Re: [go-nuts] Re: [ANN] Unik, a Go unikernel capable of running Gio GUI programs

2020-04-14 Thread Elias Naur
On Mon Apr 13, 2020 at 2:06 PM, Brian Candler wrote:
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> On Monday, 13 April 2020 19:42:17 UTC+1, Elias Naur wrote:
> >
> > The project is an experiment in a larger exploration of the question: 
> > "what if the operating
> > system process abstraction were a virtual machine?
> >
>
> Interesting.
>
> BTW, have you seen gVisor ? It takes a
> different
> approach to the problem: emulating the syscall interface on top of a
> running kernel, rather than on top of (real or emulated) bare metal. I
> was
> reminded of it since it also "pretends to be a Linux kernel" - and is
> written in Go.
>

Yes. gVisor is similar in many ways and I hope to re-use parts of it, 
for example their Go network stack implementation.

The main difference is that I want to avoid the Linux kernel, or any
kernel for that matter.

-- elias

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Re: [go-nuts] Re: [ANN] Unik, a Go unikernel capable of running Gio GUI programs

2020-04-14 Thread Elias Naur
On Mon Apr 13, 2020 at 4:15 PM, Michael Jones wrote:
> IBM VM/370 and much that followed is exactly this “VM is a hardware
> abstraction” line of reasoning. Logging into a user session was to
> “IPL a
> machine.” (Initial Program Load, imagine an IBM PC bios screen rushing
> by)
>

Exactly. It was embarrassing to re-discover the virtues of past
computing.

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Re: [go-nuts] Re: [ANN] Unik, a Go unikernel capable of running Gio GUI programs

2020-04-13 Thread Michael Jones
IBM VM/370 and much that followed is exactly this “VM is a hardware
abstraction” line of reasoning. Logging into a user session was to “IPL a
machine.” (Initial Program Load, imagine an IBM PC bios screen rushing by)

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 2:06 PM Brian Candler  wrote:

> On Monday, 13 April 2020 19:42:17 UTC+1, Elias Naur wrote:
>>
>> The project is an experiment in a larger exploration of the question:
>> "what if the operating
>> system process abstraction were a virtual machine?
>>
>
> Interesting.
>
> BTW, have you seen gVisor ?  It takes a
> different approach to the problem: emulating the syscall interface on top
> of a running kernel, rather than on top of (real or emulated) bare metal.
> I was reminded of it since it also "pretends to be a Linux kernel" - and is
> written in Go.
>
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[go-nuts] Re: [ANN] Unik, a Go unikernel capable of running Gio GUI programs

2020-04-13 Thread Brian Candler
On Monday, 13 April 2020 19:42:17 UTC+1, Elias Naur wrote:
>
> The project is an experiment in a larger exploration of the question: 
> "what if the operating
> system process abstraction were a virtual machine?
>

Interesting.

BTW, have you seen gVisor ?  It takes a different 
approach to the problem: emulating the syscall interface on top of a 
running kernel, rather than on top of (real or emulated) bare metal.  I was 
reminded of it since it also "pretends to be a Linux kernel" - and is 
written in Go.

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