RE: [google-appengine] Re: Feature Request For Scheduler

2011-12-22 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Besides feature requests like that end with Skynet. From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of voscausa Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:58 AM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Feature Request For Sched

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Feature Request For Scheduler

2011-12-22 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Ok, but describe the method for doing it. You can't just tack on "Let it learn from previous requests" and get a patent. If so I want a lot of them. Build a Car and Let it learn from previous requests. Build a Robot Maid and Let it learn from previous requests Build a search engine

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Feature Request For Scheduler

2011-12-22 Thread Gopal Patel
+1 , i wonder if they are already doing it ? On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:28 PM, voscausa wrote: > I'll add another patent. Make it inteligent, let it learn from previous > requests. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > T

[google-appengine] Re: Understanding 'Frontend Instance Hours'

2011-12-22 Thread stevep
Be sure you do not have something that is periodically creating a burst of tasks into a task queue. I believe the scheduler responds to this by thinking, "Wow. I've got a lot of tasks to clear as soon as possible." This could be very detrimental to your instance counts as you may get a burst of ins

[google-appengine] How to delete Error index

2011-12-22 Thread Jack
index marked error, i don't know to delete them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubsc

[google-appengine] Re: What are folks using for Backup?

2011-12-22 Thread Maximillian Dornseif
On Dec 7, 4:05 pm, Brandon Donnelson wrote: > What are folks using for backups of datastore? I use https://gist.github.com/950846 http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/msg/09e41a73e8ccd32b has some background on the issue (but terrible fomating). --md -- You received this message

[google-appengine] Re: 0 applications remaining

2011-12-22 Thread sb
You could sign up for an extra google/gmail account, then start another app engine account. But it might be against the rules. And if you do sign up for another account make sure you add your original account as admin to all your apps so you can manage them from all from one account. Not that I wo

[google-appengine] 0 applications remaining

2011-12-22 Thread Madhukar
Hi, I currently have 0 applications remaining in my account. I can't delete any existing apps as I'm using them (some are paid apps). I'm working on 2 new ones right now and want to deploy them soon. Could someone from Google please add a few more on my account? Thanks. -- You received thi

Re: [google-appengine] Re: DeadlineExceeded errors haunting every now and then

2011-12-22 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
You can run the first step that won't do the full migration. The way the tool works is like this: 1. Copy all your data without putting the source app into read-only mode so you can continue serving 2. Ask you if you want to put the app into read-only mode (just don't do this) 3. Copy the delta (c

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Understanding 'Frontend Instance Hours'

2011-12-22 Thread Barry Hunter
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:36 PM, KK wrote: > Thanks every one for the responses. > > Since it is going to be at least 24 frontend instance hours in a day if > there is steady traffic to my app. What are the guidelines I can follow in > my app to reduce the number of frontend isntance hours above 2

[google-appengine] favicon.ico errors

2011-12-22 Thread KK
Hi, I have created favicon.ico file and put in the static/images directory of my app. I have also added the following to the app.yaml file - url: /favicon\.ico static_files: static/images/favicon.ico upload: static/images/favicon\.ico Still, I do not see favicon.ico displayed by the browse

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Understanding 'Frontend Instance Hours'

2011-12-22 Thread KK
Thanks every one for the responses. Since it is going to be at least 24 frontend instance hours in a day if there is steady traffic to my app. What are the guidelines I can follow in my app to reduce the number of frontend isntance hours above 24? Would things like setting setting cache header

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Understanding 'Frontend Instance Hours'

2011-12-22 Thread Barry Hunter
Yes. An instance is kept there ready to server traffic, so it costs Google money - so it costs you too. But of course that 24 hours (plus the extra 4) is free. On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:15 PM, KK wrote: > That's interesting. > > So, if my app just prints "Welcome!" and does nothing else. And if

[google-appengine] Re: Understanding 'Frontend Instance Hours'

