Re: [Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- --- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, my real worry is about the assertive stance of the Catholic Church to evangelise in India/Asia etc. I do not want this precisely for the reasons you have identified. This generates real fear in me because the approach is pretty provocative I think. Mario observes: Cornel, I thought you were the one who is receptive to all kinds of knowledge all of which you consider to be provisional. Now you are telling us that someone else in India or Asia being provided with knowledge about Christianity is provocative and somehow generates real fear in you. What is provocative about one being provided with information that one can choose to accept or deny, as long as this not done in an aggressive, coercive or personally intrusive way? Fear?! What are you fearful of? Are you trying to skew the debate with such verbal histrionics? I think what you really fear is that they will become Christians and accept the rock solid Christian moral code. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Elisabeth I do agree with you that we cant be removing scabs off healing wounds and let them bleed again (and make a mess!) but has it been established that temples were razed to the ground to make room for churches? If the answer is yes then has this destruction been documented and included in our school history books? Like you I haven't been following this discussion. Helga Perhaps Hindu temples were destroyed. Perhaps churches were built atop temples. All of that happened in the social and political context of that era. We as Christians today, cannot bear responsibility for it. Communal tolerance in Goa today is tenuous to say the least. The air is thick with tension, especially in certain parts of Goa. Two years back even a benign feast like the Bonderan feast was politicised and religious tension stoked. It didn't take long for the Babri Mosque to fall. It won't take long before the legitimacy of our churches is called into question. Yes, it is nice to sit in our NRI lounge chairs and debate about issues, but in our zeal to debate our point of view, let us also show some restraint and responsibility. Elisabeth __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- --- Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean to be Chicken Little here, but in a moment I will seem to be. I haven't followed the discussion about Catholic Churches being built atop Hindu temples in its entirety, just in bits and pieces. While I certainly don't want to advise anyone on what to discuss, I think in the political climate that we live in today. Christians have to show some responsibility in the assertions that they make. Mario adds: Elisabeth, Very well said indeed, with one small correction. It is not practicing Christians who are making the assertions but former Christians who are well known on Goanet for Christian-bashing. Mario. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Dear Elisabeth, Your letter is not a day too late! It is so nice, so concise, so much food for thought. It says it all. I don't know why Goanet allows the same old issues to be raked up again and again, as if one derives a masochistic pleasure in licking one's own past wounds, further lending ammunition to one's own newfound enemies. Everytime such unnecessary debates are revived, I live in agony, all the more so because of the vitiated communal atmosphere in which we live in our otherwise peaceful State, and look askance: Why, why, I keep asking? As you rightly put it: Perhaps Hindu temples were destroyed. Perhaps churches were built atop temples. All of that happened in the social and political context of that era. We as Christians today, cannot bear responsibility for it. Communal tolerance in Goa today is tenuous to say the least. The air is thick with tension, especially in certain parts of Goa. Two years back even a benign feast like the Bonderan feast was politicised and religious tension stoked. I can give many many more examples like the one you quote above. You have rightly said it, It is high time that we all act with responsibility and restraint. The editors of Goanet also must share the blame for allowing such unhealthy debates to go on and on in a repetitive and unending manner. Dr. Francisco Colaco = --- Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear fellow posters, I don't mean to be Chicken Little here, but in a moment I will seem to be. I haven't followed the discussion about Catholic Churches being built atop Hindu temples in its entirety, just in bits and pieces. While I certainly don't want to advise anyone on what to discuss, I think in the political climate that we live in today. Christians have to show some responsibility in the assertions that they make. Perhaps Hindu temples were destroyed. Perhaps churches were built atop temples. All of that happened in the social and political context of that era. We as Christians today, cannot bear responsibility for it. Communal tolerance in Goa today is tenuous to say the least. The air is thick with tension, especially in certain parts of Goa. Two years back even a benign feast like the Bonderan feast was politicised and religious tension stoked. It didn't take long for the Babri Mosque to fall. It won't take long before the legitimacy of our churches is called into question. Yes, it is nice to sit in our NRI lounge chairs and debate about issues, but in our zeal to debate our point of view, let us also show some restraint and responsibility. Elisabeth __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Dear Cornel, I too agree with your position on evangelisation. Infact I am against evangelisation by any religion or sect. Goa, particularly has to be very careful about being evangelised into the Believers ideology but that is another post and another hobby horse of mine to ride. Elisabeth --- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, my real worry is about the assertive stance of the Catholic Church to evangelise in India/Asia etc. I do not want this precisely for the reasons you have identified. This generates real fear in me because the approach is pretty provocative I think. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- On 19/06/06, Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear fellow posters, I don't mean to be Chicken Little here, but in a moment I will seem to be. I haven't followed the discussion about Catholic Churches being built atop Hindu temples in its entirety, just in bits and pieces. While I certainly don't want to advise anyone on what to discuss, I think in the political climate that we live in today. Christians have to show some responsibility in the assertions that they make. RESPONSE: Now that was indeed an nice responsible post; while not wanting to hide our past, it certainly does not behove us, to publicly wear sack cloth and ashes and parade around Margao Bazaar, extolling sins committed and apologizing for the past. This has already been done many, many times before and we acknowledge it. Let us now move forward ! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] The Dangers of certain topics (relating to Churches)
Dear fellow posters, I don't mean to be Chicken Little here, but in a moment I will seem to be. I haven't followed the discussion about Catholic Churches being built atop Hindu temples in its entirety, just in bits and pieces. While I certainly don't want to advise anyone on what to discuss, I think in the political climate that we live in today. Christians have to show some responsibility in the assertions that they make. Perhaps Hindu temples were destroyed. Perhaps churches were built atop temples. All of that happened in the social and political context of that era. We as Christians today, cannot bear responsibility for it. Communal tolerance in Goa today is tenuous to say the least. The air is thick with tension, especially in certain parts of Goa. Two years back even a benign feast like the Bonderan feast was politicised and religious tension stoked. It didn't take long for the Babri Mosque to fall. It won't take long before the legitimacy of our churches is called into question. Yes, it is nice to sit in our NRI lounge chairs and debate about issues, but in our zeal to debate our point of view, let us also show some restraint and responsibility. Elisabeth __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
