[Goanet] Fly by night politics in Goa

[Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

Watch "BJP SPLITS MGP IN MIDNIGHT COUP, BABU AND PAUSKAR JOIN BJP_Prudent
Media Goa" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/msA1l0TJLa4

[Goanet] The late John D'Souza

[Mervyn Maciel]

Dear John,

   In response to your latest message - all I can say is:

*De Mortuis Nil Nisi bonum*


*Mervyn Maciel*

[Goanet] Babu & Pavaskar merge MGP group into BJP! Why?

[Gabe Menezes]

For the love of money and power?

http://www.goanews.com/news_disp.php?newsid=7637

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] Destruction of Panjim Jetty on Mandovi river by Capt of Ports

[Stephen Dias]

In addition to my earlier mail the following may please be noted:

The work is presently going on for almost 24 hrs continuously throughout
the week which is disturbing the residents with loud noise which is against
the SC direction and hence contempt of court.
One of the resident I was told he had already filed  a police complaint
yesterday and those contract persons and their group leader  have been
interrogated.

Stephen Dias
DONA PAULA
27.3.2019


-- Forwarded message -
From: Stephen Dias 
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019, 12:51
Subject: Destruction of Jett y on Mandovi river by Capt of Ports
To: Joel Afonso , Alexandre Moniz Barbosa <
amonizbarb...@gmail.com>, Times of India , navhind
times 


TERMINAL BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED BY GSIDC AT THE PANJIM JETTY
PHOTOS JUST CLICKED TODAY
THE STEEL STRUCTURE HAVING 50 CMS  DIA. AND THE LENGTH IS APPROX 50 METRES
IF THIS  BUILDING IS ALLOWED TO COME UP AT THE JETTY THAN OTHER COLUMNS
ORIGINALLY FIXED DURING PORTUGUESE TIMES WILL GET CRACKS AND COLLAPSE. THEY
MAY DISAPEAR WITHOUT ANYBODY KNOWLEDGE.

STEPHEN DIAS
DONA PAULA
27.3.2019

Sent from my Samsung device

[Goanet] Henry Derozio

[Joao Barros-Pereira]

He is from around Calcutta but I think he isn't Goan but Anglo-Indian
- this is from hearsay, from an Anglo-Indian journalists i knew while
at university in Mumbai. I can't be sure though.

As for God or the Pope being a Goan it smacks of backslapping.

The truth might be this - the Devil is a Goan. Not too bad as Hindus
say you can't have one without the other!

[Goanet] AIFF REPORT: MAHESH GAWLI LEADS A QUIET REVOLUTION AT THE BACK

[AIFF Media]

Dear colleagues,

Please find below a report containing quotes from Mahesh Gawli.

---


*MAHESH GAWLI LEADS A QUIET REVOLUTION AT THE BACK *


*By Soumo Ghosh,AIFF Media Team*



*BHUBANESWAR: *The attacking instincts of the Indian Arrows have always
been on display in the Hero I-League under Floyd Pinto. But there’s more to
what meets the eye. A lot has changed at the defensive front with the unit
staying more cohesive, keeping calm during those crucial phases backing
each other, and defending as a team.

*READ ON: **https://www.the-aiff.com/news-center-details.htm?id=9539*


*---*

Best Regards,

Media Department, AIFF.
Alternate: me...@the-aiff.com
Website: www.the-aiff.com

[Goanet] Goan POPE

[Adolfo Mascarenhas]

Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 14:06:44 + (UTC)
From: Jean & Marcos Catao 
To: Goanet 
Subject: [Goanet] GOAN Pope
Message-ID: <245817277.7310417.1553090804...@mail.yahoo.com>

Dear you state that you have been following with concern and regret the
discussions going on  columns about the possible practical results of the
eelction of a GOAN POPE. which, though remote is not impossible

*MY HUMBLE RESPONSE *

Dear Jean & Marcus

You  both are remarkable, Indeed we are all unique and that includes me……In
this respect I was reading an article by a group of
matheticians…apparently,,,if you think that  Newton,  Einstien. or  Hawkin
were brilliant think again. According to them if you think of all the
UNBORN” & all those that will follow US ALL , you will find that there are
many intellectual giants to follow…..I am writing a story to draw attention
to the +10 million Indian women. Who in the last two decades or so have
been killed aborted, because of dowry, caste etc….add a similar number of
Chinese also eliminated for reasons related. Ditto slavery…Think of the
Women Professor who won the Able Prize, or the first American Women , who
worked on the Jumping  gene theory, think of the obstacles they faced.  It
happens in all societies.  As the Director of Post Graduate Studies at
UDSM  I realized how rotten lige can be for women.girlbut that is another
story. I try to shoulder  my responsibilities as a Catholic….I do not think
we should not leave it to the Popes, or Bishops or priests should shoulder
all responsibilities, The liety should participate . I have four points to
make



