Bose - Moneycontrol.com
V18, In the last few sessions, Sesa Goa has corrected quite a
bit and today it has showed a turnaround. ...
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*** Goa NCP chief, executive committee members quit party -
Thaindian.com

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*** Get visas in India, not from abroad: Faleiro - Times of
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*** Goa Civil Service officers protest \'improper\'
appointments - SamayLive
CS officials from positions traditionally occupied by state
service officers. The All Goa Civil Service Officers Association
(AGCSOA) ...
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*** Goa goes to Goa - IndiaGlitz
diaGlitz, CAVenkat Prabhu's Goa is proceeding in full speed
even as his producer Soundarya Rajinikanth is working on her
magnum opus, Sultan The Warrior. Goa, which stars Venkat's usual
coterie of Jai, Sampath, Vaibhav and Premgi, has three heroines,
Sneha, ...
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*** Jazz from Goa, India. - eJazzNews
azzNews, CanadaIf the Indian film music industry is making
international inroads these days, it is thanks to the
foundations that were laid down by Goan musicians. Infact, Goa
can now be called India's music capital. Unfortunately the state
of musicians in our music ...
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*** Beggars Act inadequate, say Goa cops - Times of India
mes of India, IndiaPANAJI: In a circular to to all its
personnel operating the police control room vans, the Goa police
have asked that they act in a more sensitive and humane manner
when attending calls. This comes in the wake of the severe
criticism the police faced ...
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*** Old Goa churches vie for honours - Times of India
mes of India, IndiaPANAJI: Goa's Basilica of Bom Jesus and Se
Cathedral will vie with 25 other monuments from former
Portuguese colonies for top honours under a project New 7
Wonders Portugal'. These are wonders of the Portuguese colonies.
Goa's twowonders of the ...
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Re: [Goanet] Goan, be exclusionary

2009-06-09 Thread Silvia Bragan�a
Dear Frederick!
I love your deep reflection. It is impportant as our days.
Thanks,
Silvia


2009/6/4 Goanet Reader
  Goan, be exclusionary

  DEVIL'S ADVOCATE/ Frederick Noronha

  For a small place like Goa, where we are always short of
  critical mass, you would think that every individual counted. 




Re: [Goanet] Prices in Canada

2009-06-09 Thread J. Colaco jc
 Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com

[1]  this post is about prices of some common food and eatables in Toronto
[2] Service in Indian restaurants mostly stinks. And so do some of
their gentleman's facilities.


Comment:

My reason of going to a restaurants is likely to be one of the following

a: to taste something which we do not cook at home
b: to give the home-kitchen a rest
c: to meet up with friends
d: for business reasons

It is true that the service in Indian restaurants is quite poor - the
consolation being that it is marginally better than that in Chinese
restaurants.

The food varies. These days, I am loathe to buy sea food from Chinese
places. The Made in China fish just might have additional 'heavy
metal' stuff in it thanks to the massive pollution in that
country.

Indian food varies quite a bit. It is possible that the 'chefs' go to
the highest payer Once they get their 'papers'. Hence, the food in
good Indian restaurants drops in quality every once in a while.

It is worth knowing that,  in many Indian restaurants,  whatever one
orders .korma, masala, jafrezi etc you are likely to get the
same taste.

And there is this fake Vindaloo which is basically (as served) Any
curry + chilli powder.

We were in Old Town Alexandria (Virginia) yesterday and we were
served tikka masala + chilli powder' as Vindaloo. There even was an
explanation: North Indian vindaloo is different from South Indian
vindaloo. What nonsense.

Last Saturday ...we went out to Coriander Indian restaurant in New
Jersey. Must say the food, the service and the 'gentleman's room'
were all excellent.

Tomorrow ...we intend to go to 28th and Lexington (here in New York)
and check out the Desi restaurant scene. (No intention of going near
the gentleman's room)

Anyway . I wanted to recommend to Roland the following
restaurant in Toronto

http://www.therealjerk.com/

good wishes

jc


Re: [Goanet] Goa-Velha, St. Andrew Church (built in 1583?)

