[guadec-list] Program?
Hi all, It's a month before the conference, and I just visited guadec.org to see what we have up by way of a teaser. I was surprised that not only haven't we announced any keynotes yet, the schedule isn't yet up either. Aren't they ready? If they're not, a month out from the conference, it's going to be hard for some of our speakers who are maybe waiting for a notification to get tickets at good prices to attend. I hope we can get these up soon! Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org / Jabber: nea...@gmail.com Ph: +33 950 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Keynote speakers brainstorming
Hi, On 05/22/2013 02:55 AM, Allan Day wrote: Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: In short, we will have plenty of community members talking to each other - even in the keynotes. I see one or two keynotes per year when we choose not to navel gaze or preach to the choir to be a good thing. Both Karen and Lennart have important things to say about GNOME's wider significance and the challenges ahead. I find your assertion that this would be navel gazing to be a pretty rude. My apologies, I did not intend to be rude. I find it frustrating that every year we have a variety of people criticising invited keynotes. I think they bring a lot to the GNOME community. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Keynote speakers brainstorming
Hi Andreas, On 04/08/2013 10:59 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: So one question that have been floating around in my head the last couple of days is how well these speakers (and others suggested in the thread) align with the main topics of the conference. Do the proposed keynote speakers map directly to the topics, or is the selection supposed to be more fun and inspiring? snip * Design of the developer experience (tools, documentation, services) Anne Gentle falls squarely into this category - documentation is her thing, and working with Rackspace on OpenStack, it's been all about the developer experience so far. * Integration of web technologies into the GNOME user experience I will note that we've had keynotes in the past 4-5 GUADECs from Alp Toker on Webkit, Chris Blizzard on Mozilla, Alex Gravely on Big Board (I think that's what it was called), was it Owen Taylor on the Online Desktop stuff?, Luis Villa also Mozilla, and I'm sure I'm missing one or two. Haven't we been over this already? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Keynote speakers brainstorming
Hi, On 04/05/2013 05:33 PM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: Yeah, that was one of the persons I was thinking of. But there are certainly others. Novell announced a large desktop deployment in PSA Peugeot Citroen a couple of years ago. Red Hat surely has some larger desktop customers, too, etc. That does bring up an interesting question - is there any enterprise distribution running GNOME 3 now? RHEL 6.4 is still GNOME 2 based. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Keynote speakers brainstorming
Hi, On 04/03/2013 05:45 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: a) Sumanah or Sue Gardner from Wikimedia; b) Chris DiBona from Google; c) Ryan Gordon (icculus) who has ported several games to Linux; Please comment add your suggestions! How about somebody from the Fedora side (given that we are in a location with some Fedora affinity), such as Jaroslav Reznik (he's the Fedora program manager, and also a kde person - could be interesting), Robyn Bergeron (Fedora project leader) or Matt Miller (Fedora cloud architect). Robyn or Christian Schaller are both good candidates. Matt Miller seems a little far off the GNOME radar. I don't know Jaroslav. Other ideas: Anne Gentle (community documentation - Rackspace person, and OPW mentor), Leslie Hawthorn (she keynoted FOSDEM this year), Pia Waugh (a bit far for her to travel, but she is awesome), Hilary Mason (on using data to drive decisions, perhaps?). Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org / Jabber: nea...@gmail.com Ph: +33 950 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Keynote speakers brainstorming
Hi, On 04/03/2013 08:34 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: I know Robyn and Jaroslav personally and I think they're good fits for this. On the other hand, I'm a bit concerned that people might feel GUADEC is too much about Red Hat. Red Hat is going to be one of the major partners and sponsors, most people in the organizing team are redhatters, there will be a lot of attendees from Red Hat since it's held in Brno etc. Good point. I also worry a bit about GUADEC seeming too Red Hat focused this year. This is a bit crazy perhaps, but I'm just tossing out an idea - what about having distro themed keynoters with one from fedora, one from debian, one from opensuse and then one from either mint or ubuntu? Or this may be difficult to limit now that I think of it, given all the other relevant distros... I agree on the fear of RHT overload point, but one keynote is not *that* huge - unless we also end up with a design team keynote (which would be Red Hat) too. Then again, I like breaking habits before they get too embedded in the psyche - so I'd suggest avoiding a Shell/design keynote this year, since we've had one each of the last 3 years. I love the idea of a Mint keynote - I also think you'll have some resistance to it. I would not suggest having an Ubuntu keynote - we've reached out to them a lot, and recent changes only reinforce the fact that the schism is consecrated - at this point, inviting an Ubuntu keynote would be the equivalent of inviting a KDE keynote. Interesting in the abstract, but very likely to be misunderstood by the audience. What about inviting a representative of users? I suppose there some larger deployments of GNOME no matter if it's on RHEL or SUSE or some other system. There are also companies that build their solutions on GNOME technologies. I've always felt that such voices (of those that use the software in day-to-day business) are not emphasised enough at conferences such as GUADEC. this is another good way to go! We probably should just put together a list of people that we think would be good speakers and start inviting them though. A lot of them won't be able to make it anyway. Well, the idea keeps coming up, so we might as well get it out there again this year... how about a nice, typical GNOME user like Greg KH or Linus Torvalds? For the record, I think neither would be a good choice. It's better to give someone who doesn't usually have a pulpit the opportunity to speak. Karen, do you have contacts with any prominent happy GNOME users? Institutional users would be best, but famous people who use GNOME 3 (fame is relative) would work too. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org / Jabber: nea...@gmail.com Ph: +33 950 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Keynote speakers brainstorming
How about Steven O'Grady? He has just written a book on that exact subject. Dave. On Apr 3, 2013 9:36 PM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote: On 2013-04-03 12:18, Rui Tiago Cação Matos wrote: Hi, let's get the keynote speakers discussion started so that we have time to invite people. On this week's meeting several possible candidates were suggested: a) Sumanah or Sue Gardner from Wikimedia; b) Chris DiBona from Google; c) Ryan Gordon (icculus) who has ported several games to Linux; Please comment add your suggestions! Ok, this is going to be fairly handwavey, but whatever. What about someone who can talk about developer experience? So we can get inspired to create a awesome experience for the 3rd party developers that will help us win. In general it would be good with keynoters who can inspire in the same way that Jacob Applebaum (last guadec) or Ned Richards (desktop summit) did. - Andreas __**_ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/guadec-listhttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Keynote speakers brainstorming
How about Steven O'Grady? He has just written a book on that exact subject. Dave. On Apr 3, 2013 9:36 PM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se mailto:li...@andreasn.se wrote: On 2013-04-03 12:18, Rui Tiago Cação Matos wrote: Hi, let's get the keynote speakers discussion started so that we have time to invite people. On this week's meeting several possible candidates were suggested: a) Sumanah or Sue Gardner from Wikimedia; b) Chris DiBona from Google; c) Ryan Gordon (icculus) who has ported several games to Linux; Please comment add your suggestions! Ok, this is going to be fairly handwavey, but whatever. What about someone who can talk about developer experience? So we can get inspired to create a awesome experience for the 3rd party developers that will help us win. In general it would be good with keynoters who can inspire in the same way that Jacob Applebaum (last guadec) or Ned Richards (desktop summit) did. - Andreas ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org mailto:guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] when to make the call for 2015 GUADEC proposals?
Hi Karen, Previously we have done this during Spring of the year before, with a decision announced at GUADEC. With the process change last year, is there an expectation that you will announce the '15 host during GUADEC 2013? That is a long lead time - which might be OK, but I think that there needs to be a lowering of expectations for what will be ready in the bids in consequence. Cheers, Dave. On 03/21/2013 02:36 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: Rosanna wisely points out to me that we'll need to invite folks to submit an intent to host GUADEC 2015. When is the right time to do that leading up to this GUADEC? karen ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] code of conduct/anti-harassment at GUADEC
Hi, On 01/03/2013 06:12 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: Can you define discrimination here, and discuss some past experiences in other conferences or at GUADEC? Did we have to take action for discriminatory behaviour at GUADEC? What are currently our course of action when problems occur, are the Board or the organisers, or both responsible for enforcement? I'd really like to understand what is defined as the problem before we discuss about guards against it, or enforcement. I also prefer encouraging the positive approaches (like WOP has done) than enforcement at a later date. Nobody likes pointing fingers or naming names, but here are a few of the incidents I have seen or been made aware of at GUADEC/DS in recent years (without naming names or hopefully giving away enough details to identify the people involved): * One young man got drunk at a party and got a little too friendly with a female conference attendee. * One man was making jokes about islam while at lunch off-site, and when asked to stop by another conference goer, didn't... * Another man picked a fight with a prominent community member The list could go on - these are the ones which come readily to mind. Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] Kim Goodwin as keynote?
Hi all, I'd love to see Kim Goodwin keynote GUADEC this year on the importance of good personas for product design: * http://www.uie.com/brainsparks/2011/06/24/kim-goodwin-designing-with-scenarios-putting-personas-to-work/ * http://www.uie.com/articles/perfecting_personas/ * http://www.cooper.com/journal/2008/05/getting_from_research_to_perso.html She's very prominent in the design world, former VP of cooper.com (Alan Cooper's company - author if The Inmates are Running the Asylum). Who's co-ordinating keynotes this year? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Kim Goodwin as keynote?
Hi, On 11/28/2012 12:36 PM, Felipe Erias Morandeira wrote: On 28/11/12 10:31, Dave Neary wrote: I'd love to see Kim Goodwin keynote GUADEC this year on the importance of good personas for product design: That would be awesome. I agree :-) I'd be happy to invite her, if the person co-ordinating the keynotes gives me the green light. Any idea who that is? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Kim Goodwin as keynote?
