* Marvin Renich [200619 11:17]:
> You post a banner within the Go community that is off topic and is
^
Just to be clear, the "you" in this paragraph is not you, Ian,
personally. I am referring collectively to the maintainers of the web
sites and mailing lists in their official capacities.
* Ian Lance Taylor [200619 00:20]:
> It's an important discussion, but having it on golang-nuts is not working.
>
> It can continue off-list.
You post a banner within the Go community that is off topic and is
highly controversial (this thread is clear evidence of that). You then
squelch
I should rephrase that, "it's an important discussion *for this
community*" and I think it's as important to expose this community to it
as it is any other.
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020, at 00:20, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 9:04 PM Sam Whited wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020,
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 9:04 PM Sam Whited wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020, at 22:00, 人间不值得 wrote:
> > I thought, Everyone live matters. not just only Black. (White,
> > yellow..) Did their lives matter?
>
> Of course they do. You seem, deliberately or not, to be missing the
> obvious but
Know your audience, and read the room.
The message and how the message is delivered are distinct.
Not executing on the latter obscures the former.
Clearly this is a common problem for many on this subject.
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 11:04 PM, Sam Whited wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020, at
Please respect my request to let this thread drop.
Thank you.
Ian
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I thought, Everyone live matters. not just only Black. (White, yellow..)
Did their lives matter?
Golang stand only for black live matters. What about your country , you
people. Russ cox, You are white, did you live matters?
peterGo於 2020年6月14日星期日 UTC+8下午9時36分38秒寫道：
>
> Recently, a political
This thread is visibly not working.
I would like to ask everyone to do their very best to let this thread
drop. Please do not try to get the last word.
If you absolutely must continue, I strongly encourage you to take it
to private e-mail, off the list.
This applies to everyone, regardless of
On 6/16/20 09:04, 'Thomas Bushnell, BSG' via golang-nuts wrote:
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 11:51 AM 'K Richard Pixley' via golang-nuts
mailto:golang-nuts@googlegroups.com>>
wrote:
I do not agree with the Rust team. I would prefer to make my
technology decisions based on technological
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 11:51 AM 'K Richard Pixley' via golang-nuts <
golang-nuts@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> I do not agree with the Rust team. I would prefer to make my technology
> decisions based on technological criterion. But if you force me to make
> that decision based on your religion,
On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 11:52:10 AM UTC-4, K Richard Pixley wrote:
>
> There is agreement on the code of conduct. There is not agreement on the
> banner. IMO, the banner is out of line with the goals of this group and
> with the code of conduct. It's inappropriate. It needs to be
On 6/16/20 5:00 AM, Russ Cox wrote:
...I will quote from the Code of Conduct here – “regardless of gender
identity and expression, sexual orientation, disabilities,
neurodiversity, physical appearance, body size, ethnicity,
nationality, race, age, religion, or similar personal
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 10:41 AM Space A. wrote:
>
> Are you saying you don't care about the rest of the World? This
> "situation" does not affect in any way many many gophers which have to deal
> with much more serious problems than you could imagine, on a daily basis.
> There are a lot of
Raise your hand if you think black lives don't matter?
Raise your hand if you think "[providing] legal representation to prisoners
who may have been wrongly convicted of crimes, poor prisoners without
effective representation, and others who may have been denied a fair
trial." is a bad thing?
> To people who object to the banner as too focused on the United States:
> Google and Go both started here, nearly all of the Go team is here, a
> substantial number of Go community members live here, and many others
> travel here for conferences or other reasons. The situation here affects
Hi everyone,
I wanted to reply here to acknowledge the feedback on this thread. I hear
those of you who are uncomfortable with the banner, and I appreciate the
honest and mostly constructive discussion here.
As the Rust team said well, tech is and will always be political, not in
the sense of
After all (I think this has been discussed already ), who is owner of the
Golang Project ? Isn't this supposed to be an open source / community based
project ?
What about mine political ideas, can I put them also on golang's front
page, since I am part of the community ?
Where will we end up
On 6/16/20 2:43 PM, Sam Whited wrote:
So you're suggesting that because we can't help all people all of the
time we should help no one at any time? That is a logical fallacy. Right
now in this moment there are protests all over the world about a
specific issue, so yes, a specific cause is being
So you're suggesting that because we can't help all people all of the
time we should help no one at any time? That is a logical fallacy. Right
now in this moment there are protests all over the world about a
specific issue, so yes, a specific cause is being supported because the
time is right, and
On 6/15/20 9:48 PM, Space A. wrote:
Because there are hundreds or thousands of initiatives to support
suffering and dying people in African, Asian, Eastern European, and
what else countries that will never be supported by top banner at
golang.org.
That's right.
On Monday, June 15,
A simple message was posted: "Black Lives Matter. Support the Equal Justice
Initiative".
I understand that this is controversial to say in some quarters. I am
saddened that this is controversial to say here.
Rust developers succinctly captured why it is appropo to say in
The Go community includes programmers of all races, nationalities and
cultures.
Every member of the community has the right to go about their daily lives
without
being killed by the police force.
I applaud the decisions of the Go team to take a public stand in favour of
this right.
I am
I agree with previous posts pointing out that "black lives matter" is not a
political message. In fact, it isn't even a social message. It's a
statement of fact. Please leave the banner up.
On Sunday, 14 June 2020 06:36:38 UTC-7, peterGo wrote:
>
> Recently, a political message with a
Because there are hundreds or thousands of initiatives to support suffering
and dying people in African, Asian, Eastern European, and what else
countries that will never be supported by top banner at golang.org.
On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 4:33:05 PM UTC+3, Sam Whited wrote:
>
> Why is it
Why is it disrespectful to the rest of the world? In what way does
supporting the Black Lives Matter movement and an important not-for-
profit diminish from other problems that also need solving?
One of my neighbors recently put it this way: would you walk up to
someone at a breast cancer
Agree with Peter. It's not the right place and time and disrespectful for
the rest of the World. You don't even imagine what problems, social or
political, people who live far away from US face each and every day.
On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 4:36:38 PM UTC+3, peterGo wrote:
>
> Recently, a
This is political hijacking of the Golang project, I am disgusted !
On Sunday, 14 June 2020 14:36:38 UTC+1, peterGo wrote:
>
> Recently, a political message with a fundraising link appeared as a banner
> atop golang.org websites: https://golang.org/, https://pkg.go.dev/.
>
>
I agree with Peter's sentiment here.
On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 3:36:38 PM UTC+2, peterGo wrote:
>
> Recently, a political message with a fundraising link appeared as a banner
> atop golang.org websites: https://golang.org/, https://pkg.go.dev/.
>
> content/static: add Black Lives Matter banner
I, for one, applaud the posting of the banner.
Solidarity!
On Sunday, 14 June 2020 14:36:38 UTC+1, peterGo wrote:
>
> Recently, a political message with a fundraising link appeared as a banner
> atop golang.org websites: https://golang.org/, https://pkg.go.dev/.
>
> content/static: add Black
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