2009-06-09 Thread Themistocles D'Silva
Ref: Date of founding of Majorda Church.


The dates of the founding of the churches in Goa in the Directory of the 
Archdiocese 
are not always correct and one should be cautious in citing it in any research. 
 In 
your listing the date of the founding of the Church of Mother of Goa in Majorda 
is 
not correct.  This Church was founded in 1588 as is documented in all the 
Church 
history books.  It may have been rebuilt in 1646, the date published in the 
Directory.




[Goanet] Interrogating modernity, gendering 'tradition': Teatr tales from Goa Rowena Robinson

2009-06-09 Thread Frederick FN Noronha
Interrogating modernity, gendering 'tradition': Teatr tales from Goa
Rowena Robinson

Department of Humanities and Social Sciences, Indian Institute of
Technology, Powai, Mumbai, 400 076, India

This paper examines the teatr, a form of popular theatre in
contemporary Goa, and the ways in which it engages with the modern,
defining and 'fixing', in the same moment, a particular variant of
'tradition'. The plays of this genre revolve around questions of moder
nity. In a complex articulation of the realms of the global and the
local, modern culture, social mores, politics and economics, tourism
and the global media are all represented, queried, even critiqued.
Simultaneously, tradition, gender and family relations are viewed as
requiring protection from the harmful effects of the modern. Thus, we
are offered a par ticularly glorified representation of the
'traditional' Goan woman and her immurement in the family. Scholars
studying cinema, theatre and the arts have spoken of similar construc
tions elsewhere. Given their pervasiveness, the temptation to read
these constructions as constituting a homogeneous dominant ideology
are great. However, while the teatrs contain women within tradition,
there are ruptures and moments when different ideas and voices
surface. The paper argues that these moments are worth holding as
traces of alternative, though suppressed, models, and as reminders of
what the dominant ideology has to counter in establishing and
maintaining its heyemony.

Contributions to Indian Sociology, Vol. 33, No. 3, 503-539 (1999)
DOI: 10.1177/006996679903300302

http://cis.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/33/3/503
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[Goanet] Among the greatest Goans: HERALD(Goa), June 10, 2009

2009-06-09 Thread Valmiki Faleiro



AMONG THE GREATEST GOANS…
By Valmiki Faleiro
(with inputs from Joaquim Correia-Afonso, Benaulim and Francisco Monteiro, 
Lisbon)

Today, 10 June, is the 150th birth anniversary of Roque Correia-Afonso. In the 
gallery of
great Goans who defended, and pursued, Goan interests in public life, down 
history, his
memory immediately springs to mind. Such was the multi-faceted persona – 
advocate,
journalist, politician and statesman – that it’s difficult to decide where to 
begin and end.
Let’s go chronologically.

Roque Correia was a legendary advocate from the ‘garden’ village of Benaulim. He
attracted law students even from faraway Macau. Agostinho Afonso of Divar was a 
pupil.
By his Coelho wife from Margao’s Holy Spirit church square, Roque had two 
daughters.
Adelia married a Mesquita from Consua-Cortalim. Propercia married Agostinho, 
and the
family name changed from Correia to Correia-Afonso. To this marital union was 
born
Joao Joaquim Roque Correia-Afonso (RCA), 10-June-1859. He inherited not just the
name and legal mind, but, from his grandpa’s laps, love for humanity and for 
Goa.

At age 16, together with fellow students, RCA launched a periodical, ‘Estreia 
Literária.’
Then joined Margao advocate, Joao Manuel Pacheco for an apprenticeship in law – 
and,
like his own father, ended becoming his senior’s son-in-law.