Hi, On 11/28/2012 08:53 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: Dave, I think you can go ahead and invite Kim though, since there were no objections. Do you want to coordinate the keynotes this time? :D Should I count Bastien's feedback as an objection? He seems to think that it's irrelevant for the GNOME community. re co-ordinating: I think that the local team might want to have some say in it (and I know that they have been planning for a few weeks now), and I don't think I would be able to do it justice. Happy to invite anyone I have in the address book, or try to get in contact with Famous People you might like to invite, but don't really want to plan organise it this year. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] Fwd: Interview requests @GUADEC
Hi all, Joaquim, can you field this interview request email from Andreas? He's a GUADEC regular, and needs only to be introduced to the keynotes over email. Thanks, Dave. Original Message Subject: Interview requests @GUADEC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 10:23:48 +0200 From: Andreas Proschofsky s...@gentoo.org To: gnome-press-cont...@gnome.org Hi everyone, I'd like to do a bunch of interviews with some of the keynote speakers during this years GUADEC namely Jacob Appelbaum, Alex Bayley and Dave Mason. Could you help me in getting this rolling? If you prefer I could also contact them myself, in which case I'd be pretty happy if you could provide me with some contact info. hope to see you all soon in A Coruña Andreas -- Andreas Proschofsky Gentoo Developer / LibreOffice Twitter: @suka_hiroaki Identi.ca: @suka Google+: https://plus.google.com/110305043896789356373/ -- https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-private From time to time confidential and sensitive information will be discussed on this mailing list. Please take care to mark confidential information as confidential, and do not redistribute this information without permission. ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Fwd: Interview requests @GUADEC
Thanks for the offer Seif! On 07/10/2012 05:27 PM, Seif Lotfy wrote: I can get you in contact with Jacob Appelbaum Since we have invited him to keynote, we do have his contact details already, thanks :) Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Lightning talks at GUADEC
Hi, On 05/21/2012 01:21 PM, Xabier Rodriguez Calvar wrote: What would be needed to collaborate in organizing the LT at GUADEC? I thought of a having a committee with Carlos Garnacho, Rodrigo Moya and me. I hope it is not too much to do because I do not have too much time, but I'll try to help. I don't know who's looking after them this year - but here's some historical perspective. The first years we did lightning talks, we had people sign up directly on the wiki - the only organisation involved was sending out emails blogging to let ppl know it was there. Aside from that, once you hit the limit of the lightning talks, you need to decide whether to do some kind of selection process (if you get a lot of them) or stop taking new proposals. And then once you have your line-up, the only other thing is the compere/host - it should be someone lively outgoing, who can add a little bit of fun to the occasion. Oh - one other thing: someone needs to make an effort to get people to send their slides, if they have any, to one person beforehand - laptop swapping should not be going on in the middle of lightning talks. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Is there promo material like flyers or posters for GUADEC 2012
Hi, On 05/08/2012 09:48 PM, William from Texas wrote: We have a small graphic, attached, but not the blog badges yet! Here is also the larger SVG of the lovely sky-line of A Coruna from the GUADEC poster: http://upload.williamfromtexas.com/download/GUADEC%20poster.svg Thanks! I hadn't seen this. Is there a version which includes sponsor logos and perhaps some text about the conference that would be suitable for a magazine ad or flyer? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Is there promo material like flyers or posters for GUADEC 2012
Hi Brian, Toby, On 05/08/2012 05:47 PM, Brian Cameron wrote: Marketing Materials should be here. If any are missing, please add them. I don't believe that any artwork for GUADEC has been done yet. It's on the check-list as a priority for March and April, but I think we're running a little behind the ideal schedule at this point. Of course, I'm only going on what I read on guadec-list, I have not seen a lot of traffic from the Coruna team recently. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] GUADEC and GNOME.Asia Sponsor Brochure
Hi, On 03/06/2012 06:15 PM, William from Texas wrote: At our meeting there was also talk about extra vouchers and VIP travel costs for Ad Board members who sponsored, but I wasn't sure where or how this should be codified into the sponsor brochure. A new column in the package tables, like + Ad Board Membership = +2 vouchers, +VIP travel costs? A side section? A Term Condition? My initial reaction is that this would be a significant effort on our side, and might not be something which would be important to travelling VIPs, for whom the expense account is relatively transparent. Have people been asking for this? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Keynote thoughts
Hi, He's also coming from farther away, and is already in Open Source. He has a lower profile outside the GNOME project than some others on the list, and he's both more likely to say yes and more expensive than others on the list - just pointing out some of the other trade-offs. Cheers, Dave. On 02/27/2012 05:18 PM, Seif Lotfy wrote: I think Jacob Appelbaum should be higher on the list. Jacob has been showing interest in a privacy panel/settings for GNOME that includes control over sharing/logs/browsing He has been a motivation and working with me on the Activity Log Manager which is being shipped with Ubuntu and others as a default, something I am looking into bringing into GNOME in collaboration with the design team. http://minus.com/mbdSTJzkn Cheers Seif On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org mailto:ka...@gnome.org wrote: Sorry this has taken me so long - I promised jrocha I would send the list of keynoters out. These are the keynote ideas we have so far (I put them in a rough order, I confess putting my top choice top). Let us know if someone is missing, or if you think any particular person should be much higher or much lower on the list. I think we're also going to need more suggestions so keep thinking about it... Miguel de Icaza and Federico Mena Quintero (15 year anniversary) Jon 'maddog' Hall Mitchell Baker (Mozilla) Eli Pariser - beware online filter bubbles (TED 2011) Linda Stone Diego Rodriguez: http://metacool.typepad.com/ Bret Victor Ben Hammersley Telecomix - your disaster/revolution/crisis just got pwned (28c3 2011) Shawn Henry Jim Fruchterman Rachel Botsman - The case for collaborative consumption (TED 2010) Glenda Watson Hyatt Marcin Jakubowski - open source civilization (TED 2011) Jacob Applebaum I also saw this and really liked it: Sheryl Sandberg: Why we have too few women leaders http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18uDutylDa4feature=relmfu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18uDutylDa4feature=relmfu I dropped myself from the list of suggestions, as I'll surely be visible enough at GUADEC :) karen ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org mailto:guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] I'm going to GUADEC badge
Hi, On 02/09/2012 10:01 PM, William from Texas wrote: OK, that's sound reasoning.. Blog badges and other things can be based off poster designs. Can we engage gnome-design to cook something up? I think that's an excellent idea! William, can you do the asking? Attached is not the one that ran in 2010, but I think it's very similar. (This was the lead page from the official GUADEC2010 PDF.) Good point - the visual identity of the brochure and website already could be inspiration for any posters. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Keynote thoughts
Hi, On 02/09/2012 08:21 PM, Joaquim Rocha wrote: Well, I think that as a GNOME user and developer, the important thing is how far outside the comfort zone we're talking about :) Stuff that some part of the GNOME community is interested in, and which we'd like a substantial part of the community to care more about. Think of the keynotes I mentioned: Luis Villa, integrating web services desktop Danny O'Brien, the importance of crypto on the desktop Claire Rowland, service design Thomas Thwaites, building cool stuff Kathy Sierra, focusing on user experience Walter Bender, free software in education And so on. In general, I've tried to go outside the GNOME community, but not so far outside the community that we end up with disgruntled people (although sometimes some speakers get added against my better judgement and they can be both surprisingly good, or surprisingly not good - I have some examples in mind, but I'll keep them to myself). And I think that tactic works well. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Keynote thoughts
Hi, I also thing Mad Dog might be a good keynote, and I think 10 years is long enough to not have been there. I might try and invite speakers from outside the free software sphere first, though, since they are harder to get. Also, some kind of theme for keynotes would be nice. I have aimed for UX/design (Istanbul), the importance of software freedom outside the desktop (r0ml's talk on software as literature, Walter Bender on Sugar, and RMS in Gran Canaria), service design and JFDI (Berlin), and again with the importance of free software to the world (Danny O'Brien, Luis Villa). Sometimes I've missed the theme, but I've always been thinking about exposing the GNOME community to something outside their comfort zone. Also, I like to invite keynotes from not too far away, if possible - European, or even Spanish, speakers would be cool. There was a TEDx in Galicia a few months ago - anyone know if any of those speakers are both good relevant? Cheers, Dave. On 02/09/2012 01:54 PM, William from Texas wrote: If he came in 2002, maybe he could talk about what 10 years of differnce makes? On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Joaquim Rocha jro...@igalia.com mailto:jro...@igalia.com wrote: Hey Germán, On 02/09/2012 01:14 AM, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: FWIW, Maddog gave a keynote during the 3rd GUADEC (Seville 2002). Alright. I wasn't aware of that. As a side note, I can not recall if that what the time when he tried to convince people to adopt a new logo or a mascot. His rationale was the foot is not good for marketing: nobody can hug a foot, you can not name it, a foot is not neutral everywhere (he said a foot can be extremely insulting in Thailand), etc. Well, I see how that can upset some people in GNOME but I don't see it as an argument not to invite a great speaker like he is. Also, he was a KDE user and now AFAIK he uses GNOME. Cheers, -- Joaquim Rocha _ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org mailto:guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/__listinfo/guadec-list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] I'm going to GUADEC badge
Hi, A top priority before then is to have an ad which we can send to magazines and online news sites. Media sponsors will need a poster/ad in mid March for their May edition, and typically May, June July are the months we want ads in. News sites can put up a banner ad any time, but again, between April and June is when most people plan their travel, so doing a banner ad at the same time as we do the print ad makes sense. Of course, it would be nice to have some big name keynotes to put in the poster ;) but we can certainly add those for later editions if we don't have them when going to press first. The Going to GUADEC badges can/should come later I think. What do you think? Cheers, Dave. On 02/07/2012 09:17 PM, William from Texas wrote: Hey Everyone I just remembered that in the past years, when we opened registration, we also had 'I'm going to GUADEC! blog badges. Should we ask a designer to mock something up? ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] GUADEC committee meeting on 19 December 2011 UTC 16:00 ?
