Re: [gmx-users] Autocorrelation times from gmx wham and analyze

2018-09-05 Thread David van der Spoel

Den 2018-09-05 kl. 13:01, skrev Gmx QA:

Hi all,

I am running a series of umbrella sampling simulations of a drug across a
membrane, with the final aim to determine permeability using the local
diffusion model.

I have come across papers where the (necessary) autocorrelation times of
the mean-squared fluctuation of the coordinates are calculated using gmx
wham, and this is also what I have done like this:

gmx wham -if pullf-files.dat -it tpr-files.dat -o -hist -ac -oiact


  and then the ac-times are written to the file iact.xvg.


To understand better the procedure however, I also wanted to do a similar
calculation manually.

I therefore did this:


gmx traj -f ../umbrella0.part0001.xtc -s ../umbrella0.tpr -ox
umbrella0_z_com.xvg -com -nox -noy


  to extract the z-com-coordinates of the drug molecule for a particular us
window.


Then:


gmx analyze -f umbrella0_z_com.xvg -ac -fitfn exp


Followed by:


gmx analyze -f autocorr.xvg  -integrate


to get what I though was going to be the equivalent acf-time tau. However,
for this umbrella window gmx wham gives me tau =  2.25 whereas the second
approach gives a value of 122. What could be the reason for this
difference? There is some info in cmx wham that says that the act
calculation is cut at a value of 0.05, and that is something that I haven't
been able to replicate in my second approach, but any insights are highly
appreciated.
Technical question first. Are you storing the xtc file with the same 
frequency as the data in the pullx or pullf files?



Cheers

/PK




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Re: [gmx-users] i have a question about multiple chain simulation at the same box

2018-09-05 Thread Justin Lemkul




On 9/5/18 9:25 AM, milad bagheri wrote:

I'm going to examine the interaction between the two proteins using
molecular dynamics simulation by gromacs, so I downloaded pdb code 5op1
from the rcsb , which has two protein(Complex). I want to create a gap
between two protein, and then with the same coordinate Put these two
proteins in a box and run MD 100 nanoseconds, for validation this trick
compare rmsd x-ray pose and Md pose.
please help me ...


Separate the coordinates of the two proteins, translate one of them with 
editconf, and concatenate the new coordinates back together.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Justin paper 2010 pulling

2018-09-05 Thread Justin Lemkul




On 9/5/18 1:50 AM, Rakesh Mishra wrote:

So that means

It is may be due to the  difference in the type of interaction.

and I can not understand your this statement "you have to contend with
forces principally acting perpendicular to the direction of the bias"



Well, what interactions act along the plane perpendicular to the helix 
axis of a duplex DNA or RNA?


-Justin



On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:54 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:



On 9/4/18 11:44 AM, Rakesh Mishra wrote:


Dear Justin,

Seriously I want to remove my confusion.
I just read your one paper " J.Physical Chemistry B 2010, 114, 1652-60"
Where you have studied stability of Alzheimer. I don't want to ask about
umbrella sampling used for the calculation of PMF.

But , before the calculation of PMF , you
have obtained simple dissociation using your  pulling protocol of gromacs
with constant velocity simulation at three different velocities.  I am
surprised that you have followed the obvious protocol
of minimization the nvt the npt and then 100ns md production. then you
took
final structure of 100ns and made new box for pulling  and followed the
same minimisation and npt for short time. After this you did pulling along
only one direction (one reaction coordinate) .

I am surprised that how such a smooth force/time data you have obtained
for
all the velocities (0.01,0.001,0.005) . I am asking because for my simple
12bp dsDNA or 22bp siRNA , I also have followed similar protocol and fixed
one end (say 5') of first strand and pulling opposite end (5') of second
strand along the helical direction of the system. Here, I am getting
force/time (in the .xvg ) data which is qualitatively similar behaviour
like yours i.e.  initially increasing then reach to maximum and then
decreasing almost becomes to zero value. But , In mine case during initial
time of pulling force is also negative as well large fluctuation of force
.
But not such a smooth Variation of force/time like your in this paper. In
your case, force is increasing like linearly in the initial and reaches
the
maximum and then start to decrease.  There is no problem to
clarify the peak of force (maximum force) in your pulling (above mentioned
paper). While in our case its very difficult to clarify the peak force due
to large fluctuation in value.
Can you please tell me something about the reason. Its smoothness is now
became headache for my calculation in all the case of pulling.