*1)   **First of all I want  to  Thank You Both:  *

I HAD NOT EVEN HEARD of  Cardinal Das ….you state that Cardinal Das, a
brillian intellectual, who knew 13 languages including Aramaic and Sanskrit
and an ideological soul-mate of the elected Pope, who, if elected would
have gone a long way steering the church back to its moorings? undone by
Vatican II.I am aware there will be contrarian views as there are on any
sub ject but Cardinal Dias ….You have a BUT….. Give mea priest like Saint
Joseph  Vas, was true to theDEo yoy realize the single biggest advance
in te 20th Centure was the use of Venecular languages,should priests  face
the congregation and go back to the  old days…..*Do you realize that the
last supper  Christ faced the apostles. Did he use Hebrew, Why did Latin
become so important…..it was an Imperial Language ……etc  The Second Vatican
did a good job*.







*2)   **What Has All of this to do with the GOAN POPE?*

An Octegarian Profeessor like me, in the Goan Digest has written how bad
and nasty, Popes, Bishops, and Pedophiles have been. There is no doubt that
several of them carried some very very shameful and disgusting acts and
actually bragged and perpetuating it.  I agree with the Goan Professor (Is
he a white Canadian Goan)



The  fact is that there were some  REMARKABLE POPES )  There should be a
balance…Starting with St Peter and now the Jesuit Pope Francis…His
visit to Qatar, and various other places….compassionate, understanding,
respects sancity of life,….those priests and others who commit crimes
should be persecuted….the church will not stand in the way. What else do
you expect Pope Francis to do….Beome the judge and Jury and reintroduce the
Inquisition.



*3)   **So what What Has All to do with the Posting that Mervyn in
Texas,, Roland and My Friend who spent time in Northern Kenya and is now
resting inSouthern England*

I cannot speak for the others, But the best line of defence is to be able
to laugh at ourselves when we have to face reality> Take it from me there
is no disrespect…..even the thought of disrespecting those who do great
work in the name of Christ…. One of the earliest books I read from cover to
cover, bought from my first stipend was We African….autographed by Satchmo
Himself, became friends with Jonathan Kingdon you suddenly realize how
terrible our religious/politicians /kings  have b een !  Read Eddies
account  of Henry the eight treated his priests, bishops,he even
executed Anne because she bore him a daughter instead of a son. My friend
from Madras reminded me that the total number Roman Catholics would have
been very much higher had it not been for the English, the Dutch etc.  We
are cracking jokes about the absurdities of us Christians.  Yes when doing
my field work in the Pacific PalisadeI found that the Methodist had
successfully banned any bars in the township ….they did the same in India.
If a Goan Pope banned Prawns, and Shell fish, I would not suffer one night
of sleep….I am allergic to them…



 I am laughing at ourselves and the things we do in the name of Jesus.



*4)   **I am a Goanphile actually trying to find my identity*

….I think any  Jesuit, Franciscan, Maryknoll…etc who try to help hungry
People, stop  abuse ,,  listens to people

I think Goans are remarkable, basically Indians. But Hindus, Muslims, Pre
St Francis and Post \Francis 

[Goanet] GOD. The Pope, Bill Cardoso and Henry The Eight

[Adolfo Mascarenhas]

Message: 1 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:01:51 +0530
From: Frederick Noronha 
To: Goanet 
Subject: [Goanet] God, the Pope ... Bill Cardoso and Henry Derozio
Message-ID: <
camcr53k95qcen2fd3whswwu9-35yosvmdor5o6vfxouygzs...@mail.gmail.com>

I thought the medication had damaged my brain and sight  a Goan pope, a
Goan God and Henry the Eight.
A fresh banana and my brain cleared ..all these guys weloser
investigation actually made me realize that a certain  Marcos Cataoare
actually Tanganyikans .who started in Dar during the DOA days t
went to St Josephs in Dar
Welcome to the EA Goan Pope Group. Membership is free.
Only condition Don't be a white Goan Canadian

Grandolfo Mascarenhas
In Transformed Dar es Salaam

PS Do you have any photographs   of  Dar Goans going back to 1905 when the
Germans shifted the capital from Bagamoyo to Dar

Re: [Goanet] Goan Pope & Bombay Duck(BD)

[Adolfo Mascarenhas]

Do they call BD MUMBAI DUCK... My impression is that they are not fish or
snake...Thisis why Maasai are horrified to even think about eating fish,

TONY ALMEIDA ...we professionals & lay people, whites, brown, blacks & in
between...hindus, muslims & christians all celebrated his life &
contribution. We thanked God for leading us his servant Tony.