2011-12-22 Thread Gerald Tan
Yes. So in this case I'd even recommend setting min idle instance to 1 too So that the "Welcome!" message doesn't need to wait for an instance to warmup before appearing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussi

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Understanding 'Frontend Instance Hours'

2011-12-22 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Yes. Unless you set your cache headers to 60 minutes then it will be 6 hours at the end of the day. (even if there is a request every second. From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of KK Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:15 AM To: google

[google-appengine] Re: Understanding 'Frontend Instance Hours'

2011-12-22 Thread KK
That's interesting. So, if my app just prints "Welcome!" and does nothing else. And if there is a request every 15mins., the front-end instance hours will be 24 at the end of the day? Thanks Krishna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Eng

[google-appengine] Many happier holidays

2011-12-22 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Maybe you all got these… But in case you didn’t, I thought I’d share this beautiful e-card from Google. And because they know how bad this Holiday is, they are wishing me Happier ones in the future. ;-) From: Google [mailto:nore...@google.com] Sent: None To: drak...@digerat.com Subject:

Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE for a web based MMORPG

2011-12-22 Thread James Jones
you could some how off load the data store to a memcache or hadoop instance instance in EC2, but you have, but you have to run all the queries and writes over https scripts that interacts with the storage engine in ec2. It would most likely have a performance hit . I have done similar type of solut

Re: [google-appengine] Re: DeadlineExceeded errors haunting every now and then

2011-12-22 Thread Dennis Fogg
Since the migration tool is still experimental, I want to try making copies of my data before migrating. Thus, I need to enable the datastore admin. On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Ikai Lan (Google) wrote: > Don't use that tool. Use the migration tool that's available when you > click "Applica

Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE for a web based MMORPG

2011-12-22 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Clarification: I'm talking about this, of course, as well as enabling people to build Android/Chrome games: http://www.google.com/+/learnmore/games/ -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine plus.ikailan.com | twitter.com/ikai On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Ikai Lan (Google

Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE for a web based MMORPG

2011-12-22 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
The "game" being worked on is the opposite of what Brandon describes. We are definitely working on games in Google+ and yes we ARE hiring: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/search/index.html# -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine plus.ikailan.com | twitter.com/ikai On Th

Re: [google-appengine] Re: DeadlineExceeded errors haunting every now and then

2011-12-22 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Don't use that tool. Use the migration tool that's available when you click "Application Settings" and "View Migration Tool" on that page. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine plus.ikailan.com | twitter.com/ikai On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Dennis wrote: > I'm lookin

[google-appengine] Re: Understanding 'Frontend Instance Hours'

2011-12-22 Thread Gerald Tan
There's no way to make sure that your app uses only one instance. Setting max idle instance ensures that you will be changed for a maximum of 1 idle instance. If traffic goes up, the the scheduler may spin up extra instances, however you are only charged for "Max Idle Instance + Active Instance

[google-appengine] Re: Understanding 'Frontend Instance Hours'

2011-12-22 Thread KK
Thanks for your reply. So, you mean 4 requests per hour that are perfectly spread out can cause 1 instance hour. Right? So, if I only have ONE instance all the time, it would only mean 24 instance hours in a day and I would never exceed the quota. How do I make sure that my app only uses one in

[google-appengine] Re: Blobstore Downloads using IE seeing errors connecting to appspot

2011-12-22 Thread Joseph Letness
Hi Will, your probably sending your blobs without a properly formatted header response. I had this same problem when I was testing content types and I inadvertently left the content_type header undeclared. Every other browser worked fine but IE was broken (apparently IE is the only browser that ca

[google-appengine] Re: Understanding 'Frontend Instance Hours'

2011-12-22 Thread Simon Knott
Hi, If an instance is spun up, then you will use up 15mins of Frontend instance hours automatically for spinning up the instance. So if those 200 requests are fairly spread out over the 18 hours then it's more than possible to use 50% of your quota. See http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/bi

Re: [google-appengine] should i make a web application like Thunderbird ?

