.
(Mind you, I have of late been seduced by the charms of a WYSIWYG
score editor called Musescore.)
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On Thu, Feb 07, 2013, Werner Lemberg wrote:
groff 1.22.2 has been released.
A big thanks, Werner, for all your extraordinary work. Do I detect
a Schwanengesang in 1.22.2? You mentioned that you'll be backing
off from groff development in the future.
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reference work).
Lastly, once you've grasped the fundamentals, the groff info manual
itself is your best place to go for learning. I use it constantly.
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CVSROOT:/sources/groff
Module name:groff
Changes by: Peter Schaffter PTPi 13/02/01 17:48:01
Modified files:
contrib/mom/examples: typesetting.mom
Log message:
Reworked typesetting.mom to use Helvetica and Times Roman only.
CVSWeb URLs:
http
been
reworked to use Helvetica and Times Roman only.
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by Wednesday, possibly sooner. Is that
okay?
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On Sat, Jan 26, 2013, Clarke Echols wrote:
I was able to eliminate nearly all \f* in-line coding, and the
The \f* looks rather more like an explitive deleted than a font
request. Was that intentional? :)
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. For
example
.HEADING 1 Text of Heading
prints correctly in the body of the doc, but results in a blank
entry in the TOC. That's why the mom documentation recommends
consistent use of \[lq]...\[rq] or \(lq...\(rq in string args.
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page between collated sections of a document, a
situation that sometimes arises when the last line of output text
coincides with the bottom margin.
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. \}
.\}
.END
TS/TE should behave now.
I'll fix this in the repo when I commit the next set of changes
to mom.
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(as appropriate), it is
possible to create very complete templates--probably more complete
and certainly more typographically refined than can be accomplished
with Word.
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on a valid baseline), that behaviour can be disabled by
inserting .NO_SHIM prior to the image.
If it's something else, let me know.
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in the header
at the same size (by default, the size of your body text), with no
capitalized strings. That way, there are no surprises if you're
designing your header from the ground up.
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. Also, v2.0 being somewhat beta-ish, please post
any bugs you encounter, or suggestions for improvement.
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creating a top margin of 3.75 centimeters
but
.HEADER_MARGIN 2.5c
.HEADER_GAP1.25c
.T_MARGIN 3c
- body text starts at 3 centimeters because T_MARGIN
takes precedence
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Deri --
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012, Deri James wrote:
On Tuesday 02 Oct 2012 13:45:40 Peter Schaffter wrote:
Deri,
I've encountered a problem with gropdf and the .tkf request. When
I process this example with -Tpdf, the first block of type renders
perfectly. However, when I add track
On Fri, Oct 05, 2012, Grigoriy A. Sitkarev wrote:
Let me please express my opinion and share experience.
I enjoyed your musings.
For me, groff is like somebody handing me a printer's version of a
Mecano set and saying: Here, go build something cool.
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test.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012, trebol wrote:
...but for now I prefer play with the gear, nuts and bolts and
keep me near the groff’s bases to learn the system snip so
maybe I’ll try ms
Given how you want to approach learning groff, ms would be my
choice, too.
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of 'man groff_mom'
will point you to the entry point for the mom docs.
I believe mom is a good choice for starting out with groff since
both the documentation and the macros themselves are newbie
friendly.
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On Thu, Sep 20, 2012, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
Peter Schaffter pe...@schaffter.ca writes:
[...]
groff-current/contrib/mom/Makefile.sub
PDFMOM=GROFF_COMMAND_PREFIX=''; \
export GROFF_COMMAND_PREFIX; \
+ GROFF_BIN_PATH=$(GROFF_BIN_PATH); \
+ export GROFF_BIN_PATH
modified the repository accordingly.
Oops. This came in after I posted. Thanks, Werner.
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CVSROOT:/sources/groff
Module name:groff
Changes by: Peter Schaffter PTPi 12/09/15 20:25:48
Modified files:
contrib/mom: Makefile.sub
Log message:
Added GROFF_BIN_PATH to PDFMOM.
CVSWeb URLs:
http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewcvs/groff/contrib/mom
); \
+ export GROFF_BIN_PATH; \
PDFMOM_BIN_PATH=$(top_builddir)/src/devices/gropdf; \
export PDFMOM_BIN_PATH; \
$(PDFMOMBIN) $(FFLAG) $(TFLAG)
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to the field, so
%e Second
not
%e Second edition
or
%e Second ed
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for TOC entries,
.PDF_LINK_COLOR black
.TOC
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-
Ditto.