Grandolfo


On Mon, 18 Mar 2019, 20:36 Adolfo Mascarenhas  Uggh Really.
> I saw my first creatures that you call   Bombay Duck...in Bombay  We spent
> a couple of nights in a KUDD. Horrible place, smell too many guys using the
> same toilet.
> We have loaded all the luggage...jars of feni, Port Wine bottles cushioned
> by wickerwork, dried prawns, etc.
> I dont know why we were waiting but the cranes were busy... i am staring
> aim lessly when on the lower deck the cooks help throws liquid & solid
> thresh into the harbour. Suddenly, from no where these creatures neither
> fish nor snake are in a frenzy, gobbling up muck.
> An excited voice tells a smaller boy
> ' Come !Come see BOMY DUCK'
>  Neither a snake nor a fish and here an offspring is told they are DUCKS
> !  ! I rather go below and stare into the cavern of the engine room.
> Decades later will a Goencar tell me:
> 1) are these   creatures   only found in  Bombay.
> 2) are they endangered
> 3) are they found in Goa
> 4) Do you Fish them or scoop them.
> BWANA SHAMBA Do you know a good Maasai will not eat fish, they regard fish
> like snake ..no legs use their tails to get around.
>
> Adolfo Mascarenhas
> In Dar es Salaam
>
> PS Unknown to me our lagguage had dried & pickled BD.
>
> z
>

[Goanet] The Late John D'Souza RIP

[Adolfo Mascarenhas]

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 08:28:23 +
From: Mervyn Maciel 
To: "Estb. 1994! Goa's Premiere Mailing List"
 Subject: [Goanet] The late John D'Souza
Message-ID: 

I did not know John   but all my friends including those that I grew up
with in Dar and who over the years have migrated elsewhere speak highly of
this wonderful person.  John is dead a gone. He is now everlasting.

There is something sickening envy that out of the blues we are judgmentally
being told told that John had flaws ...please even Saints had
flaws..

Marvyn,  you described a certain individuals response as being  "RATHER
UNSAVORY" perhaps a better word is UNCOUTH.
Let us not judge the dead.we might be exposing yourself !!!

Adolfo Mascarenhas
Dar es Salaam

*This is not a time for nit-picking.*
*I think we are all agreed that John D'Souza*
*was indeed an icon - a rare Goan who worked*
*tirelessly and selflessly - perhaps behind the scenes - for*
*the benefit of our community.*
*   Those who knew him personally have sung his*
*praises in no uncertain terms. *
*   Unfortunately, I never had the pleasure of meeting John -*
*but from our interaction for well over a decade, I was convinced*
*that here was a man who had our community's interests at heart*
*and did much to further their cause .*
*Now that he is no more, let us honour his memory.*

*Mervyn Maciel"*

[Goanet] BOMBAY DUCK

[Adolfo Mascarenhas]

UGGHH
 Neither a snake nor a fish...You should know with your experience in N.
Kenya..Thd Maasai will not eat fish...reminds them of snakes. Fish do not
walk they use their tails to propel themselves  ! !
These BĎ are  not now called  MUMBAI DUKES

Adolfo Mascarenhas
Dar es Salaam

[Goanet] GOA Picnic in the Park- reminder

[Goans ofAmerica]

Hello Everyone,

We are soon approaching our first event this year - Our Annual GOA
Picnic in the Park!

*Sunday, April 7, 2019*

12:00 pm - 5:00 pm

*Columbia Park*


4045 190th Street

Torrance, CA 90504

Games for all ages

Kids games, Volley Ball, Bingo, and more...


Potluck lunch

Singles bring an appetizer or dessert & 1-liter soft drink

Families bring a main dish & 1-liter soft drink

GOA will provide tea & snacks.

 Entrance and parking are on Prairie Ave

Parking is free in the parking lot

 GOA will meet in the reserved picnic area beyond the parking lot.