There is no reason to think that your outcome and mine should look
anything alike. Pulling apart two proteins that interact in the way the
peptides do in a protofibril is much simpler than the intertwined nature of
a DNA or RNA duplex. If you pull along the helix axis, you have to contend
with forces principally acting perpendicular to the direction of the bias,
as well as the fact that the strands have to slide past one another,
requiring major distortion of the helix and/or frictional forces due to the
individual strands unwinding from one another.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Orthorhombic structure and Lincs warnings

2018-09-05 Thread Alex
It's not the first time you're posting this message and there's a reason
noone is replying.

1. What are the inter-axis angles of that orthorhombic box? Why not a
rectangular box?
2. Why are you using LINCS with graphene, which should _not_ be simulated
with constraints?
3. Why are you restraining your system on top of everything else?
4. Did you verify that your graphene model (without constraints or
restraints) was stable prior to adding water?

Alex

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:35 PM sagar bathla  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Can simulation for orthorhombic structure be done in gromacs?
> Actually I am working with 2-D graphene sheets which are like a
> parallelogram.
>
> In my system, there is a graphene sheet (restrained)and water.
> After the energy minimization, energy is coming positive (order of 10^8)
> On Visualization in vmd, the structure appears to be rectangle and there
> comes a warning with it
>
> 152 inconsistant shifts etc.
>
> When I am trying to equillibrate the system then so many lines warnings
> appears of rotation of bonds more than 90 degrees and simulation crashes
> everytime.
>
> Is there any problem with structure or y else?
> Earlier also I posted this but issue hasn't resolved yet.
>
> Please help me to find this problem.
>
> Regards
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[gmx-users] Orthorhombic structure and Lincs warnings

2018-09-05 Thread sagar bathla
Dear all,

Can simulation for orthorhombic structure be done in gromacs?
Actually I am working with 2-D graphene sheets which are like a
parallelogram.

In my system, there is a graphene sheet (restrained)and water.
After the energy minimization, energy is coming positive (order of 10^8)
On Visualization in vmd, the structure appears to be rectangle and there
comes a warning with it

152 inconsistant shifts etc.

When I am trying to equillibrate the system then so many lines warnings
appears of rotation of bonds more than 90 degrees and simulation crashes
everytime.

Is there any problem with structure or y else?
Earlier also I posted this but issue hasn't resolved yet.

Please help me to find this problem.

Regards
Sagar
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[gmx-users] Pressure control with constraints incompatible with expanded ensemble

2018-09-05 Thread Jacob Monroe
Hi all,

I would like to use Gromacs (2018 versions on GPUs) to compute solvation free 
energies using expanded ensemble simulations.  I have no problems in the NVT 
ensemble, but when I try and implement pressure control I run into errors.

Specifically, if I want to use expanded ensemble, I must use the md-vv 
integrator.  If I use this integrator, I must select MTTK pressure control (I’d 
rather not use Berendsen for production runs), but if I want to constrain 
hydrogen bonds, I cannot use MTTK (grompp throws an error).  Previous versions 
of Gromacs appear to have allowed MTTK as long as SHAKE was used for 
constraints (see the mdp files here: 
http://www.alchemistry.org/wiki/GROMACS_4.6_example:_Ethanol_solvation_with_expanded_ensemble).

So is the only way to run NPT, expanded ensemble simulations with current 
versions of Gromacs to use the Berendsen barostat?

Thanks,
Jacob
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[gmx-users] compilation terminated with error

2018-09-05 Thread Alex
Dear all,
The compilation of the Gromacs.2018.2 on a cluster terminated with error in
below step, would you please let me know how I can overcome the issue? I
use gcc/7.3.0.