Hi, On 12/13/2011 10:45 AM, Chema Casanova wrote: Does anybody has a problem for 19th at 16:00 UTC ? I wouldn't be able to attend either date. But I don't think my presence is indispensable. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] GUADEC 2012 Sponsor Perks
Hi, On 11/21/2011 08:28 PM, Brian Cameron wrote: In the local team, we suggest the attendance to be free. It might be good to consider a sliding scale. Students and community volunteers, for example, could be allowed free attendance. Professional attendees can be more reasonably expected to pay a reasonable fee. Some volunteers might even be willing to pay an affordable fee if there are perks like attendance to a dinner or party. Most people understand that things like parties cost money, and understand that a reasonable fee is needed to break even. I do think that free attendance is important for people that the GNOME community needs to reach out to, such as the local community. But, such fees can really help to cover costs for making a successful event happen. I agree with Brian, I think it's important to send the message that attendees are contributing to the viability of the conference. Having a fee (even a token amount) also allows much more accurate numbers of the number of attendees than if registration is free. One other concern is also the longer term implications of free attendance. Perhaps this year the budget works out so that we don't need registration fees, but if, in future years, that is not the case, the precedent of a free conference might make it harder to have a fee. This is something we've already seen after the Desktop Summit in Gran Canaria. In general, I think it's important to set the expectation that GUADEC attendance is not free, but that we will never turn anyone away for financial reasons. Perhaps a suggested contribution similar to voluntary (but heavily encouraged) entrance fees to museums would be appropriate? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] Potential Lyon bid
Hi, We are studying the possibility of putting a bid together for Lyon for GUADEC 2012, but we are not yet ready to present anything. I'm still discussing it with local LUGs, GNOME FR, and a local university. I just wanted to get this in before the deadline, to find out what kind of timeframe is available to us to work on a proposal, and what competing bids are in the race. Thanks! Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] GUADEC Budget Information
Thanks Reinout! This is great - and actually points out one or two gaps in the current budget that need filling *quickly* (insurance, specifically). Cheers, Dave. On 06/15/11 01:09, Reinout van Schouwen wrote: Hi Dave, Dave Neary schreef op di 07-06-2011 om 18:20 [+0200]: Also, I think the Hague budget was more or less final too - Reinout or Vincent (I think they're still on the list) might have better information. There are still some leftovers to be discussed, we hope to talk to Germán (or the board in general) during the desktop summit to take a final decision. But in general we've taken care of all the financial obligations the organization committee had. The accompanying budget overview is the one we have also sent to the city of The Hague, who sponsored the event, to account for our spendings. As the l.g.o page about the budgets is protected, I can't add it myself. regards, -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] GUADEC 2012 Bids page updated
Thanks Bob! Might I suggest putting a short paragraph suggesting Belgium, France or Italy as our preferred choice, sincewe are in Germany this year, and were in .nl last year? Thanks, Dave. Bob Murphy wrote: Hi, I updated http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/2012/Bids with cities and contact names from the GNOME 3 release party list. Best regards, Bob ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Dates format for Desktop Summit 2011 announced
Hi Gil, Gil Forcada wrote: So criticism was expected? I understood as a set-in-stone decision :) Feedback was expected... some of this *is* set in stone, but I definitely prefer hearing concerns now, so that we can try to address them. Just from an organizational PoV: having the core days in the first day (aka August 2nd) with the joint conference (so ~1000 attendees) I think it's a terrible idea! This year's GUADEC with the two pre-conference days were wonderful in terms or setting everything up, not just the registration desk per-se, but the network, the signaling, getting all the volunteers around and up to speed ... So in short, one day as registration/pre-conference/hackfest/BoF day it should be a must for all conferences that everyone expects to run smoothly. We won't have access to the venue before 5pm on the Friday (another event preceding us), unfortunately, and for the bigger halls, we can only have them from Friday to Monday - so this part is indeed set in stone. We anticipate getting the network well planned in advance and getting it up running early - we are hopeful that the CCC will help us plan our network infrastructure, and for those of you in the know, you're aware that there could be no better way to ensure everything works well. For welcome desk registration set-up, volunteer co-ordination and other issues you mention, we will definitely have some issues to work around... we plan to gather brief volunteers group leaders on Friday night (both for the set-up to help ensure smooth running during the conference) and Saturday morning before the start of the conference, we are thinking about having someone help with on-site logistics (running on-the-ground operations communications, ensuring that everyone who needs volunteers has them, and ensuring that no volunteers are being overworked). There is one additional complication which will make things fun interesting - the rooms we have for BOFs hacking from Tuesday through Friday are in a different building (literally just across the street) from where the bigger talks will be. So we also need to co-ordinate a tear-down set-up on Monday evening, where we will need a lot of help. You're dead right to raise these concerns. We will of course try to mitigate the effect you mention, and will do as much as possible to ensure that everything is ready for Saturday morning. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Dates format for Desktop Summit 2011 announced
Hi, Johannes Schmid wrote: I know that we discussed in the first meeting to have a pre-registration the day before and don't start the first day before 12 to allow smooth registration. Don't know if they changed everything back in the second meeting... I don't think it makes sense to start the conference at 12 on Saturday. 10, maybe. But we only have 3 days of talks - sacrificing a half day seems a lot. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Dates format for Desktop Summit 2011 announced
Hi, Dave Neary wrote: snip Three things are worth singing out to GUADEC attendees as significant differences from previous events. First, the conference will be held later than usual, on 6-12 August. snip Second is the conference format. snip Third, following a lot of feedback after Gran Canaria, the desktop summit will have one papers committee made up of people from GNOME and KDE this year. snip This the Free Desktop Conference - it seems like a natural place for people from Xorg, freedesktop.org and desktop applications to gather and address common problems. snip Just wanted to say I'm glad that there seems to be no opposition/criticism of these core issues. The call for content for the Desktop Summit will open in February, and hopefully we will be able to start announcing sponsors and keynote speakers very soon. Looking forward to seeing you all in Berlin! Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] Dates format for Desktop Summit 2011 announced
Hi all, As some of you may have noticed, the Desktop Summit dates, format and location were announced today [1] - and we have an updated website online [2]. Three things are worth singing out to GUADEC attendees as significant differences from previous events. First, the conference will be held later than usual, on 6-12 August. This was a constraint imposed by the university, related to German university schedules (students have classes in Germany right up to mid July). This week was the earliest we could hold the conference. Second is the conference format. We will be following roughly the same format as we did in Gran Canaria - three days of organised talks and keynotes, which will be held in four big lecture halls, and four days of BOFs, hackfests and related activities. The foundation annual general meeting is provisionally scheduled for Tuesday 9th, and teams will be invited to schedule BOFs, team meetings, hackfests and related attendee-generated content on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday - there are a selection of rooms of varying sizes available for sessions every day. The conference closing will thus be on Monday evening, before the BOF days, since we expect that some people will decide to leave before the end of the week. Third, following a lot of feedback after Gran Canaria, the desktop summit will have one papers committee made up of people from GNOME and KDE this year. There will be one call for content, and the content committee will decide on the presentations to accept together. This should help overcome the impression that many people had last year that Gran Canaria felt like two different conferences held in the same place at the same time, but with no real interaction between the communities. We also welcome proposals from outside KDE GNOME this year. Personally, I would love to see application developers building on the platform giving us feedback on what they need, *and* core OS developers whose work *we* build on come along to hear what we're missing. This the Free Desktop Conference - it seems like a natural place for people from Xorg, freedesktop.org and desktop applications to gather and address common problems. I've been told reliably that the board is planning on publishing the feedback they received from attendees from this year's GUADEC soon - and we have definitely taken this into account so far when planning the next year's conference, within the constraints which we have. I'm looking forward to a great conference! Cheers, Dave. [1] http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2010/10/06/kde-and-gnome-desktop-summit-2011-from-6-to-12-august/ [2] http://www.desktopsummit.org -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] GUADEC feedback wanted
Hi all, A few weeks ago, Bastein Nocera from the board posted a request for feedback on GUADEC to a number of GNOME lists. I found out last week that it didn't get sent here, however - and since not everyone who attends GUADEC is a foundation member, I thought there might be some people here who would also like to give some feedback on past events. The call for feedback is here: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2010-August/msg00022.html Thanks! Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Tram congress ticket ?
Hi, Frederic Crozat wrote: on GUADEC pdf file, it is explained there might be 3-days or 5-days tram ticket available from GUADEC registration. Were you able to get those or should attendees buy tickets or multi-day tickets at Den Haag Central Station instead ? (I'm not sure which tickets are more interesting, for 3 days from/to Hotel to guadec and parties) ? I got a 15 strip stripkart for €7.60 in the Hangue HS station. That's good for 7.5 single trips within the Hague., which will do me better than 3 days. Cheers, Dave. ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Tram congress ticket ?
Hi, Frederic Crozat wrote: on GUADEC pdf file, it is explained there might be 3-days or 5-days tram ticket available from GUADEC registration. Were you able to get those or should attendees buy tickets or multi-day tickets at Den Haag Central Station instead ? (I'm not sure which tickets are more interesting, for 3 days from/to Hotel to guadec and parties) ? I got a 15 strip stripkart for €7.60 in the Hangue HS station. That's good for 7.5 single trips within the Hague., which will do me better than 3 days. Cheers, Dave. ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] SMASHED '10
Hi all, The original SMASHED had a basic idea - have a few bottles of really nice whisk(e)y and share them around. I for one would really like to go back to the original idea, rather than the get plastered on cheap paint thinner route. Last year we had a few nice bottle and a few bottle which people brought along because they felt obliged not to come empty-handed. I for one would prefer not to spend €50-€70 on a bottle which will be a curtain-opener for a bender :) If anyone is interested, I would be well on for chipping in (say) €10 or €20 per participant and getting 3 or 4 really nice bottles for the beach party, though. If we want to start with a hard-core group of SMASHED regulars so that we're ensured 3 bottles for €120-€150 or so have anyone else who wants to chip in to participate once the bottles are broken out, then great! The basic idea - 3 or 4 really good bottles that we savour appreciate. Who's interested? (If anyone knows any regular SMASHEDers that I've missed out who might be interested, please forward). Cheers, Dave. PS. For getting the bottles, we should first figure out how much we have, and then have some trusted malters buy the swag. I can chip in a Redbreast 12yo to start us off. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] FreeFA match, update?
Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: El lun, 19-07-2010 a las 18:23 +0200, Dave Neary escribió: Wednesday is a core day, you know? I thought we started on Thursday. http://guadec.org/index.php/guadec/2010/schedConf/overview http://guadec.org/index.php/guadec/2010/schedConf/program Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Speaking Details
Hi, Shaun McCance wrote: I see on the schedule that speaking slots are 45 minutes each, but there's no scheduled transition time between presentations. Are there any guidelines about how long we should talk, and how much time we should leave for questions and for the next speaker to set up? Is five minutes enough? You should plan to finish your session (including questions) at 40 mins. Some people like taking questions all along, some prefer questions at the end. Either way, if you like taking questions, don't count on speaking for more than 30 mins. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Registration question
Hi Reinout, Reinout van Schouwen wrote: I know, I am waiting for our registration back-end team to figure out if upgrading registration level is possible. In the mean time, it may be easier for you to just re-register on the level you want and I can manually cancel your previous order. I'm sure that we can figure out an easy way to manually create a registration and drop the other one. In fact, we will need to do this for training attendees also to have standard or pro badges ready for them at the desk... who should I be talking to about this? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Please provide me with your phone number
Hi, Olav Vitters wrote: Could every GUADEC 2010 volunteer please share with me: 1) your phone number 2) your live.gnome.org wiki account name Just so we can contact in case of emergencies. Your phone number will only be shared with selected volunteers. *** Make sure to reply to me only, not to the list!! *** My phone number is in my sig, usually :) so I don't mind sharing with the list: Mob: +33 6 77 01 92 13 lgo page: DaveNeary Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] Changing link on training page
Hi guys, If you don't mind, I'd like to have the link to http://guadec.org changed to https://register.guadec.org on http://www.guadec.org/index.php/guadec/2010/schedConf/training in this line: You can register for the GUADEC training course at http://guadec.org/; Also, if I could have a badge (something like Register now) linked to register.guadec.org also, that would be great (see the top of the OSCON page and attached PNG for the kind of thing I'm thinking of - I'm no artist, but it's the kind of thing that might be good). (attachment removed because it was too big - available at http://www.neary-consulting.com/docs/register_button.png) Thanks! Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] GUADEC merchandise update
Hi, Gaël Hernandez wrote: Adult merchandise --- - 100 baseball caps with GNOME logo - 150 posters of GUADEC. Does anyone on the design list have a good design for a poster already? - 100 pair of socks with GNOME logo - 20 ties with GNOME foots such as http://picasaweb.google.com/elgaelo/GUADEC?authkey=Gv1sRgCILws-DL8Y-zGw#5482378396567426066. There is a bunch of possible colors so I would appreciate your feedback for a good neutral-appealing color! - 96 (mininum order) of beach towels with GNOME foot - 100 beach flip-flops with GNOME logo on the stripes. - 500 flexible keyrings shaped as a GNOME foot - Hand-made sweets with GNOME foot, http://www.papabubble.nl/specials. Do you guys like it? I've requested a quotation just in case. I would suggest choosing 2 or 3 of these items - perhaps posters, socks and flip-flops? I wouldn't go way overboard. Also, you haven't listed t-shirts - I assume that there will be some adult tees? I don't think we'd sell 100 towels, so I'd drop that item. Similarly, I'm not sure we'd sell 20 ties or 500 keyrings. Children/baby merchandise --- - 50 children t-shirts (10 units for each size: 4yo, 6yo, 8yo, 10yo and 12 yo) Looks good. - 50 children junior flip-flops with GNOME logo on the stripes - 20 pairs of kids shoes, such as this http://picasaweb.google.com/elgaelo/GUADEC?authkey=Gv1sRgCILws-DL8Y-zGw#5482378282325179522. What do you guys think? Colors can change, that was just a test! Not so sure... children's shoe sizes are tricky we don't want to have to keep stock. - 10 baby bodysuits, such as http://picasaweb.google.com/elgaelo/GUADEC?authkey=Gv1sRgCILws-DL8Y-zGw#5482378281831289682. For the dads, do you guys think it's better to have white/grey neutral color or we go for 5 blue and 5 pink bodysuits? These look great! White is fine. - Baby dummies with GNOME foot such as http://www.mydummy.co.uk/Shop2.aspx, I've also requested a quotation. Depending on the price... I'd buy a couple, but they'll probably be too expensive for me :) For the cuddle-toys, any custom made toy had a production time of 12 weeks aprox, so we are late :( Sounds fine too. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] [guadec-local] GUADEC update
Koen Martens wrote: On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 04:21:54PM +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Juanjo Marín wrote: For ideas on more novel goods, flip flops, beach towels, socks and ties come to mind. And of course (I know I'm repeating myself...) children's apparel. What about some bibs, for gnomers babies ? Sure! I think bibs would work great. Dummies too, maybe. What the heck are bibs and dummies?? http://www.bibsetc.com/babybibs.html http://www.babycentre.co.uk/baby/dailycare/dummiespacifiers/#2 I actually think that bibs dummies might not sell well because they only concern small babies (3yo), whereas kids Ts are for all kids. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] [guadec-local] GUADEC update
Hi Gael, Gaël Hernandez wrote: What do you guys think of sesame street cuddly toys? http://www.cuddlykingdom.com/gund-sesame-street-hand-puppet-grover-p-2539.html As I mentioned elsewhere, it seems a bit like brand dilution to mix up GNOME sesame street - and in my experience small-volume plush toy orders tend to push the prices up to where it's not reasonable - I wouldn't buy a small teddy-bear for €15 or €20 but (IIRC) that is what the RRP would be. For ideas on more novel goods, flip flops, beach towels, socks and ties come to mind. And of course (I know I'm repeating myself...) children's apparel. Thanks! Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] [guadec-local] GUADEC update
Hi, Juanjo Marín wrote: For ideas on more novel goods, flip flops, beach towels, socks and ties come to mind. And of course (I know I'm repeating myself...) children's apparel. What about some bibs, for gnomers babies ? Sure! I think bibs would work great. Dummies too, maybe. Anyway, I feel that quantity is the big issue here. It's a sign that the GNOME crowd are getting old... last year the kid size shirts sold out in under an hour flat. There's a lot of parents, and they do like to take home pressies from their week away from home. I would guess that there will be more parents of babies, toddlers and infants than bigger kids, but I don't think I'm atypical with kids aged 8, 5 and 3. Do we need a survey to get some numbers? I'd say pick 2 types of products (t-shirts and body-suits for clothes, and one other thing - maybe dummies or bibs) and get 10 of each size up to 10 years old (older than 10 an adult S sized t-shirt is probably OK). Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] GUADEC update
Hi there! Koen Martens wrote: Gaël Hernandez has taken on the “other swag” project. He is looking for input on the cool kinds of conference stuff that people like, so please drop him a note if you want something besides the typical “conference squeeze ball”. (Personal suggestion: GUADEC superhero toys!!) All profits from sales will go directly the GNOME foundation, who will continue sponsoring travel grants for participants. Was my suggestion of children's sizes taken on board? Many GNOME hackers are growing older now and would like to be able to bring branded goods home to sons daughters as gifts from their week away from home - the children's bodysuits and t-shirts sold out in about 10 minutes last year. I would definitely like 3 GNOME t-shirts (size 3yo, 5-6yo and 8-9yo)! Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] t-shirt designs
I really like the black shirts. Dave. Koen Martens wrote: FYI, Erik came up with a few designs for tshirts and badges: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/guadec-design-list/2010-June/msg00012.html If you have input, now would be a good time (as opposed to posting 'i dont like it' in two weeks, when the design is at the printers :), preferably directly to the design list. Gr, Koen ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Screaming Macaques?
Hi, Lucas Rocha wrote: Organizers: in case someone is interested in organizing that, an initial list of what kind of things are needed to make the gig happen can be found here: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMusicianIndex/Guadec2008Concert See the Equipment to rent section. For something like this, I think it would be appreciated if the band took responsibility for sourcing instrument rental and co-ordinated with party organisers for an opportunity to have a live band - they may not be aware of the tradition of Drooling Macaque, and at this stage they're in crunch time getting everything to do with facilities finalised (so it's not that nice to create a lot of new work for them at shortish notice). Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Getting the guadec schedule online
Hi, Christophe Fergeau wrote: Looking at these links, I just realized we need to pick nicer names than Big Room, Small Room 1, Small Room 2 as the room names. Even if they are names we make up if they don't have official names. Name of the 3 cities where the 1st three guadecs took place? Which actually fits quite nicely - Paris = big room, Copenhagen and Seville = small rooms 1 and 2, and if there's a 4th room (press room or whatever) then Dublin and Kristiansand are standing in waiting. I like it. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Accommodation
Hi, Reinout van Schouwen wrote: Op woensdag 12-05-2010 om 16:58 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Dave There is also this: http://www.duinhorst.nl/en/prices/tourism/ Sure, but if you want this, I would recommend to rent bikes to get to and from the camping site. Public transport connections between the venue and Duinhorst aren't that great! What could be more Dutch than using a bike to get around every day? How much is bike rental for a week? Cheaper than a weekly pass for the trams busses? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] GUADEC Public Registration is Open!
Hi, Shaun McCance wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 21:36 +0200, Koen Martens wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:28:24PM -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: The way the page is formatted, it looks like the registration form is for the training session, which I think it isn't. Can we add another second-level header above the form to set it apart? I've editted the headers a bit, is it more clear now?? Much better, yes. Thank you. Except now it doesn't look like there is any way to register for the training. Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] GUADEC Public Registration is Open!