-- 
Warm Regards,
Sharel Figueredo
President
GOA LA

[Goanet] BJP’S CHEAP POLITRIKS OVER EVEN THE DEAD

[Aires Rodrigues]

While we are amidst elections, the deceitful BJP is trying to desperately
and deviously garner sympathy over the death of Manohar Parrikar. But the
people of Goa are no fools. From the very statements of the BJP leaders
that this is going to garner votes for BJP is admission that the BJP is
bankrupt to showcase any of its achievements during the reign of Manohar
Parrikar and instead, the party is heading towards near annihilation.



We all know the sheer mess that the former Chief Minister has selfishly and
very ruthlessly left behind.  It has been a long string of U-turns,
abundant scams and corruption galore.



The current so called condolence meetings are infact party campaign
meetings and even ferrying those ashes across the State will bring no
solace to the fast sinking saffron party. Time for the Election Commission
to step in and prevent malpractices by a dying party at the cost of a dead
man.



While mourning should be a private family affair, the BJP is shamelessly
publicizing those private visits of dignitaries to the residence of late
Manohar Parrikar. All this stage managed cheap drama will yield the BJP no
mileage and they should just allow Manohar Parrikar’s Soul to rest in
peace.



Goa needs to move on and recover from the irreparable damage and
destruction of the State that we have witnessed over the last few years.
Less said the better on the awful and appalling legacy that Manohar
Parrikar has left behind. Goa's most corrupt, communal and very vindictive
Chief Minister.

Aires Rodrigues

Advocate High Court

C/G-2, Shopping Complex

Ribandar Retreat,

Ribandar – Goa – 403006

Mobile No: 9822684372

Office Tel  No: (0832) 2444012

Email: airesrodrigu...@gmail.com

 Or

   airesrodrig...@yahoo.com

You can also reach me on

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[Goanet] OffTopic: Francis First Pontiff to Write (Computer) Code

[Albert Peres]

Pope Francis Makes History by Becoming the First Pontiff to Write Code

As well as writing code, the pope held video conferences with young 
people from around the world at the ‘Programme for Peace’ project launch 
last week.


by Ross Kelly, Junior Staff Writer @rossk_1992
https://digit.fyi/pope-francis-writes-code/

Computer history was made last week when Pope Francis helped write a 
line of code for a United Nations development app.


At an event organised by the Scholas Occurrentes foundation in Vatican 
City, the pontiff joined three young women to write the code. As well as 
becoming the first pope to code, he called on students around the world 
to learn computer science for world peace.


The event marked the launched of the ‘Programming for Peace’ project, 
which aims to introduce students from disadvantaged communities to 
computer science and to help use their tech talent for “ethical” purposes.


The three young women, Matilde Fabrega Vivanco from Chile; Nicole 
Rodriguez from New York; and Liuren Yin from China, are learning 
computer science in school. Vivanco helped the pontiff in adding the 
last line of code to the app.


The app the trio wrote aims to show how technology can be used to 
advance the United Nations’ Sustainable Development Goals.


The goals are the UN’s blueprint to “achieve a better and more 
sustainable future for all” – which address global challenges such as 
poverty, inequality, climate and justice. A key focus of the scheme is 
to improve education and innovation around the world.


A commemorative plaque shown on the app screen was blessed by Pope 
Francis, which read: “Computer science empowers young people to create 
peace in their communities. Everyone should learn how to harness 
technology, to use their creative power for peace.”


As well as writing code, the pontiff held video conferences with young 
people from around the world and spoke to children who had participated 
in a number of technology programmes promoted by Scholas.


Hadi Partovi, co-founder of Code.org, was present at the launch of the 
Programming for Peace project, live-tweeting the events as they unfolded.


During the event, Partovi commented: “In the 21st century, computer 
science is a fundamental subject that all students should learn. Schools 
should teach computer science to prepare students for the future, 
empower children with creativity and teach how to harness technology and 
creativity.”


