Re: [google-appengine] Re: Future of dev_appserver.py - deprecated?

2019-06-17 Thread 'Nicolas (Google Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine
Hi, I totally agree with you, we have to make App Engine the easiest and most intuitive experience the developer that's why in the second generation we made it easier to run

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Future of dev_appserver.py - deprecated?

2019-06-16 Thread dir Ls
The purpose of app engine standard is so developers can focus no the app and not worry about the rest. To me, dev_appserver.py is a pre-req to encourage app developers to get on to GCP very easily. Hope App Engine Standard itself is not going to get deprecated! On Friday, June 14, 2019 at

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Future of dev_appserver.py - deprecated?

2019-06-14 Thread 'Andrew Gorcester' via Google App Engine
We don't have a replacement for that functionality yet, but I'll record that that's a missing link for people migrating. Thank you! On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 3:02 PM Nicolas Grilly wrote: > On Friday, June 14, 2019 at 11:10:21 PM UTC+2, Andrew Gorcester wrote: >> >> If you don't mind me asking,

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Future of dev_appserver.py - deprecated?

2019-06-14 Thread Nicolas Grilly
On Friday, June 14, 2019 at 11:10:21 PM UTC+2, Andrew Gorcester wrote: > > If you don't mind me asking, what are the features of dev_appserver.py > that are still useful with the newer runtimes, which do not have App > Engine-specific APIs and client libraries that dev_appserver was originally

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Future of dev_appserver.py - deprecated?

2019-06-14 Thread 'Andrew Gorcester' via Google App Engine
The recommended alternative is to use what is idiomatic for your framework or other development process, as you would outside of Google Cloud. This is now possible because we no longer require the use of App Engine-specific APIs, handlers definitions, etc. However, dev_appserver.py did have some

[google-appengine] Re: Future of dev_appserver.py - deprecated?

2019-06-14 Thread James Crowley
If there are alternatives I'm missing this would be awesome? The feedback cycle is super slow when testing Google cloud specific code when it takes 30 seconds+ to update a running app (and that's ignoring the downsides of only being able to work online) Thanks J On Friday, 14 June 2019

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Future of dev_appserver.py - deprecated?

2019-06-14 Thread 'Andrew Gorcester' via Google App Engine
We're aiming to build all of our new runtimes so that they don't require dev_appserver.py, by making them support the same APIs and idiomatic local development practices that one would use on any platform. If you don't mind me asking, what are the features of dev_appserver.py that are still useful

[google-appengine] Re: Future of dev_appserver.py - deprecated?

2019-06-14 Thread 'Nicolas (Google Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine
Hi James, Thanks for opening this thread, To answer your question you are right the dev_appserver.py is not supported with the PHP 7.2 and PHP 7.3 runtimes. To test your app