Hi, Dave Neary wrote: Except now it doesn't look like there is any way to register for the training. Just to be crystal clear: my understanding is that you would have one more item for registration: * GNOME developer training (€1200) - bEarly bird rate - available until June 1st!/b (includes professional registration for GUADEC) Choosing this item will not go to the payment interface, though, but will instead get sent to Stormy me, for generation of an invoice. Thanks! Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] GUADEC Public Registration is Open!
Hi, Koen Martens wrote: On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:39:57AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Just to be crystal clear: my understanding is that you would have one more item for registration: * GNOME developer training (€1200) - bEarly bird rate - available until June 1st!/b (includes professional registration for GUADEC) Choosing this item will not go to the payment interface, though, but will instead get sent to Stormy me, for generation of an invoice. Ok, that would require quite some extra development on the ticket system. I don't like doing extra development on a system that is already in production, because new development needs extensive testing, and there isn't all that much time left. Have I been unclear on this? I have from the start asked that people could register for training through guadec.org, and this has been agreed for months. The only issue (which I pointed out recently) is that invoicing and payment must be separated from GUADEC, for VAT purposes. Can we settle for a form on the training page that you are preparing that is going to be put on guadec.org, that sends the mail to you and stormy? And of course a link from the registration page to the training page, once you're done with that. No, I don't think so. I really want people to be able to register for training through guadec.org. Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] GUADEC Public Registration is Open!
Hi, Koen Martens wrote: On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 02:34:39PM +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Have I been unclear on this? I have from the start asked that people could register for training through guadec.org, and this has been agreed for months. The only issue (which I pointed out recently) is that invoicing and payment must be separated from GUADEC, for VAT purposes. I think things have become unclear in the various emails back and forth. I was really under the impression that I explicitly asked 'do you want training in the registration site YES/NO', and after that I explicitly stated I would take it out completely, to which I have not had an objection. It seems we have been mutually misunderstanding each other. It is vital that people can register for training on guadec.org. It is equally vital that they should not *pay* through guadec.org, but should be invoiced by the foundation. The question you asked, which I answered last week, was this: All i'm saying is that you indicate you don't want people to pay through the guadec registration site for training, is that correct, YES or NO ? And clearly, I do not want people to pay through the guadec registration site. The training page would be on guadec.org, but anyway, we'll hack it in and pray that nothing breaks. I'll send you a preview url once it's in. Great, I appreciate it. Of course, we'd need the training page online as well, because otherwise people would have no idea what they are registering for. Yes, still working on it. Unfortunately I've been distracted by other issues (like this one ;) Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Accommodation
Hi, There is also this: http://www.duinhorst.nl/en/prices/tourism/ Cheers, Dave. Adolfo Benedetti wrote: Hello everyone, This is the cheapest place in scheveningen, pretty close to the event, http://home.tiscali.nl/~elcid/ Cheers, Adolfo 2010/5/12 Koen Martens g...@sonologic.nl: On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 09:12:59AM +0200, Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni wrote: Hi, thanks Koen, Jeroen and William for your hints. Am Sonntag, den 09.05.2010, 21:57 +0200 schrieb Koen Martens: Define 'really low-cost'. less then 10 Eur per night. Well, if you find something that cheap, be sure to let us know because we'd like to put that on the webpages. Gr, Koen ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Fwd: Gnome Design-Thinking Workshop and Lightning Talk
Hi, Koen Martens wrote: On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 12:07:44PM -0400, Mario Gonzalez wrote: My concern is in 60 minutes we can assure 11 or 12 LTs to be presented (5 minutes each), so if we receive 15 proposals or more, what can do with them? Put them in the bench awaiting for some extra time or some other stuff? We currently have 2 slots of 45 minutes for lightning talks, so that's 90 minutes or 18 talks basically. There is some spare room in case we receive considerably more. You should basically count 6 minutes per lightning talk to allow for the time for someone to get off the stage get the next person up. So more like 15 or 16 talks. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] Keynotes coming along OK?
Hi all, I haven't seen any news of keynotes recently, apart from Danny O'Brien. Any news on who's been invited, who's accepted, who's declined? The clock is running down fast at this stage. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Documentation Room at GUADEC
Hi, Koen Martens wrote: We also need to be careful about the training - the procedure if someone wants to register for training is to have the GNOME Foundation issue an invoice for it - we can take the registration online and get the invoices issued afterwards. It's important that it is the foundation doing the billing because of VAT concerns. Stormy, do you need any help getting an invoice terms conditions template you can use email? In that case i will take registration for training completely out of the registration site and let you handle it the way you want it. That's what i sense you're aiming at with the above paragraph, correct? Let's say that there's no reason to block on starting training registration until the SSL cert is ready, since invoicing and payment will be done differently. If it is possible to have a simple form where people can sign up to get more information or register for training straight away, then I'd be delighted to see that happen. Thanks! Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Documentation Room at GUADEC
Hi, Koen Martens wrote: The unoccopied rooms are not booked. If we need to book those, we'll pay extra for them. You can book some time in the BoF room: http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/2010/Schedule/BOF First come, first serve. So there is only one BOF room? Thanks, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Documentation Room at GUADEC
Hi, Koen Martens wrote: All i'm saying is that you indicate you don't want people to pay through the guadec registration site for training, is that correct, YES or NO ? YES. Invoicing should be done for the training by the GNOME Foundation. Imho, payment and billing are two seperate issues, and it would be convenient if people could sign up for training and pay for that with credit card right away, and that is exactly what we've set up now. This is a good point. Although I think that payment and billing are closely tied for VAT purposes. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] Training page
Hi Sense, I believe that you are the person that I should talk to to get a web page up on the site for the training course I'm organising. I have the content for the page, but it will need to be laid out, and I am working with a graphic designer to create a promotional pamphlet to go with the course too. What information do you need from me? Is there a way I can create a page and submit it to you for moderation, or should I just submit the page text sections, and let you do the lay-out? What is the best way to proceed? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Training page
Hi Sense, Sense Hofstede wrote: What I want from you is: what you want on the website and the information that's needed to put that on the website. We could then discuss -- on this list or on IRC -- how we're going to present the information. What I would suggest is to give your sessions the same treatment as we gave the pre-conference: lets put the information on the conference's overview page. We could then link to it from other locations using anchors if necessary. I should gather logos to send you - for the GNOME Foundation and GUADEC you already have everything you need. I've attached a Neary Consulting logo which you can scale to required size. I'd suggest that it will be really useful to have a separate page, with all of the information related to the training, rather than have all of the text below on the conference overview page. We don't have a page-submission-and-review system, unfortunately, so I think it would be best if you'd send me the content for the website. Here goes: Title: GNOME Foundation (logo) GUADEC 2010 GNOME developer training July 26 - 27, 2010 The Hague, The Netherlands GUADEC (logo) Byline: Give your Linux developers wings (this is corny - any better ideas welcome, prefereably not infringing Red Bull's trademarks ;)) Pitch: The GNOME Developer Training sessions at GUADEC are designed to give experienced software developers the tools that they need to get the most out of developing free software in an open community. Covering common Linux development tools, the GNOME and FreeDesktop.org development platform, and the social dynamics of contributing to community projects, this course will put extra tools in your developer's toolbox. This two day course include a hands-on practical session, and an in-depth overview of the social aspect of community development, including how to get your work upstream and how to influence the direction of upstream projects. Conference attendance includes a full professional pass for GUADEC, the flagship annual conference of the GNOME project, giving you access to three days of presentations, BOFs and tutorials, for a value of €250. Pricing: 2 days training course + professional registration for GUADEC 2010 (value €250): €1500 Early bird price (for registrations before June 1st 2010): €1200 Includes delivery of printed training material related to the course, and meals and refreshments during training. To ensure the highest quality, space is strictly limited, we encourage you to register early to guarantee availability. You can register for the GUADEC training course at http://www.guadec.org Syllabus: The course is made up of four half-day modules, including: Developer tools and development environments: * Source control - git, svn, bzr * Using autotools * Standard GNOME build dependencies their purposes (pkgconfig, intltool, gtk-doc) * Cross-compilation environments (Scratchbox, OpenEmbedded) * Debugger (gdb, Nemiver) * Valgrind (including memcheck, Massif, kcachegrind, Callgrind) * Other developer tools: sar, sysprof, bootchart The GNOME platform: * glib and GObject * GTK+ and Clutter * Using Glade and GtkBuilder * DBus, DFeet, registering and calling DBus APIs * GConf * GStreamer * Telepathy * Language bindings - C++, Java, C#, Python, Vala A Hands-on Practical Workshop: * Set up a GNOME development environment * Write a complete GNOME application in Python * Integrate with the GNOME desktop Community development * Community communication forums (mailing lists, forums, IRC, Bugzilla, source control) * Effective community participation, community social norms * Project governance - how things get done * Getting changes upstream * Getting to maintainer - how to make friends and influence people * Building a vibrant community Training run by Neary Consulting (logo) on behalf of the GNOME Foundation The overview page in its current from can be found at http://guadec.org/index.php/guadec/2010/schedConf/overview. As you can see we've called your slot 'Training'. A more descriptive name would be better, do you have any suggestions? Developer training perhaps? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org inline: neary_consulting.png___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Terms and conditions for registration
Hi, Reinout van Schouwen wrote: Op donderdag 29-04-2010 om 13:25 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Koen Martens: Price of a shirt with print varies between EUR 5 for crappy to EUR 20/25 for good quality shirt print. Also depending on area of shirt covered in print, and number of colors used. I really believe we should avoid crappy quality shirts. Either we have good ones or we don't have them at all. The kind of shirts that you wear once and then throw away is a complete waste of precious source materials. I really believe that we should avoid expensive. Anything more than €10 per shirt (production cost, VAT included) is just too expensive (that corresponds to a sale price for the t-shirt of €20, given that t-shirts generally mark up over 100%). Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Lightning Talks organization
Hi, Koen Martens wrote: I'm not sure what would be the most convenient way of storing these files? Some webserver somewhere (which one)? Some modern cloud storage stuff? gnome-papers mailing list archives? Something else? On the wiki at live.gnome.org ? We might want to look into locking access to those files then, which i'm sure is possible. The wiki isn't really well suited to this kind of thing. It's better to use something like Ubuntu One, or even an FTP server. Have people send their PDFs as email attachments centralise afterwards, rather than relying on people uploading the file to the right place. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] BoFs (was Re: Talk Schedule)