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CVSROOT:/sources/groff
Module name:groff
Changes by: Peter Schaffter PTPi 12/09/07 19:16:14
Modified files:
contrib/mom: om.tmac
Log message:
Make default BIBLIOGRAPHY_TYPE to be PLAIN, per docs.
CVSWeb URLs:
http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewcvs/groff
, and need to be extended.
Only by checking the documentation for a particular macro set can
one be certain of the available identifiers. In mom, the list of
identifiers is in the html documentation, refer.html.
Hope this helps.
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meanings for DOI applies here, so it's
difficult to determine which field identifier is correct.
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://www.schaffter.ca/mom/mom-2.0.tar.gz
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Anton --
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012, Peter Schaffter wrote:
I'm attaching a .pdf of the output so you can see how mom
reformats the same data depending on whether she's doing endnotes
or a bibliography.
Oops. Here's the attachement.
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-ppapersize flags on the command line.
Thus:
groff -Tpdf -mom momdoc.mom momdoc.pdf
or
pdfmom momdoc.mom momdoc.pdf
Simplicity itself. Bear in mind, though, that regardless of the
output generated, you will still have to instruct your printer to
print the file in landscape.
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at
doc/groff-1.21/pdf/mom-pdf.pdf
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ideas.
Alternatively, the macros QUOTE and BLOCKQUOTE both automatically
indent text equally from both margins.
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and double at 24pt.
There's also an intelligent paragraph spacing option, PARA_SPACE,
and tab/indent management that should make dialogue setup a breeze.
Type man groff_mom to get the entry point for the mom html docs.
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On Sat, May 26, 2012, Deri James wrote:
On Saturday 26 May 2012 10:02:22 Denis M. Wilson wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2012 23:41:32 -0400
Peter Schaffter pe...@schaffter.ca wrote:
Building groff from the latest sources, 'make' terminates with
Error 2 after multiple warnings of the sort
On Sat, May 26, 2012, Denis M. Wilson wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2012 23:41:32 -0400
Peter Schaffter pe...@schaffter.ca wrote:
Building groff from the latest sources, 'make' terminates with
Error 2 after multiple warnings of the sort
Warning: line 78: Failed to create groff font 'U
Building groff from the latest sources, 'make' terminates with
Error 2 after multiple warnings of the sort
Warning: line 78: Failed to create groff font 'U-AB' by running afmtodit
I don't recall seeing this before. What's up?
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On Mon, May 14, 2012, Charlie Kester wrote:
On 05/13/2012 10:53 PM, Peter Schaffter wrote:
Let's face it: filtering a groff document through sed or awk so
it becomes acceptable rtf, readable by MSWord, is not for the
inexperienced.
I've never had occasion to put it to the test
with job-training. There
is little interest in teaching students more than what is minimally
required to function in the workplace. If employers are using
MSWord, then all that's required of a graduate, in terms of
so-called computer literacy, is that s/he be familiar with MSWord.
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: superb typographic
control when you need it, and clear structural markup when that's
what's called for.
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with mom, TOCs, and pdf.
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On Mon, Apr 30, 2012, Denis M. Wilson wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:30:38 -0400
Peter Schaffter pe...@schaffter.ca wrote:
This works for me:
- use fontforge to convert the .otf to .t42 and .pfa (which
generates an .afm)
- use the .afm, with afmtodit, to generate a groff font
and groff font to your groff font dir (I use
site-font/devps so my fonts survive across groff installations)
- add the font to your 'download' file
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putting a lot of work into integrating the mom
macros with pdf.tmac and the gropdf device. I'm waiting till that
project is complete, whence I'll be updating contrib/mom, including
the documentation.
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for that, after all?
The mom macros implement no special handling for PSPIC. Neither do
they implement keeps, so I wouldn't look to them as a solution.
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CVSROOT:/sources/groff
Module name:groff
Changes by: Peter Schaffter PTPi 12/02/21 21:14:20
Modified files:
contrib/mom: ChangeLog om.tmac
contrib/mom/momdoc: docprocessing.html
Log message:
Small bugfixes, doc corrections, changes to TYPEWRITE
? Is
there anything in groff that would conflict with implementations of
.padj, .minss and .letadj? Their absence, or the absence of
analogous requests, strikes me as a major stumbling block in groff.
