[gmx-users] RMSD graph over time and g_cluster RMSD distribution seem at odds with each other

2014-08-13 Thread ms
Dear Gromacs users, I am analyzing the RMSD evolution of a trajectory with g_rms and clustering it with g_cluster (GROMOS, cutoff 0.1). I am noticing something quite odd in the RMSD distribution. I link here the RMSD evolution over time , the cluster ID over time, and the RMSD distribution

Re: [gmx-users] RMSD graph over time and g_cluster RMSD distribution seem at odds with each other

2014-08-13 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Massimo, You have two clusters, both with low within-cluster RMSD. This shows up as the first peak in the RMSD distribution. The second peak is the between-clusters RMSD. Cheers, Tsjerk On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 3:14 PM, ms deviceran...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Gromacs users, I am

Re: [gmx-users] RMSD graph over time and g_cluster RMSD distribution seem at odds with each other

2014-08-13 Thread ms
Hi Tsjerk, On 8/13/14 3:19 PM, Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote: You have two clusters, both with low within-cluster RMSD. This shows up as the first peak in the RMSD distribution. The second peak is the between-clusters RMSD. I am sorry, but I don't understand anything here - what does within-cluster

Re: [gmx-users] RMSD graph over time and g_cluster RMSD distribution seem at odds with each other

2014-08-13 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
H Massimo, The RMSD over time is the RMSD against a single reference structure. For clustering you use the RMSD matrix, which has all pairwise RMSDs. The distribution you show is the distribution of RMSD values in that matrix. Cheers, Tsjerk On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 3:44 PM, ms

Re: [gmx-users] RMSD graph over time and g_cluster RMSD distribution seem at odds with each other

2014-08-13 Thread ms
On 8/13/14 4:01 PM, Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote: H Massimo, The RMSD over time is the RMSD against a single reference structure. For clustering you use the RMSD matrix, which has all pairwise RMSDs. The distribution you show is the distribution of RMSD values in that matrix. Aha! This makes much

Re: [gmx-users] RMSD graph over time and g_cluster RMSD distribution seem at odds with each other

2014-08-13 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 8/13/14, 10:11 AM, ms wrote: On 8/13/14 4:01 PM, Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote: H Massimo, The RMSD over time is the RMSD against a single reference structure. For clustering you use the RMSD matrix, which has all pairwise RMSDs. The distribution you show is the distribution of RMSD values in

Re: [gmx-users] RMSD graph over time and g_cluster RMSD distribution seem at odds with each other

2014-08-13 Thread ms
On 8/13/14 4:17 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote: Aha! This makes much more sense then, thanks! Is there a Gromacs command to get the histogram of RMSD against a single reference structure, then? You can construct histograms of any time series with g_analyze -dist. OK, I forgot that. Thanks a lot,