Hi, Is there only one BOF room? I was thinking that we could have the training sessions included in that timetable, and maybe the foundation AGM. I thought we had 2 or 3 rooms available on Monday Tuesday for BOFs. Cheers, Dave. Christophe Fergeau wrote: Hey! 2010/4/20 Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org: Christophe Fergeau wrote: How will it be organized? Just a wiki page with slots and people putting their BoF sessions on it? Was there any public announcement about this room? This sounds good to me. A table with the room names for column headers and 1 hour blocks in a wiki, and an announcement to a number of places that there is BOF space, and ideally adding some seed events so that people feel empowered to add their own BOFs. Koen just added http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/2010/Schedule/BOF :) Thanks! Christophe -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Terms and conditions for registration
Hi, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: The discussion was about the registration fee, not the travel sponsorships. So, this is the last thing I will answer. It was in that context I was speaking. I hope you don't mind me replying again - I feel quite misunderstood, so it seems I haven't explained well up until now. I have heard other versions as well, such as, people who do not work in the desktop, hence there is not budget for them to attend to GUADEC, but they are GNOME contributors in their spare time. Also, I have heard that some companies have a number of slots available for hackers to attend to GUADEC (limited funds), so, it is not possible to pay all of them. So, you can not extrapolate that comment to the whole community. Personally, I do not like your idea of banning people (directly or indirectly) for sponsorship because they work for a company who develop GNOME. Simply it does not makes sense. This is not my idea, and I don't like you saying that it is. My idea is to tell people that GUADEC is not a free conference. And if someone says that that will prevent them from attending, offer to make an exception for them. My point is that €100 less spent registering for the conference is €100 less for the travel budget. And that if you *are* working for a company on GNOME, then your first request should be to your employer, before you ask the GNOME Foundation to help pay your way. If you ask, and your request is declined, then of course, your application will be judged on its merits (and among those merits is, IMHO, whether you can afford to may part of your costs yourself). I would just remind these people that attending GUADEC provides enormous value to your employers, that the work you do during the week is work, even if you enjoy it, and that the results of GUADEC make themselves felt right up to the Semptember release (and I have data to back this up) - so you should have no qualms asking your employer to pay your way, or register you for the conference at the appropriate level, rather than cheating the foundation of a few euros on the grounds that you're sponsoring. Nobody is cheating and nobody from the community should feel that for requesting sponsorship to attend to GUADEC or a hackfest. Here is where I feel the most misunderstood. Take these two phrases together: 1. I have heard (of one former sponsor) that there were unofficial instructions to certain employees to register for the €0 rate because we already support the GNOME Foundation, and why should we pay twice 2. You should have no qualms asking your employer to pay your way, or register you for the conference at the appropriate level, rather than cheating the foundation of a few euros on the grounds that you're sponsoring. Note in the first statement - not we can't afford to, not if you don't do that, you can't go, just we don't want to pay. And I stand by my statement that this is cheating the foundation of a few euros by registering a professional as a hobbyist or even for €0. Maybe I'm being a bit hard - I know that companies have travel budgets to respect, and that those budgets have been cut drastically over the past two years, but at some stage, like I said, the conference costs money needs to be paid for, and I don't want to see some companies taking advantage of the generosity of others, or reducing our travel budget for people who couldn't afford to come otherwise. What are you talking about? Nobody is taking advantage of the generosity of other. If one company plays by the rules and registers their employees at the pro rate and another does not, then the latter is taking advantage of the former. You can not treat as cheaters the companies who sponsor hackfests and GNOME events because they can not send all their employees who want to attend to GUADEC. The employees that are not send by their employers are not less contributors because they work for a company. Everybody who need sponsorship is welcomed to apply for it. It is up to the Travel Committee to decide who and how will get sponsored at the end. The process is clear. You must learn to trust people. GNOME is people. GNOME is people has become the Win Every Argument thing to say... The burden of getting someone to GUADEC is not ours to bear. It is theirs. We can help, and that's great, but we have an obligation to help as many people as possible, and those who will provide the greatest value to the conference especially, and to do that people need to bear some of the financial burden. I'll say the same thing to you that I said to Diego, Germán, if you turn this into the Big Bad Dave who is grabbing money wherever he can, you're only polarising the discussion, and avoiding the tough budgetary choices we have - the end result will be a smaller travel budget fewer people helped in the end. Anyway - I'm not going to be the bad guy to get beat up on any more on this thread. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary
Re: [guadec-list] Terms and conditions for registration
Hi, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: It's not our job to police how honest is people when they sign up, or ask everyone for explanations when they are working for a GNOME company but they sign up as 0 €. Take my case: I work for a GNOME company and I'll sign up for 0 € because I'm pragmatically and statistically poor. I use all my earned money to pay for tuition fees at university and when GUADEC comes to pay for my not-so-cheap visa/s and taxes. I don't mean to be indiscrete, but have you asked your employer/manager to pay your travel, accommodation registration for the conference? I would hope that every GNOME person working professionally on GNOME (even as an intern or on a short-term contract - don't sell yourself short, your employer is getting a great deal by getting an experience hacker at graduate prices) would not be shy about requesting that expenses for GUADEC be reimbursed by the company, rather than by the GNOME Foundation. In fact, this is one of the things which has, in the past, gotten me angry - when I hear that there are unofficial instructions to certain employees to register for the €0 rate because we already support the GNOME Foundation, and why should we pay twice (yes, I have heard this), or when I hear that there are hackers who take holidays and pay their own way or apply for sponsorship without ever asking their manager to attend as part of their work, because they assume the request would be denied... I would just remind these people that attending GUADEC provides enormous value to your employers, that the work you do during the week is work, even if you enjoy it, and that the results of GUADEC make themselves felt right up to the Semptember release (and I have data to back this up) - so you should have no qualms asking your employer to pay your way, or register you for the conference at the appropriate level, rather than cheating the foundation of a few euros on the grounds that you're sponsoring. Maybe I'm being a bit hard - I know that companies have travel budgets to respect, and that those budgets have been cut drastically over the past two years, but at some stage, like I said, the conference costs money needs to be paid for, and I don't want to see some companies taking advantage of the generosity of others, or reducing our travel budget for people who couldn't afford to come otherwise. I don't think my sponsorship is a payment and I don't think I'm cheating GNOME or GUADEC organizers. I'm sure others are in the same situation, no matter how 20+ they are or for whom they work. Diego, I think it's an error to try and reduce this to the mean Dave who wants to make us poor people pay. There's a budget. There's a financial situation, and a reduced budget, and organisational budgetary constraints of which you're aware, and what I expect is for everyone to have solidarity with the GNOME community, to ensure that as many GNOME hackers as possible can get to the Hague. To make GUADEC the best conference possible. And if we start saying to people sign up for €0 if you want, we won't check, that's the wrong message to send. I'd prefer to send the message Sign up for €100 if you can, it will help others attend the conference. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Terms and conditions for registration
Philip Van Hoof wrote: That's all I'm saying, is that when it comes to the financial outlay security of the conference, I think there should be a registration fee, which should be waived generously. But the default option should definitely be pay the fee. No, the foundation is supposed to attract sponsors for the purpose of paying for that. If it fails at this, it fails at its purpose. And that means we have to start replacing the people that run it, instead of starting to ask registration fees at a conference that always worked fine the way it worked in the past. I can run a conference with free entrance for 300 or 400 people, no problem. 500 or 600, not so much. Organisational effort and costs go up exponentially as the size of a conference increases, which is why OSCON costs $750 to attend, in spite of being well sponsored. Anyway - in the past, GUADEC has had a registration fee - it's been €30, £30, and €50. Last year, there wasn't one, but there were no free conference Tees either. So if you're saying that GUADEC should work the way it has in the past, I answer Yes, absolutely, with a registration fee. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Talk Schedule
Hi, Christophe Fergeau wrote: Emmanuele suggested an alternate schedule which I like too, but which gives us less slots: I like this too. 9.30-10.30 first keynote 10.30-11.00 break (people can talk, have a coffee, ...) 11.00-11.45 talk slot 11.45-12.30 talk slot 12.30-13.30 lunch break (can also be 12.30-14.00) 13.30-14.30 keynote 14.30-15.15 talk slot 15.15-16.00 talk slot 16.00-16.45 talk slot 16.45-17.30 talk slot If we can get 15 minutes more from somewhere, we can have 1 more slot in the afternoon. The answer seems simple: 40 minute keynotes. If you can have one one-hour plenary for lightning talks as well (in addition to keynotes, but maybe if we have trouble finding keynotes we can use lightning talks as one) that would be great! Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Terms and conditions for registration
Hi, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: I'm OK with a two-class society where people who pay more get a little more and people who pay nothing get a little less. Events cost money, and we have to pay for them somehow. I don't want to encourage people to think of the code they write or time they spend as payment for stuff they get off the foundation. This would be a Very Bad Thing. It is wrong to assume that somebody goes for free if he or she does not pay a registration fee. Any person must spend at least €300-€400 to attend to GUADEC. What is wrong is to consider that the GNOME Foundation owes any GNOME developers free entry to the conference. As I said, these things cost money, and must be paid for, and we also want to pay for hackfests and sysadmins and executive directors and travel subsidies... What you said is exactly right - for a core contributor, a financial inability to come should not be a barrier to attendance. But when I see people employed by companies to work on GNOME saying that they can't afford a €100 registration fee, I get upset. When I see people who can clearly afford €100 to register (or €250 for a pro registration that they could expense to their employer) paying nothing, and getting the same conference experience as I get paying €100, I get very upset. And when I see people who have never made a substantial contribution to GNOME apply for, and obtain, travel subsidies to attend, that makes me really, really upset. Upset enough to pay for the €0 option rather than subsidise people who could afford to pay a little themselves. If you add people outside of EU, that must have an extra insurance (€100), some of them requires visa (€100-€200), several contributors are students and does not have any income, some of them works as volunteers in their extra time, so some of them or have to ask for vacation in their jobs or permission without earn any salary. We have done a lot to ensure that we can subsidise travel and accommodation costs for those who need that. And this is also why I've been pushing for a very low cost (maybe free) accommodation option where we can house people who can't afford a hotel room. If you still think they want a fee pass because they only write code, snip Germán, let's make sure we understand each other. Koen talked about not wanting to have a different conference pack for people who pay 0, €100 or €250, so as not to undervalue people who have written 30,000 lines of code. What I'm saying is that no matter how much code you've written, you should not feel *entitled* to anything. You haven't *earned* anything off the GNOME Foundation. The foundation operates (or at least, should operate) as a social state - from each according to their means, to each according to their needs. If you're attending on your own and can afford to pay €100 as a conference fee, then do so - and you'll get a nice t-shirt mug for your trouble. If you're attending on behalf of your employer can expense the conference fee, pay the top amount (which is pretty cheap as conferences go). You also get the t-shirt mug, and attendance to a pros-only evening reception. That's all I'm saying, is that when it comes to the financial outlay security of the conference, I think there should be a registration fee, which should be waived generously. But the default option should definitely be pay the fee. I do prefer a more positive message for those contributors who can pay the fee instead speaking about two-class society which sound negative for those who can not afford it. Yes! The positive message is: You're helping GNOME and getting something that you wouldn't otherwise get! Like FOSDEM. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Terms and conditions for registration