[  0%] Building C object
src/gromacs/CMakeFiles/tng_io_zlib.dir/__/external/tng_io/external/zlib/crc32.c.o

cd /p/home/alex/.local/gromacs/2018.2/gromacs-2018.2/build/src/gromacs &&
/opt/cray/pe/craype/2.5.13/bin/cc -DGMX_DOUBLE=0 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -isystem
/p/home/alex/.local/gromacs/2018.2/gromac
s-2018.2/src/external/lmfit
-I/p/home/alex/.local/gromacs/2018.2/gromacs-2018.2/build/src -isystem
/p/home/alex/.local/gromacs/2018.2/gromacs-2018.2/src/external/thread_mpi/include
-I/p/hom
e/alex/.local/gromacs/2018.2/gromacs-2018.2/src -isystem /usr/include
-isystem /opt/cray/pe/fftw/3.3.4.11/broadwell/include
-I/p/home/alex/.local/gromacs/2018.2/gromacs-2018.2/src/external/
tng_io/external/zlib  -msse2   -dynamic  -O3 -DNDEBUG -funroll-all-loops
-fexcess-precision=fast   -fPIC   -o
CMakeFiles/tng_io_zlib.dir/__/external/tng_io/external/zlib/crc32.c.o   -c
/p/h
ome/alex/.local/gromacs/2018.2/gromacs-2018.2/src/external/tng_io/external/zlib/crc32.c

make[2]: Leaving directory
'/p/home/alex/.local/gromacs/2018.2/gromacs-2018.2/build'
make -f src/gromacs/CMakeFiles/tng_io_obj.dir/build.make
src/gromacs/CMakeFiles/tng_io_obj.dir/build
make[2]: Entering directory
'/p/home/alex/.local/gromacs/2018.2/gromacs-2018.2/build'
make[2]: Entering directory
'/p/home/alex/.local/gromacs/2018.2/gromacs-2018.2/build'
make[2]: Entering directory
'/p/home/alex/.local/gromacs/2018.2/gromacs-2018.2/build'
In file included from
/opt/gcc/7.3.0/snos/include/g++/ext/string_conversions.h:41:0,
from
/opt/gcc/7.3.0/snos/include/g++/bits/basic_string.h:6349,
from /opt/gcc/7.3.0/snos/include/g++/string:52,
from
/p/home/alex/.local/gromacs/2018.2/gromacs-2018.2/src/programs/view/view.cpp:45:

/opt/gcc/7.3.0/snos/include/g++/cstdlib:75:15: fatal error: stdlib.h: No
such file or directory
#include_next 
   ^~
compilation terminated.

Thank you.
Regards,
Alex
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Re: [gmx-users] Workstation choice

2018-09-05 Thread Benson Muite

Hi Olga,

The authors of:

https://github.com/bio-phys/MDBenchmark/tree/version-1.3.2

https://zenodo.org/record/1318123

May be helpful. If your data is not confidential, you may consider 
running Gromacs remotely on a cloud high performance computing resource, 
or benchmarking remotely and then purchasing a suitable configuration.


Some other information:
http://manual.gromacs.org/documentation/current/user-guide/mdrun-performance.html#
http://www.gromacs.org/GPU_acceleration
https://extras.csc.fi/chem/courses/gmx2007/Erik_Talks/building_clusters.pdf
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Performance_checklist

On 09/05/2018 12:02 PM, Olga Selyutina wrote:

  Hello,

I need help in choice of the workstation for MD simulations using GROMACS.
It is supposed to study systems consisting from 30-50k atoms, in
particular, lipid bilayer models. Since the last generation of Intel and
Ryzen CPU has made a big leap in performance, available workstation can’t
be taken as a basis. Please, help to choose components of the workstation,
particularly, GPU and CPU with total cost about $2000. What is better, to
buy two GPUs(sli) or one GPU but more effective?