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to be
shown that it can. Typography is still, after all these years,
an art that requires a good eye, a deft hand, and human judgment.
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this was on a washroom wall at the University of
Toronto, right beside the now classic, co ito ergo sum.
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, individual letter pair and overall track kerning have
occupied the lion's share of time when it came to preparing final
proofs.
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CVSROOT:/sources/groff
Module name:groff
Changes by: Peter Schaffter PTPi 11/09/08 18:30:43
Modified files:
contrib/mom: BUGS ChangeLog om.tmac
contrib/mom/momdoc: reserved.html
Log message:
Fixed bug that was causing HEADER_RULE OFF to turn off
if you have
thousands of hours of experience using vi, it's well worth several
hours reading that book.
And after reading it, and a couple thousand more hours using vim,
you still won't know everything there is to know!
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, and
the info pages
In other words, mom's already the front door: a conceptually
easy, flexible set of macros that's perfect for beginners, serves
the needs of the more experienced, and leads naturally to greater
exploration of groff itself.
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On Sat, Jul 30, 2011, Mike Bianchi wrote:
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 01:22:53PM -0400, Peter Schaffter wrote:
The I haven't used/checked out mom thing has come up a couple of
times in this thread (with respect to introducing groff to novices),
which is funny since mom already implements most
document, makes more sense. In fact, this is how I handle
mom-to-html conversions when the need arises.
Cheers.
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conventions place the TOC at the
beginning; I've any number of French works with a Table de matières
at the back.
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? Can't
find anything in the docs on the first look.
From within the directory holding the mom docs
goodies.html#dropcap
The macro itself, with minimal arguments, is
.DROPCAP letter number of lines
with support macros for adjusting the family, font, size, color, and
gutter.
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. Patches welcome, if anyone decides to take it on.
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On Wed, Feb 23, 2011, Patrik Schindler wrote:
has anyone done a macro for initials yet?
The mom macros have a fairly sophisticated dropcap mechanism based
on the number of lines to drop the cap plus the cap-height of
running text. You might want to study it for ideas.
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--again, most likely
not what you want.
If TOC and numbering aren't an issue, then cloning should work,
but I'd still recommend using the SUB-SUBHEAD macro, above, and
modifying it to your needs.
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Werner --
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010, Werner Lemberg wrote:
groff 1.21 has been released.
I gather you've been overworked recently. Thanks so much for
getting this release together. Groffers everywhere, I'm sure, join
me in expressing our appreciation.
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/watch?v=pK1yBJhLlkI
Requiescat in pace.
I am saddened. Miklos' contributions will be very much missed.
Thank you, Werner, for letting us know.
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contribution
into the mom macros. It'll appear in the next release. Thanks a
million, Tadziu.
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the bug?
Ah. I'll give that a try. Thanks.
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can't fix it myself. As it is,
I'm stymied.
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to write an .if n condition in the case where a TTY
is being used (not very likely if a doc is formatted with the mom
macros, but conceivable).
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'.ds $BIB_FAM \\$1
-- cut --
Quite so. Fixed in the repository.
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groff needs the -R option for a given file.
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%T The Illustrated Man
%I Doubleday
%C New York
%D 1951
-end biblio-
And this is the test file.
-refer-test.mom-
.TITLE Refer test document
.AUTHOR Peter Schaffter
.PRINTSTYLE TYPESET
.START
.PP
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Sed at
ante. Lorem ipsum
argument, like this
.R1
Any ideas why?
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the
author's name maintains the sort order provided the same one(s)
is/are used for subsequent duplicate entries.
Still not happy about refer not having a mechanism for dealing with
multiple works by the same author, but it's way beyond my expertise
to fix that.
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On Fri, Sep 03, 2010, Peter Schaffter wrote:
The first is that refer doesn't appear to recognize named glyphs in
a refer database, eg Encyclop\[ae]dia Britannica comes out as
Encyclop dia Britannica and Antoine de St-Exup\['e]ry as
Antoine de St-Exup ry. Is there a solution
whatsoever when you
plug in an arbitrary string, and furthermore emits no error message.
Is \C the best choice, or is there another?