Hi, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: The purchaser is responsible for any loss, theft or damage to the ticket. /pp The organisation reserves the right to cancel ticket bookings that it reasonably suspects to have been made fraudulently. /pp What is the purpose of the ticket? For activities that involves a payment it looks fine. But for contributors who does not have any affiliation it is free of charge, so if they lost their ticket, why do they not request a new one? May be I missed something. Free of charge? I had understood that the conference would be cheap, not free. We have in the past waived conference registration fees for some people, but there's a big difference between waived for some people and free for almost everyone. [...] Visitors consent to being filmed, photographed and recorded as members of the audience. The resulting film footage, images and recordings may be used to promote the event and its activities in print, in the media and on websites. The organisation will endeavour to inform visitors prior to the commencement of a presentation if filming is to take place. This item seems contradictory with the following one: Only if there is no authorised photographic recording equipment :) The unauthorised use of photographic and recording equipment is prohibited. GUADEC attendants like to take a lot of pictures. So, this statement may sound harsh, to say the least. I agree. The unauthorised use of laser pens and mobile phones in all of the venue auditoriums is prohibited. What is the purpose of this item? Please turn off your cellphone during presentations, and don't try to blind the presenter, I imagine. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Terms and conditions for registration
Hi, Koen Martens wrote: It would also be nice if we had some special swag that we could give to people who donate (either by paying the EUR 100 fee or by donating at the door). If we had a button or a tshirt, then people could advertise that they had donated money and possibly encourage others to also consider doing so. How's swag normally organised? Is there a central repository of swag, or does it get produced locally? We now have a central source of t-shirts mugs possible, previously this wasn't the case. I think it makes sense to have packs for each payment level - in the past we have had an evening for professional participants only, and FOSDEM does very well out of their model which is it's free, but if you want to get a t-shirt, you have to donate €25, if you want to get a book magazine subscription as well, you donate €50. The €100 price point is a bit high for just a t-shirt, but if we can figure out some way to make it worthwhile for the people paying then I think we should take that opportunity. Aside from a t-shirt a USB key, what do we have to give? Access to some reception? A special badge? The Friends of GNOME mug? For professional attendees, we should make an effort to have something even more extra - a DVD with presentations sent out afterwards or something. Perhaps we could even work with Miro before the conference to have a DVD of GNOME presentations given as part of the registration pack? These are just ideas, but the core principle is that if you're coming to the conference, you shouldn't get something for nothing - we should make an effort to have some kind of value proposition for attendees to encourage the higher levels where they're appropriate. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Terms and conditions for registration
Hi, Reinout van Schouwen wrote: These are just ideas, but the core principle is that if you're coming to the conference, you shouldn't get something for nothing - we should make an effort to have some kind of value proposition for attendees to encourage the higher levels where they're appropriate. Certainly, but even if people register for the free-of-charge ticket, of course there should still be a good supply of swag for them to buy on the spot! But let's make sure that registered participants get something special that you can't buy... Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Vilanova is not in Galicia
Hi, Just for reference for the correction, the long/lat for Vilanova i la Geltru is 41.2212N/1.73E Cheers, Dave. Claudio Saavedra wrote: http://guadec.org/img/about-map.png Somebody confused the location of Vilanova i la Geltrú, I think :) Claudio ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] GUADEC website needs some love
Hi all, Koen and Sanne, the people leading GUADEC organisation this year, are having a lot of trouble finding people who are motivated and available to ensure that the GUADEC website is up to scratch, looking pretty and appetising, and with relevant content easy to find. First, have a look at http://www.guadec.org to see what the state of play is - it's a standard OpenConferenceWare set-up, from what I can tell, with very little styling or graphical content. Some suggested improvements which could get done quickly would be to start announcing keynotes for this year, or advertising past speakers keynotes (photos and content), creating a GUADEC logo for this year's conference (or at the very least, revisiting the old one which has been in use since 2006), and proposing an alternative layout styling which better matches GNOME's visual identity. Are there people here who have some time over the next couple of weeks to help them? I'm not sure where the CMS is installed, or what would be involved in getting changes made to it, but let's do what we can to improve the site and allow the GUADEC organisers to concentrate on the business of making the conference great. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] website (was Re: Paper submission deadline)
Hi, Koen Martens wrote: Nor do I, but then I don't need them. I guess Koen can set you as a paper reviewer? Ask the webmaster! Who would that be? Is there any way that we can avoid this being only one person? What I could use some help with btw, is getting all this info on the wiki on live.gnome.org. I'm aiming at having team pages set up. I think the discussion about the website can better be moved to guadec-list btw, as it has a larger audience than just guadec-papers. I agree. For getting the information into the wiki, the problem is that only people who have the information can do that (and as my question above shows, I'm still not sure of much of these things). Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Volunteer from The Hague?
Hi Koen, Koen Martens wrote: Some of these things are already picked up by local volunteers.. Not the football match though :) We have someone working with sponsors to find appropriate party venues. For the checklist in the wiki, one of the things I'm missing is the name of the person who is taking responsibility for it, and who people should contact to help out. For example, it may be that you or Sanne are co-ordinating most of these teams, when it could potentially be someone else. It would be useful for each task where there's a team to also list the team lead (and potentially the members of the team on a separate page where the team breaks down what needs doing even further). The accommodation options are already sorted out (there's an email about that on guadec-planning), we're waiting for setting up the local legal entity so we can open up registration. Oh great! Did we get the free/really cheap option I suggested? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Volunteer from The Hague?
Hi, Dave Neary wrote: The accommodation options are already sorted out (there's an email about that on guadec-planning), we're waiting for setting up the local legal entity so we can open up registration. Oh great! Did we get the free/really cheap option I suggested? Did you contact this campsite for prices availability for tents backbacks? http://www.duinhorst.nl/ They appear to offer sites to pitch a tent for €6 per night plus a fee per person. Or this one specialising in surfers? http://www.fastthehague.com/index.php?lng=2 Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Keynote suggestions
Hi, Double 12 wrote: * the guy who designed the special edition Dutch coins You mean Stani (http://www.stani.be)? Yup! He gave a presentation at LGM a couple of years ago, and it went down well, apparently. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] Keynote suggestions
Hi, I just realised I wasn't on this list resubscribed :} I saw the suggestions of Simon Phipps Evan from StatusNet and they're both good! Simon keynoted GUADEC Villanova, but perhaps he's learned some new stuff since then... Evan is a little close to our only confirmed (and yet unannounced) keynote, Danny O'Brien, in subject matter for my taste, but he's a great speaker the cross-over between web desktop is bound to be a big theme in the conference this year. To answer Reinout's question: How is the list of keynote speakers coming along?, my answer is: the list is great, but we don't have anyone co-ordinating keynote invitations right now, so we have only invited one speaker so far. A second invitation is in the workings. I have been pushing on guadec-planning to have someone take control of keynotes (I don't have time this year, really, even though I'm happy to invite anyone I have a contact for if the co-ordinator decides that we want them). The problem is that we have lots of ideas, and we need someone to say OK, this week we invite X, Y and Z, and then hassle them for a reply, and when they say no, we'll invite A, B and C. Right now we just have a big fat keynote wishlist. Here's the synthesis of the list of suggestions I sent to guadec-planning a week or so back: Local: * Ton Roosendaal from Blender * the guy who designed the special edition Dutch coins * Theo Jansen and his kinetic sculptures * Neelie Kroes (EU competition commissioner)... Inspirational/international: Data visualisation: * Hans Riesling, gapminder: http://www.gapminder.org/ * Scott McCloud Design: * Alan Cooper (Author: The Inmates are Running the Asylum) - http://www.cooper.com/ * Philippe Starck (no chance, but why not ask?) * James Dyson * Lisa Strausfeld http://pentagram.com/en/partners/lisa-strausfeld.php * Linda Stone * Diego Rodriguez (IDEO http://metacool.typepad.com/metacool/) Legal: * Eben Moglen * Lawrence Lessig * Pamela Jones (Groklaw fame, fallback for Lessig?) Famous geek: * Don Marti * Alan Kay * Dan Ingalls * Tim Berners Lee * Guido van Rossum (Python for the desktop) * John Carmack (linux desktop as a gaming platform) * James Gosling (Java and the free desktop, java GPL, GTK L/F) * Ken Thompson * Dennis Ritchie * Brian Kernighan Business of software/famous geek: * Scott Berkun - http://www.scottberkun.com/ * Joel Spolsky - http://www.joelonsoftware.com/ * Eric Sink - http://www.ericsink.com/ (previously accepted had to cancel) * Jonathan Schwarz * Steven O'Grady * Mark Shuttleworth (Ubuntu or linux desktop 3rd world) * Miguel de Icaza (Mono?) * Jim Zemlin * Tim O'Reilly * Jim Whitehurst * Michael Tiemann * Nat Friedman * Matt Asay Famous people (Business/web/marketing): * Seth Godin - http://sethgodin.typepad.com/ * Guy Kawasaki - http://www.guykawasaki.com/ * Chris Messina * Hugh McCleod * Merlin Mann (The guy from 43Folders) I'm not sure where these fit in...: * JP Rangaswami * Richard Taylor - GNOME at Weta Digital (no idea if that is a fact) * Ben Hammersley * Jyri Engeström Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Canarias City Run
Hi, I've been waiting a while for availability information for the football facilities. Will we be able to play Wednesday evening, starting 19h30? Are there any high-profile social events planned for Wednesday evening? If the facilities are available, and there is no party planned, let's book 19h30 - 21h for football. If not, let's book 15h - 17h on Thursday. Thanks! Dave. Andre Klapper wrote: Am Freitag, den 29.05.2009, 02:31 +0100 schrieb Alberto Ruiz: 2009/5/28 Diego Escalante Urrelo die...@gnome.org: On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 11:24 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: And I was hoping somebody would try and organise another FreeFA tournament. We've regularly had about 40 people play, which was good. Dieguito, got time in your busy schedule? I can sort that out I. I think we have the high school sport facilities available, need to confirm. So, are there any plans to have this on one of the first days? Would be great. :-) andre -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] [Gcds] Mobile track at Gran Canaria Desktop Summit?