---end---
Original article includes photo

--
Albert Peres

afpe...@3129.ca
416.660.0847 cell

Re: [Goanet] The late John D'Souza

[Eugene Correia]

Merwyn, yiu are writing as a friend. Few hours ago I came from the Mass and the 
reception, while his cremation was private. I taled to few people and some were 
aware of my post on goanet. 
All agreed that John was "problematic" and I am now sure why those on Goa 
Archives Canada (GAC), which started as Goa Archives Project (GAP), left with 
the whole project in John's hands.
The project was to be completed in 2010 and till today it isn't done. Whenever 
the issue was raised with him, he just brushed it aside. No doubt it was his 
idea, but he wasn't, as someone said, a "team player."
In fact, he came up with tons of ideas but one of the persons ge consulted with 
said they were "not practical."
I agree with those said he was a good background worker. He could take on the 
leadership role even when he was the sole motivatir of the idea on formation a 
group or an association.
I said he was blunt and irrational at times. He called me shit-disburber and in 
the same breath he said we need someone like me. Shows how he saw things, 
double-vision, if I mat say so.
I care a "shit"  what Fred has to say, for he hasn't interacted with him as I 
did. Recently, he sent an email to couple of us on Goanet requesting to post 
something he wanted to be noted on Goanet. And I replied to him ssying why he 
can't do it himself, shooting from someone else's shoulder.
At Braz  Menezes' book launch he saud to me that a threw a spanner in the 
celebration of 30th year of the First Goan Int'l Convent, held in Toronto in 
1988. I had written as what is there to celebrate since the IGO  born out of it 
is "dead" or "comatiose." It was my view as someone who played a crucial role 
in the hosting of the convention.
I met Norman da Costa, whi wrote on Cyrian's page to which I reacted, but he 
said nothing. A close friend of John told me that  calling Jihn an "icon" was 
ridiculous. Who are "we" who agreed to say he was an icon, may I ask you? May I 
ask you if John was a "historian"? Or, a "history buff"? 
I hate to say but the Goans from Africa here are "clanish." The Dr. Rebeiro 
School network is strkng and they stand by each other. So are Uganda Goans. No 
diubt, Goans who came directly from either Goa ir Bombay nicknamed GOA as Goans 
of Africa.When I came here in 81, a couple of Bombay guys asked hiw I can get 
along with the African Goans as I plunged myself with vokuntary work fir the 
GOA and tgen served under three Presidents. My reply to these well-meanubg 
Bombay guys was that i am nit afriad to butt heads with them. Till today, I am 
not scared to take them on. 
John Nazareth shook hands with me at the Funeral home, as he was also angry for 
my writing againt the celebrations of the convention. Both Johns didn't play 
any role whatsoever in the convention but were front and centre to celebrate 
the 30th year.
merwyn, you have yiyr vuews and I have mine. Though I must say I harbour no 
ill-feeling for John, and it's just my assessment. One iif guys from the 
now-defunct Steering Committee of the GAC approached me when he saw me at the 
church entrance and we spoke about the GAC and he said he would  talk to John's 
brither Romeo abiut getting the stuff from John's basement. He saud he would 
get in touch with me. Wait Nd see if like-minded people can salvage the GAC and 
make it a real testimony to Jihn's memory and his devotion to "tracing our 
roots", the motto of the GAC.

Eugene. Correia


Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 26, 2019, at 6:14 AM, Frederick Noronha  
> wrote:
> 
> I too agree the comments from Eugene were unsavoury, to put it mildly. But
> what to do? That's Eugene... It's easy to criticise ourselves. As the
> Guirim cemetery reminds us, Aiz mhaka, faleam tuka :-)
> I knew John for many, many years, but only in an online way. He struck me
> as a low-profile, behind-the-scenes kind of guy. But then, as they
> sometimes say, a lot of noise can also be the sign of an empty vessel. And
> John was nothing of that.
> If not mistaken, John was one of the co-founders of the GoaCom project,
> which had Marlon Menezes (now Dr), engineer Tim D'Mello and Marlon's dad
> Jerry Menezes in Miramar, holding up different sides of the fort. Freddy
> Faria of Morod, Mapusa and Marylin from Chorao worked in crafting those
> webpages, and it was a small and friendly world. Bitterness, rivalry and
> spam had yet to creep in. Think of a cyber-Eden before the time of the
> serpent :-)
> Of course, Marlon had laid the foundation for GoaCom.com in his earlier
> college sparetime project Goa-Web, which grew into one of Goa's first
> internet business. And how! My understanding was that Tim-John-Jerry, who
> were almost a generation older than Marlon, then only in his 20s, helped
> with the business, investing, management and other tasks.This all happened
> almost exactly 25 years ago. I am open to correction on this.
> GoaCom, Goanet (then variously called GoaNet or Goa-net) and Goa-World came
> up almost simultaneously in diverse 

[Goanet] Fwd: Song for the day.....The Monteiros-ABC do Coracao

[Gabe Menezes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pM6Og-zEpk


-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.