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On Fri, Sep 03, 2010, Jan-Herbert Damm wrote:
My honest respect. Of the lists I have seen this is the one with
the best ratio of low traffic, low noise, high quality, and high
spirit concerning open source.
High praise. And merited, methinks.
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CVSROOT:/sources/groff
Module name:groff
Changes by: Peter Schaffter PTPi 10/08/24 16:18:35
Modified files:
contrib/mom: Makefile.sub
Log message:
Updated HTMLDOCFILES list.
CVSWeb URLs:
http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewcvs/groff/contrib/mom/Makefile.sub
CVSROOT:/sources/groff
Module name:groff
Changes by: Peter Schaffter PTPi 10/08/21 17:36:30
Modified files:
contrib/mom/momdoc: stylesheet.css toc.html
Log message:
Trivial fix to new docs.
CVSWeb URLs:
http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewcvs/groff/contrib/mom
it.
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. :)
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On December 30, 2009 01:09:07 pm Chuck Robey wrote:
In a language like groff, anything that works is beautiful.
ROTFL
Elegantly said, Chuck, and true. It ought to be the official motto
of the list.
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CVSROOT:/sources/groff
Module name:groff
Changes by: Peter Schaffter PTPi 09/11/22 18:57:54
Modified files:
contrib/mom: groff_mom.man om.tmac
contrib/mom/momdoc: appendices.html docelement.html
docprocessing.html toc.html
Log
, with the
result that normal Net activities, including cvs commits and
whatnot, have been at best spotty. I believe things have settled
down now, and hope to get a spiffy new version of the mom homepage
back online shortly.
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send the entire file again, in exactly the form that's
causing you trouble? If you're concerned about privacy (it's your
cv; you may not want just anyone reading it), feel free to do so
off-list.
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, and to say precisely what goes in them.
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CVSROOT:/sources/groff
Module name:groff
Changes by: Peter Schaffter PTPi 09/08/01 19:27:32
Modified files:
contrib/mom: BUGS om.tmac
contrib/mom/momdoc: reserved.html
Log message:
Fixed .ILX when called within .ITEM.
CVSWeb URLs:
http
to make those judgments themselves
and implement them with the available tools. In this case, it's
trivial to write a wrapper macro for ITEM.
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no
difference in the output. I have to replace the .ILX with:
.IL -3m
in order to get the result I seek. While this works, I think it is wrong.
The .ILX should work.
Fixed in the cvs. Please test.
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want for each level, e.g.
.de head-1
. HEAD_FONT B
. HEAD_SIZE +2
. HEAD \\$1
..
.
.de head-2
. HEAD_FONT B
. HEAD_SIZE +2
. HEAD_QUAD LEFT
. HEAD_CAPS off
. HEAD \\$1
..
etc.
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be implemented for all devices (which are capable to do so), not
PS only.
Beyond my ken, I'm afraid. I guess I was sort of hoping someone
would have an idea... :-|
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requests for TTY output. I don't suppose
there's any chance of underlining for the PostScript device being
implemented in groff itself, is there? Sure would make things a lot
easier.
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2009, Colin Watson wrote:
I thought this list might be interested to know that at long last I've
uploaded groff 1.20.1 to Debian unstable, so we're no longer stuck on
the dead 1.18.1 branch.
Thank God!
More mundanely--thanks, Colin.
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, it makes things easier when I want to recycle
them--say, into html. Normally, I toss the formatted files when my
pipeline's complete; only rarely do I keep them, and that's usually
only for micro typography, like creating beautiful rag or hanging
punctuation outside the right margin.
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place for you to start, especially since
there's tons of very readable documentation to go along with it.
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On Wed, Mar 04, 2009, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get my hands on a free, online copy of
RTF standards?
Looks like RTF 1.9.1 is available from Microsoft?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Text_Format#External_links
Thanks, Ralph.
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On Mon, Jan 05, 2009, Werner Lemberg wrote:
Finally, finally, finally! There are still far too many rough edges,
so there will be probably version 1.20.1 soon...
Take a break. You've earned it. :)
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CVSROOT:/sources/groff
Module name:groff
Changes by: Peter Schaffter PTPi 08/12/31 02:15:41
Modified files:
contrib/mom: om.tmac
Log message:
o Removed check for the register #PAGINATE from top of file
CVSWeb URLs:
http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewcvs/groff
, let's discuss the
issue then (on the list). Same goes for anyone else on the list
who's interested.
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