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Re: [gmx-users] Calculating the Hydrophobic and Hydrophilic SASA values on GROMACS version 5.1.2

2018-09-05 Thread Andrew Srimalka Wijesekera
Hi Supid,
Got the point. Thanks a lot.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:05 AM, Sudip Das  wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
> Follow the below link. Hope that helps.
>
> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Tool_Changes_for_5.0 (follow
> the 'g_sas' section)
>
> Regards,
> Sudip
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:56 AM Andrew Srimalka Wijesekera <
> 2014s14...@stu.cmb.ac.lk> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I'm currently studying the structural changes and thermodynamic
> properties
> > of a protein structure when binding the ligand. Here I have ran the MD
> run
> > for 50 ns and calculate the SASA value from the gromacs 5.1.2 version.
> > According to my knowledge I got only the total SASA value. But I want to
> > get the hydrophobic and hydrophilic SASA values seperately from the
> gromacs
> > 5.1.2 version as well. Therefore would you please help me to solve this
> > problem.
> > Thanks in advance.
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[gmx-users] i have a question about multiple chain simulation at the same box

2018-09-05 Thread milad bagheri
I'm going to examine the interaction between the two proteins using
molecular dynamics simulation by gromacs, so I downloaded pdb code 5op1
from the rcsb , which has two protein(Complex). I want to create a gap
between two protein, and then with the same coordinate Put these two
proteins in a box and run MD 100 nanoseconds, for validation this trick
compare rmsd x-ray pose and Md pose.
please help me ...
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[gmx-users] Autocorrelation times from gmx wham and analyze

2018-09-05 Thread Gmx QA
Hi all,

I am running a series of umbrella sampling simulations of a drug across a
membrane, with the final aim to determine permeability using the local
diffusion model.

I have come across papers where the (necessary) autocorrelation times of
the mean-squared fluctuation of the coordinates are calculated using gmx
wham, and this is also what I have done like this:

gmx wham -if pullf-files.dat -it tpr-files.dat -o -hist -ac -oiact


 and then the ac-times are written to the file iact.xvg.


To understand better the procedure however, I also wanted to do a similar
calculation manually.

I therefore did this:


gmx traj -f ../umbrella0.part0001.xtc -s ../umbrella0.tpr -ox
umbrella0_z_com.xvg -com -nox -noy


 to extract the z-com-coordinates of the drug molecule for a particular us
window.


Then:


gmx analyze -f umbrella0_z_com.xvg -ac -fitfn exp


Followed by:


gmx analyze -f autocorr.xvg  -integrate


to get what I though was going to be the equivalent acf-time tau. However,
for this umbrella window gmx wham gives me tau =  2.25 whereas the second
approach gives a value of 122. What could be the reason for this
difference? There is some info in cmx wham that says that the act
calculation is cut at a value of 0.05, and that is something that I haven't
been able to replicate in my second approach, but any insights are highly
appreciated.


Cheers

/PK
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Re: [gmx-users] Calculating the Hydrophobic and Hydrophilic SASA values on GROMACS version 5.1.2

2018-09-05 Thread Sudip Das
Hi Andrew,
Follow the below link. Hope that helps.

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Tool_Changes_for_5.0 (follow
the 'g_sas' section)

Regards,
Sudip

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:56 AM Andrew Srimalka Wijesekera <
2014s14...@stu.cmb.ac.lk> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I'm currently studying the structural changes and thermodynamic properties
> of a protein structure when binding the ligand. Here I have ran the MD run
> for 50 ns and calculate the SASA value from the gromacs 5.1.2 version.
> According to my knowledge I got only the total SASA value. But I want to
> get the hydrophobic and hydrophilic SASA values seperately from the gromacs
> 5.1.2 version as well. Therefore would you please help me to solve this
> problem.
> Thanks in advance.
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[gmx-users] Workstation choice

2018-09-05 Thread Olga Selyutina
 Hello,

I need help in choice of the workstation for MD simulations using GROMACS.
It is supposed to study systems consisting from 30-50k atoms, in
particular, lipid bilayer models. Since the last generation of Intel and
Ryzen CPU has made a big leap in performance, available workstation can’t
be taken as a basis. Please, help to choose components of the workstation,
particularly, GPU and CPU with total cost about $2000. What is better, to
buy two GPUs(sli) or one GPU but more effective?

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