Re: [Goanet] Tivim fort in ruins - Video and pics

2012-10-21 Thread joelds
Hi Joe,

Thanks for the beautiful pictures of the crumbling Tivim fort. Actually, it
is a chain of three forts, each having a different name. Of course, at the
Colvale side, it ends abruptly in the middle of nowhere. Yes, it is also
called the Colvale Fort at the northern end. In fact, well-known fashion
designer Wendell Rodricks will know better, as his ancestral house was very
close to the Fort perhaps within the fort itself. There was
a Fortikar's house there. It was in a slightly better shape when I had been
there about twenty years ago. Once they plant the 'green' metal board, the
concerned authorities feel that they have done their duty unfortunately.
Regards.
Joel.
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 JoeGoaUk wrote:

 Tivim fort


Re: [Goanet] Tivim fort in ruins - Video and pics

2012-10-21 Thread Valmiki Faleiro
Dear Mervyn,

I think both JoeGoaUK and you are right! There were forts in Tivim AND in
Colvale.
Let me explain.

Tivim fort was built in 1635 by Viceroy Miguel de Noronha, Count of
Linhares.
It was the largest fort built in Goa. But the Viceroy became more famous for
building the (then) longest causeway/bridge in Asia ... later christened the
Ponte de Linhares (now Patto), linking Ribandar and Panjim. He also
built
the St. Lawrence church atop the Aguada Plateau in Sinquerim, completed the
Se Cathedral and built the Hospital of Piety, both in the capital city (Old
Goa).

Two fortresses to the west of -- and auxiliary to -- the Tivim Fort, were
built in
1681 by Viceroy Francisco de Tavora, Count of Alvor, as a near contiguous
bulwark against the Marathas under Sambhaji (who anyway attacked two years
later, from three directions, with near disastrous results for the
Portuguese -- it
was a Goan woman in the Moghul court who saved the day but everyone thought
it was the intercession of St. Francis Xavier that helped), but I digress.
Conde de
Alvor also built the fort at Anjediva, reinforced the one at Rachol, and
for long chased
his pet project to shift the capital city from Ella (Old Goa) to Mormugao.

Hope that helps. Colvale has an important place in Goa's Portuguese-era
history,
as does Cuncolim in the south -- both bore the brunt of initial attack by
Bijapuris and
later the Marathas.

Regards, v
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 JoeGoaUk wrote:

 Tivim fort
 Video 19.10.12
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW1qKzpTONo

 More pics here
 http://joegoauk.blogspot.in/2012/10/tivim-fort-goa.html
 -

 Joe,
 Thanks for these pictures.
 I am from Colvale.
 I was always told that this was the Colvale Fort.

 I have even been in a dug out canoe from the Tar in Colvale, up the
 creek, to the ruins of this fort which lies half way to Tivim. Is there
 anyone here who can shed some light on this?


 Mervyn



Re: [Goanet] Tivim fort in ruins - Video and pics

2012-10-21 Thread Jean Marcos Catao

Mervyn,
   You are right. It was the Colvale Fort.
   My greatgrandfather, Major Jose Caetano Gomes, was the last 
Commandant of the fort before its deactivation and his transfer as the first 
Commandant of Mapuca.

(probably around 1850).

Marcos Gomes-Catao
cata...@yahoo.com



From: Mervyn Lobo

Joe,
Thanks for these pictures.
I am from Colvale.?
I was always told that this was the Colvale Fort.

I have even been in a dug out canoe from the Tar in Colvale, up the creek, 
to the ruins of this fort which lies half way to Tivim.?Is there anyone here 
who can shed some light on this? 



[Goanet] Tivim fort in ruins - Video and pics

2012-10-20 Thread JoeGoaUk
Tivim fort
Video 19.10.12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW1qKzpTONo

More pics here
http://joegoauk.blogspot.in/2012/10/tivim-fort-goa.html

Tunnel 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104076164/sizes/l/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104076164/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104081184/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104070115/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104086046/in/photostream/

Inside of the tunnel
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104082384/sizes/c/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104081748/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104067981/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104068607/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104069107/in/photostream/

Walls etc with wild growth
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104070966/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104060497/sizes/l/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104073036/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104054251/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104080464/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104073077/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104088948/in/photostream/

This wall is to the right of the main road
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104076405/sizes/l/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104092356/in/photostream/

Protected?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104089646/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104098310/in/photostream/

Neglected
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104090278/in/photostream/

Gate /Arch /entrance / door
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104053453/in/photostream/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104067602/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104073036/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104073890/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104074632/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104060497/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104062347/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104063461/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104087066/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104096086/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104096836/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104082519/in/photostream/


a well
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104056759/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104055079/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104057383/in/photostream/


to  the right of the  Tivim – Colvale Road
As if the road passing through the fort
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104076405/in/photostream/

Road houses etc
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104875580/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104877398/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104879298/in/photostream


St. Michael Chapel nearby
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104051615/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104077881/in/photostream/

Cross in front
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104094178/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104095242/in/photostream/


with main road to Colvale
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104084089/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104099936/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104100814/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk61/8104101632/in/photostream/


Video 19.10.12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW1qKzpTONo

More pics here /blog
http://joegoauk.blogspot.in/2012/10/tivim-fort-goa.html

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Re: [Goanet] Tivim fort in ruins - Video and pics

2012-10-20 Thread Mervyn Lobo
JoeGoaUk wrote:

Tivim fort
Video 19.10.12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW1qKzpTONo

More pics here
http://joegoauk.blogspot.in/2012/10/tivim-fort-goa.html
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Joe,
Thanks for these pictures.
I am from Colvale. 
I was always told that this was the Colvale Fort.

I have even been in a dug out canoe from the Tar in Colvale, up the creek, to 
the ruins of this fort which lies half way to Tivim. Is there anyone here who 
can shed some light on this?


Mervyn