This is atrocious. Why cannot Women have the same rights as men? This is
tantamount to likening Women to Animals who are kept on a leash and are
subject to the wills of their masters. Even animals have rights and under the
Muslim system, it would appear that women do not have any rights
cant discard purdah for politics'
--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
Here again, the leftovers of our religious assumptions come
into play.
A. Separation of church and state.
B. Freedom of religion.
C. Freedom of expression.
1. Why should we be just
Does the secular democracy as defined below exist in reality?
Or is it just some desirable goal we long hanker for, but is always
out of reach, as in Plato's The Republic?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Republic_(Plato)
FN
PS: See Pankaj Mishra, Secular democracy goes on trial
--- On Sat, 3/13/10, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
Does the secular democracy as defined below exist in reality?
Yes, it does. Having lived in both India and the U.S., I know from personal
experience that it does in both these countries.
Secularism exists in both
Samir Kelekar wrote on Goanet:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Khawateen-cant-discard-purdah-for-politics/articleshow/5673989.cms
Marshall and Sandeep, defenders of freedom of speech, check this out.
Have some guts to write a while diatribe against this!
samir
In a secular democracy with full rights and liberties, one ought to be
free to do the following:
1. Voluntarily wear the burqa.
2. Use loudspeakers with the permission of the local community and authorities.
3. Impart religious education in private schools, not supported by tax
payer or public
Samir
With extremists and fundamentalists from both sides feeding on each other,
it is those who are caught in the middle who are the victims. Unfortunately,
we seem to have begun to accept that two wrongs make a right. We also seem
to suffer from an inferiority complex that we always seem to
Let me respond to each of the points made by Santosh:
In a secular democracy with full rights and liberties, one ought to be
free to do the following:
1. Voluntarily wear the burqa.
I agree but presently the Islamic society is allowing only a one-sided
propaganda which is what I strongly
Sandeep, I see your solutions and point of view as being centered
around a perspective which you accept as normal. That's the problem
with all of us on such issues. We let our own point of view decide
what is the norm, and then go about applying it to everyone! FN
PS: Is there some mischief
Secular and democracy means different things to different people.
Indian secularism is a different animal from the Western European one.
The West fumed when East Germany chose to call itself the German
*Democratic* Republic. The US sees itself as one big demoracy, and
India claims to be the
It looks like Sandeep and I agree on all issues below, except one. The only
point on which I disagree with him is on the freedom to impart and seek
peaceful religious education through private schools and institutions that are
not supported by tax payer money. I submit that in a secular
--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
Here again, the leftovers of our religious assumptions come
into play.
The above statement and the questions posed by Noronha tells me that either he
has not understood what I have written, or he is once again making up
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Khawateen-cant-discard-purdah-for-politics/articleshow/5673989.cms
Marshall and Sandeep, defenders of freedom of speech, check this out.
Have some guts to write a while diatribe against this!
samir
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