At 20, RCA set up legal practice and emerged a brilliant advocate, with 
powerful oratory.
He had a way with words, both spoken and written. He wrote copiously for Goan 
papers
of the time. The ‘O Heraldo’ had been slapped with a State suit. It had 
published (1903)
extracts of a sermon by Fr. Sarmento Ozorio, an outspoken critic of Goa’s 
colonial rule.
The editor, Dr. Antonio Maria da Cunha, sat in the courtroom, awaiting justice. 
When the
Public Prosecutor concluded final arguments, it was RCA’s turn to defend the 
editor.

“I have nothing to say,” RCA submitted, and sat down. The courtroom was 
stunned. The
Prosecutor wore a wide grin. The judge was bewildered. After a long pause, he 
asked
RCA, “have you nothing to say in defence of the accused?”

RCA repeated his five words, but implored the judge to look at the accused, who 
was
soundly asleep. “Cunha’s conscience is so clean that he can peacefully sleep on 
a day
when he could be sent to jail for years.” Cunha was acquitted. Records and 
proceedings
of the case were published as a book, ‘A Opiniao da Justica e a Justica da 
Opiniao.’

Though an acclaimed advocate, this “champion of lost causes,” who all his adult 
life
fought oppressive officialdom, leveraged his intellect, legal skills, powerful 
oratory and a
mighty pen for the dignity and political rights of Goans.

Early on, the brilliant orator joined the ‘Partido Indiano.’ In the 
bloodletting Parliament
polls of Sept. 21, 1890, he boldly issued his famous ‘Minuta de Agravo’ and 
proclaimed,
“Never again an ‘official’ candidate!” He served in the Provincial Congresses 
and on the
Governor’s Council – the good of Goa uppermost in his mind. At one session, a 
proposal
for promoting ‘tavernas’ was under discussion. He firmly believed alcohol was 
root of
serious social and health problems.

End of his eloquent anti-taverna tirade, he looked at the Governor in the eye 
and said,
“Your Excellency, Goa is a ‘taverna’ and (pointing his finger at the 
Governor...) you are
its (the taverna’s) keeper!” The proposal was quickly dropped. Provincial 
Congresses
were convened at his instance. He presided over the 3rd, where his outstanding
leadership qualities shone bright as ever.

Appointed Mayor of Salcete by Governor-General Dr. Couceiro da Costa, he 
envisoned
several projects in industry, public transport and education. Most proposals, 
alas, stayed
on paper as RCA, yet again, fell out of gubernotarial grace. Margao was then 
under a
plague. At personal risk, he ventured forth to provide solace. Upon his demise, 
a grateful
town not only placed his portrait in the civic hall, but named after him one of 
its main
thoroughfares, leading to his native Benaulim.


From enactment of enlightened laws to revival of ‘ganvkaris,’ from better 
agricultural

practices (he had a particular fondness for coconut cultivation, which he 
dubbed the
“major wealth of Goa”) to championing higher education for women, his 
contribution to
Goa was perhaps the greatest by any Goan in that era.

A devout Catholic, he stoutly opposed the caste system, gladly joined a 
confraternity of
‘lower’ castes, and willed he be burried in an unmarked grave. Death occured on 
March
27, 1937.

RCA and Claudina Pacheco had a dozen, his “twelve apostles,” one-third “copper” 
(four
sons), two-third “silver” (eight daughters), “gold” were his daughters-in-law, 
all well-
placed in life, and 52 grandchildren, who together built the Correia-Afonsos 
into an
institution – not just in Goa, but around the world.

RCA left a library of his own books/writings, and others have written more 
about him.
The greatest tribute we 

[Goanet] Fwd: Dolphy D'souza, Pres. BCS on Civic Issues on CNN -IBN on June 10.

2009-06-09 Thread Bosco D'Mello
-- Forwarded message --
From: presid...@bcsabha presid...@bcsabha.org
Date: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Subject: Dolphy D'souza, Pres. BCS on Civic Issues on CNN -IBN on June 10.
To:





Dear Friends,

Watch Dolphy D'souza, as Citizen Journalist on Civic Issues on CNN-IBN .

