@Greg
I felt the need to reply on the topic of what GWT is/does...
What (Java) devs think GWT is/does...
*** Removes the need for them to understand ANY front end web
technologies (e.g. HTML, Javascript, DOM, CSS + xbrowser differences)
***
All of our Java developers (where I work) have found
Jeff,
My point is, why isn't that stuff in the JavaDoc? Assigns a Handler
for a KeyPressEvent. It is fired, once, whenever a key is pressed
down and then released. With, perhaps, a link to the W3C definition
of a KeyPress.
The person writing that code needs to know that, yes? And probably
has
If I knew JavaScript and DOM, or, for that matter, even WANTED to know
JavaScript and DOM, I wouldn't be using GWT, I'd be writing the
JavaScript myself. No?
No.
Abstractions do not work for these kind of things.
It's not a matter of abstractions, it's a matter of explanations.
IMAO,
Hi Greg,
I have been in IT for a very long time. You see, I am what the youngins
sometimes refer to as an ol' fart :). As a matter of fact, I've been a
developer in one form or another for so long that everything else prior to
that seems to me to be prehistory - a vague sense of something there
Hi Jeff,
If it ever comes to be the situation that the only way I can do
programming is on the web, then I'll waste the time to learn the
current iteration of web programming. But life is currently not so
dim or dreary, and doesn't look to be that way any time soon. (And if
I am going to take
Good luck!
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Greg Dougherty
dougherty.greg...@mayo.eduwrote:
Hi Jeff,
If it ever comes to be the situation that the only way I can do
programming is on the web, then I'll waste the time to learn the
current iteration of web programming. But life is currently
Greg - I admire your position on the quality of documentation.
IMO, a measure of a sw engineer is not how much arcana he knows but rather
knowing where to find it.
Javadocs have long been a great source for the many of the details that I
face daily although they typically suck for usability.
A
As one who writes documentation professionally, I see the impedance mismatch
between Greg's desires and Javadoc. AFAICT, Greg wants to know why;
Javadoc describes how. A toolkit that evolves as rapidly as GWT does not
lend itself to in-depth why documentation.
I see that the GWT team puts
On 3 déc, 20:50, Greg Dougherty dougherty.greg...@mayo.edu wrote:
Jeff,
Thank you. That' lets me know which one I want to use.
If I knew JavaScript and DOM, or, for that matter, even WANTED to know
JavaScript and DOM, I wouldn't be using GWT, I'd be writing the
JavaScript myself. No?
You are welcome, Greg. In the future, whenever you are unsure about an event
type, check the documentation out at W3C's site for a starter as many GWT
events map 1 to 1 to DOM javascript events. By reading up on the javascript
event it will shed light on the GWT side of things. There are other
KeyPress - triggered when the user presses a key and releases it (key down
and then key up)
KeyDown - triggered when the user presses the key (key down)
Perhaps the documentation assumes some prior knowledge of javascript and dom
events and though GWT tries to shield the developer from much of it
It can help to remember that GWT generates JavaScript, so GWT concepts
(widgets, events, etc) generally map pretty much directly to
JavaScript concepts.
In this case, you can start with a google search for those events:
http://www.google.com/search?q=keydown+keypress+keyup
The first item in
Jeff,
Thank you. That' lets me know which one I want to use.
If I knew JavaScript and DOM, or, for that matter, even WANTED to know
JavaScript and DOM, I wouldn't be using GWT, I'd be writing the
JavaScript myself. No?
The whole point of using something like GWT is that it lets a Java
Hi Greg,
Prior to joining Google, I thought (and still do think) that the GWT
developer guides are actually pretty rich for an open source project and
many of the Javadocs, too. Of course, there are always holes and we welcome
constructive feedback through the issue tracker.
GWT is open source,
Greg,
For what it's worth, I had very similar feelings when I ran into a very
similar problem. (I was trying to get consistent behavior when pressing
enter or tab. Tab is a tricky one because different browsers do different
things with different events to handle element focus. Hint: in Safari,
Hi David,
I must humbly disagree. Maybe I just don't see enough Open Source
projects, but MySQL, which I use on a regular basis, has documentation
that is easy to search, has it all in one place, and does a good job
of explaining what's going on.
The GWT documentation, OTOH, in my experience
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