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From: augusto pinto pinto...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fast unto death
To: goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org
Date: Tuesday, 15 December, 2009, 5:28 PM
Bennet Paes wrote:
Augusto:
In my opinion, fasting unto death is the beginning of an
act of suicide in
slow motion
Bennet Paes wrote about the IPC 1890: Hello Augusto: I said, Indian
law might have been non-existent or not in force. Apparently, it was
existent, but not in force.
== ==
COMMENT: The phrase in/into force is set to mean 'effective'
The Indian Penal Code 1890 came 'into force' on January 1,
Bennet Paes wrote:
Augusto:
In my opinion, fasting unto death is the beginning of an act of suicide in
slow motion. And in my opinion, suicide, or attempted suicide, or for that
matter fast-unto-death, is cowardly,immoral and illegal. It is also so
under the present Indian law.
But it so
augusto pinto pinto...@gmail.com: wrote:
[1] When Gandhi went on his fasts unto death, the law of the land was more
or less the same as exists today. The Indian Penal Code of 1860 which is
still in force
[2] Well, the reason could be that what is legal is not always what is
moral;
, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote:
From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fast unto death
To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org
Date: Monday, 14 December, 2009, 8:41 AM
Bennet Paes wrote:
My contention is that any act
Suicide or fast unto death --- call it by whatever name, but in a philosophy
where man determines his/her own destiny (and not some external God who decides
it), it is not
just perfectly allright, but even important than one decides when one dies.
The concept of Samadhi originates from the
Bennet Paes wrote:
My contention is that any act that intentionally leads to one's death, or
for that matter to
anyone else's death, is criminal and should be punishable under the law.
I wonder what Mr. Paes thinks about a bloke named Mohandas Karamchand
Gandhi.
Just wondering
Augusto
--
2009/12/13 Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca:
Lets take the case of the Goan drunkard who has 10 beers and then
crashes his car/motor-bike into the nearest coconut tree, killing
himself. My QUESTION is: How are you going to punish this guy?
ANSWER:
I'd remind him of the modified Nunes principle:
and other political leaders were guilty of that crime.
Now you may form your own judgment about what I think.
Bennet
--- On Mon, 14/12/09, augusto pinto pinto...@gmail.com wrote:
From: augusto pinto pinto...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fast unto death
To: goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org
Date
In my opinion, hardly any.
Bennet
--- On Mon, 14/12/09, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote:
From: J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fast unto death
To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org
Date: Monday, 14 December, 2009, 7:44 PM
2009
2009/12/14 J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com
ANSWER:
I'd remind him of the modified Nunes principle: Thou shalt not have
that much of an interest in de beers
good wishes as always
jc
Well if you believe in diamonds then you should be long on De Beers.
http://www.debeersgroup.com/
2009/12/12 Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com:
Any person can end his life by Samadhi in
Hinduism and Buddhism, and by Santhara in
Jainism. A woman could end her life by Sati in
Hinduism before it was banned by secular law
Is Samadhi the same as suicide? Here's another view:
Here i'd like
--- On Sun, 12/13/09, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
Is Samadhi the same as suicide? Here's another view:
Here are the legal and medical definitions of suicide, which apply to the act
of taking a samadhi, prayopavesa or santhara:
Suicide - The voluntary and
Bennet Paes wrote:
My contention is that any act that intentionally leads to one’s death, or for
that matter to
anyone else’s death, is criminal and should be punishable under the law.
Bennet Paes,
I guess I am not following you here.
Lets take the case of the Goan drunkard who has 10
.
venantius j pinto
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:55:39 -0800 (PST)
From: From PAES bennetp...@yahoo.com
To: Goa Net goa...@goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet] Fast unto death
Message-ID: 990829.93499...@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com
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FAST UNTO DEATH
...@goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:25 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Fast unto death
FAST UNTO DEATH
Refusing to take food or drink is intentionally causing an act leading to
death. It is suicide. And suicide is criminal.
1) Therefore, fasting unto death is suicidal, and criminal.
2) Therefore
wrote:
From: Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com
Subject: [Goanet] Fast unto death
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Date: Saturday, 12 December, 2009, 11:52 AM
Among the whoever else: Could we apply these criteria to
Irom Chanu Sharmila
from Manipur. no, No, NO. I will not go further
--- On Sat, 12/12/09, From PAES bennetp...@yahoo.com wrote:
Does anyone have the right to end one’s life, even under any religion?
Any person can end his life by Samadhi in Hinduism and Buddhism, and by
Santhara in Jainism. A woman could end her life by Sati in Hinduism before it
was
Bennet PAES bennetp...@yahoo.com:
If someone goes on a fast, it’s fine. In fact it’s good for health.
But, if that someone, no matter who, and no matter what the motive is,
declares that the fast is unto death, i.e. he will fast until he dies,
it amounts to an act of suicide (although in slow
...@gmail.com wrote:
From: J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fast unto death
To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org
Date: Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 3:11 AM
Bennet PAES bennetp...@yahoo.com:
If someone goes on a fast, it’s fine. In fact
appreciate your being very clear in your stance. Frankly the airing,
and presenting of ones perspectives helps us understand each other better in
the Goanet universe. Thank you Bennett.
venantius
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fast unto death
Message-ID: 116992.35882...@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com
FAST UNTO DEATH
Refusing to take food or drink is intentionally causing an act leading to
death. It is suicide. And suicide is criminal.
1) Therefore, fasting unto death is suicidal, and criminal.
2) Therefore, it is a legal and moral obligation of the concerned authorities
to prevent death
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