2011-12-22 Thread Barry Hunter
Certainly it should be possible to host the server component of a complex application like webmail on AppEngine. Sort of thing its generally pretty much designed for. The front end would probably be in javascript - so the heavy lifting runs on the users browser. This is how gmail works for instan

Re: [google-appengine] Understanding 'Frontend Instance Hours'

2011-12-22 Thread Andreas
the instance hours could be that high because of different reasons. for example your code is not optimized and consumes more resources than it should or you did not set the instances to a specific number in the application settings and multiple instances spin up and consume more than it would be

[google-appengine] Python Weekly

2011-12-22 Thread Rahul
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[google-appengine] should i make a web application like Thunderbird ?

2011-12-22 Thread wahaha
make a web application like Thunderbird,does it possible on? technically possible? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send

[google-appengine] Understanding 'Frontend Instance Hours'

2011-12-22 Thread KK
Hi, My dashboard shows that my apps's Frontend Instance Hours is more than 50% in about 18 hours and it has only received about 200 requests. Frontend Instance Hours [image: 53%] 53%14.90 of 28.00 Instance HoursOkay I am not sure how the number of instance hours could be so high for such a sma

[google-appengine] how to use a existing database file?

2011-12-22 Thread wahaha
there is a database file need by my web app.my solution is that i export the data into a text file and parse the content to entities. is there another solution? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send ema

[google-appengine] Re: Sending email without warning "This message may not have been sent by..."

2011-12-22 Thread Chris
I have the same problem. Anyone know a good workaround for this? On Dec 21, 6:41 am, Ice13ill wrote: > Just to be clear: the email is sent with no problems. The warning > "This message may not have been sent by..." ("Learn more" "Report > phishing")   is displayed when a user (that belongs to th

Re: [google-appengine] Re: problem with PersistenceManager singleton on sdk 1.6.0 and 1.6.1

2011-12-22 Thread Leandro Rezende
probably u will have to delete the old JAR files from your project... i dont remember the full path at moment, but i guess its \web\src\lib 2011/12/22 aegis > According to datanucleus on stackoverflow, "It means some GAE internal > API seems different (not JDO, but their JDO plugin calls down to

[google-appengine] Re: problem with PersistenceManager singleton on sdk 1.6.0 and 1.6.1

2011-12-22 Thread aegis
According to datanucleus on stackoverflow, "It means some GAE internal API seems different (not JDO, but their JDO plugin calls down to it); needs comment from some Google person." can some google person comment on this? the post on stackoverflow. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8595485/fubar-a

[google-appengine] Re: Stuck delete in progress from Datastore Admin due to out of quota

2011-12-22 Thread andrew
Sorry guys, I now relaize the phrase "development server" is confusing in appengine context. I mean "an app ID that I use for development and test purposes", NOT a local dev server... Hence the comments about quota, dashboard, admin panel etc... Still Stuck... Google, any response? -- You rece

RE: [google-appengine] Re: GAE for a web based MMORPG

2011-12-22 Thread Brandon Wirtz
They are... it is called see how much spam can make it in the search index so people have to click on ads, with out frustrating them enough to switch to Bing. It is very Massive Much more so than WoW and the Shards are very small, and no Parties are allowed. You can craft your own results, but th

Re: [google-appengine] Download code

2011-12-22 Thread Abhishek Mathur
Here is the command : appcfg.py download_app -A ** -V ** --Abhishek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to go

[google-appengine] Re: GAE for a web based MMORPG

2011-12-22 Thread Paul
Ikai Lan: Is Google secretly working on some game project? Are you hiring? :P Jeff Schnitzer: Maybe one day GAE will develop in a way that will allow games like that written in Go... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To po

Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE for a web based MMORPG

2011-12-22 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
And it's still running! Jeff On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Brandon Wirtz wrote: > Ultima Online. Daily Downtime. No Voice Communication. Changed the Sharding > system at least 4 times in the beta...Rule changes with every patch... > That was the wild west...  I killed Lord British, Rendered