The programme will be telecaston Wednesday, June 10: between 0800 a.m. to 0900 
a.m 
and relayed again bet 1300 to 1400 hrs and 1500 hrs to 1600 hrs .

Thank you,

BCS TEAM.





Re: [Goanet] The state of US capitalism and Ayurveda medicine

2009-06-09 Thread Bosco D'Mello
-Original Message-
From: Gilbert Lawrence

 Bosco,

 Darn those instant references,  fact-checking, transcripts and video-links.
 More increasingly, the right-wing is being caught red-handed lying about the 
 facts.

 See below:
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/05/rick-sanchez-rips-bill-or_n_211971.html


RESPONSE:

I concur with the comments in para 1. All politicians are less than completely 
truthful.

Re the weblink above - that is another in a series of partisan websites 
vis-a-vis US 
politics. It provides the opposite view of the links that Mario provides. I 
would 
not use it as a reference for anything.

Arianna's theatrics on the tube are boring. Perhaps you are aware she was a 
right-winger in the 80s and 90s before turning into a liberal-Democrat after 
divorcing the oil-magnate [1].

- Bosco


References:

[1]  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianna_Huffington




Re: [Goanet] Complementary Alternative Medicine for Pet Health Management

2009-06-09 Thread Santosh Helekar

--- On Tue, 6/9/09, SHRIKANT BARVE shri8...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Today, these essences are selected either singly or in
 combination depending upon the condition and the
 practitioner. The most popular Bach flower remedy is called
 the “Rescue remedy” and this is again a combination of
 five essential remedies which is good for stress and fear.
 

Bach flower therapy is a good example of quackery. Here is an article entitled 
Bach Flower Remedies: Time to Stop Smelling the Flowers?, telling us why it 
is so:

http://www.mystrobl.de/ws/bachfle.htm

Cheers,

Santosh





[Goanet] PRAYERS FOR DOMNIC FERNANDES.

2009-06-09 Thread ARLETTE AZAVEDO
Dear all,

This is to inform you all that our very own GOANETTER Domnic Fernandes from 
Anjuna suffered a stroke on the right side on April 14 and has been in bed 
since then.  Luckily, he was taken to the Goa Medical College within two hours 
where his nephew, Dr. Caraciolo Nazareth and his colleagues attended on him and 
saved him from permanent paralysis. He is slowly recovering from the stroke and 
hopes to be back in normal health soon, though he still needs a lot of rest.  

Let's keep Domnic in our prayers. Dear Jesus, Divine Physician and Healer of 
the Sick, we turn to You in this time of illness. O dearest Comforter of the 
sick, alleviate our worry and sorrow with Your gentle love, and grant Domnic 
the grace and strength to accept his ailment. Dear God, we place Domnic under 
Your care and humbly ask that You restore his health again. Above all, be with 
Domnic when he is alone or dejected. Comfort him when he is discouraged. And 
touch him with your healing Spirit that he may be get his normal health back 
again.

Infact, I just spoke to Domnic now and he said he is recovering but he needs 
prayers from each one of you, so dears, plz say a special prayer for Domnic 
that he may recoup as soon as possible.

Wishing you all good health and keep safe.

Arlette Azavedo.





[Goanet] photograph of a postman's bag

2009-06-09 Thread Joel Moraes
Postman is one among the very few government employees who are sincere in their 
job.Rain or shine he braves the same with his cycle.Attached is the photograph 
of one of the bags which is in very bad shape used by a postman in 
Cuncolim.It's raining time now in Goa and the poor postman covers the torn bag 
with a piece of plastic so that the mail doesn't get wet.
 
Our government must be spending a hell of money on the luxuries of our useless 
elected representatives and the deserving people like the postman gets old torn 
bags,scrap cycles,one uniform and a unbrella might be for at least 2 years.
 
Joel Morais
P.O.Cuncolim,
Bencleamvaddo,
Salcette,Goa.
Pin-403703
mob-9970561727