Great! There is a mobile track at GUADEC this year, as well as lots of mobile-related content sprinkled throughout the conference. The mobile track is up on the website now: http://www.grancanariadesktopsummit.org/node/277 I'm figuring out some last minute details for the day, and trying to figure out with Behdad where we can fit in a GNOME Mobile BOF which doesn't conflict with something which would pull a good chunk of people away. I'll keep the list posted here. Cheers, Dave. Andrew Savory wrote: Hi, So, looks like I'm going to be able to make it to GUADEC this year. Obviously, my interest is heavily mobile-related; Dave, did you have any luck with a GNOME mobile-focused day? I skimmed through the GUADEC archive but couldn't see anything definitive. Are there plans for a mobile BOF? Thanks, and hope to meet many of you in a couple of weeks, Andrew. -Original Message- From: mobile-devel-list-boun...@gnome.org [mailto:mobile-devel-list- boun...@gnome.org] On Behalf Of Dave Neary Sent: 17 April 2009 13:49 To: Henri Bergius Cc: guadec-list; GNOME Mobile; g...@grancanariadesktopsummit.org Subject: Re: [Gcds] Mobile track at Gran Canaria Desktop Summit? Hi, I have a feeling that among Nokia related talks in both Akademy GUADEC, we can co-ordinate to make sure that we have no clashes and have a mobile-themed half day in both. Also, I will be inviting people who have proposed mobile-related BOFs to run them as part of the GNOME Mobile day, to give a more development-edge to the day than we have had in previous sessions. We're definitely going to be concentrating on improving the mobile application platform and the user developer experience, through things like GeoClue, PulseAudio, Tracker Nepomuk, Telepathy, synchronisation and more. If we can have part current GNOME Mobile components we should explain evangelise, part New modules we should consider integrating, and part stuff that doesn't exist that we should be creating/liberating, that would be a good day. I'm thinking it would be good to aim for about 20% round-table/60% technical BOF/20% strategic BOF/brainstorm. Cheers, Dave. Henri Bergius wrote: Hi, On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: I too would like to see a mobile and embedded track at GCDS. When I asked about it I was told the tracks evolve from the talks we have submitted. So perhaps we should encourage people on the mobile list to submit lots of talks! We are submitting a proposal about GeoClue and libchamplain. While we also talk about desktop use, mobile track would be quite a natura home for the talk. Stormy /Henri - --- ___ mobile-devel-list mailing list mobile-devel-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-devel-list -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ mobile-devel-list mailing list mobile-devel-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-devel-list ___ Gcds mailing list g...@grancanariadesktopsummit.org http://mail.grancanariadesktopsummit.org/mailman/listinfo/gcds -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Canarias City Run
Hi, Alberto Ruiz wrote: Let me know if you organize it, I can try to help to find a pitch. We can play on the beach as well. If there's any chance of getting the synthetic high-school pitch beside the auditorium, that would be ideal. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] T Shirt information from last year
Hi, Alberto Ruiz wrote: I'm looking after some information on last years T Shirt sizes/sex statistics from the attendants. We are trying to come up with an estimate for this years T shirts and this figures would help us a lot. If anyone knows where to get this info, please let me know ASAP. I gave an estimate of sizes earlier. Please don't get the same number of XL, XXL, XXXL... as in previous years. We run out of small medium t-shirts every year, and are left with multi-XL t-shirts. Suggested distribution: Men's: XXL: 5% XL: 10% L: 45% M: 30% S: 5% Women's: Remaining 5% split roughly evenly among S, M and L Working off 800 units, that's: XXL: 40 XL: 80 L: 360 M: 240 S: 40 Women's: S: 10 M: 20 L: 10 Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] [Fwd: [Gcds] nice prices to fly to gran caaria from spain]
FYI - cheap flights from Spain to Gran Canaria. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ---BeginMessage--- Hi, if you want to fly to GC from Madrid, Seville or Málaga to the event, check the offers you can get from Vueling (direct flight). It can cost you less than 100 € saludos -- Agustín Benito Bethencourt Gerente de ASOLIF gere...@asolif.org http://www.asolif.org ___ Gcds mailing list g...@grancanariadesktopsummit.org http://mail.grancanariadesktopsummit.org/mailman/listinfo/gcds---End Message--- ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] [Gcds] Mobile track at Gran Canaria Desktop Summit?
Hi, Quim Gil wrote: There are potential sessions that are very specific to mobile desktops with no direct implications for 'static desktops', but there is a lot of stuff going on that is initiated by mobile projects or needs but have an impact overall (e.g. presence, bluetooth, connectivity management, search metadata, desktop widgets, media players...). Cornering all this stuff in a mobile track would be as unfair as detach it from the main tracks. Also, even if what most people have nowadays (and therefore what most app developers target) are 'static desktops', when it comes to new developments a lot of the innovation is being pushed by the mobile business and use cases. It's only because the hardware is still not so available and popular that there is less users and less app developers, but if we believe the expectations of Nokia, Intel, Access, LiMo, Canonical... all this is meant to change and the Desktop Summit looks like the right place to highlight this. What makes sense to me is to group presentations which target mobile together in one room one afternoon during the conference, and then have a separate full-day GNOME Mobile workgroup to work on specific issues, and set goals for the project. So, to answer Stormy, I think we need to do both - identify mobile-related content in the main agenda, and have a Mobile workgroup day or half-day during the week (looks like Wednesday or Thursday morning are the best candidates). Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Mobile track at Gran Canaria Desktop Summit?
Hi Eduardo, My intention is to run a mobile day during the conference, after the core days. This day will likely be on Tuesday or Wednesday after the main conference. If anyone has a preference, shout now! (there are already some things in potential conflict which might take core constituents of GNOME Mobile elsewhere, such as the GNOME Foundation advisory board meeting). Cheers, Dave. Eduardo Lima (Etrunko) wrote: [Intentionally cross-posting to GMAE, GUADEC and GCDS] Hi all, As seen in previous editions of both GUADEC and Akademy, there has been growing interest in presentations focused on mobile/embedded environments. In fact, I've even presented a talk during GUADEC in 2007 covering the experience of porting GNOME apps to the Maemo platform. I've done a quick search around and haven't found any specific discussion on this subject yet. The GCDS schedule doesn't cover it neither. So, is there a chance for a mobile track or even having presentations focused on the mobile and embedded platforms in GCDS? Best regards, Etrunko. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] accom in Gran Canaria
Hi Quim, The local team is still in budget and process discussions with the local government - I'm sure you remember what that was like :) I've asked Augustín to come up with a list of hotels we'll definitely be using, even if we don't yet have a means of booking group rates set up - he can't set up these things until the Cabildo confirms which travel agency they will be using for this (the travel agency will give us a cheaper rate a single point of contact for reservations). Hopefully we will be able to have that early next week. The local team is travelling to FOSDEM this weekend, so it's unlikely they'll be able to get anything done before then. Cheers, Dave. Dave Neary wrote: Hi, I'm following up with the local team on this, I'll let ye know what's happening ASAP. Cheers, Dave. Quim Gil wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: The options will be confirmed and made available a little laterAny news on this? I'm trying to deasl with a potentially large group from Nokia and we can't book flights before being certain about accommodation availability and costs. And a related questions are the Call for Papers deadline and decision, since I guess for some the fact of going or not depends on being accepted as speaker or not. Thanks! -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Gnome Conference Invitation
Hi Shahab, It's a bit early to get involved in the organisation of next year's GUADEC, but if you come back again next February or March or so, I am sure that there will be lots of things to do! Cheers, Dave. Shahab Vahabzadeh wrote: Hello, I wanna to came to your next Gnome Conference and I wanna to be a volunteer :), also I am going to help on Gnome-Love. I am ready to any Web Programming and Translation for Gnome... As I am a student and because of my problems here to getting VISA i wanna get an invitation soon what can i do? Can any one send me an invitation ? Thanks -- -- Shahab -- # !/bin/bash # # Technical administrator of Maxnet corporation # # Personal Website : http://www.Shahabv.com # Cell : +98 (914) 302 9413 # ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] hotel and partners
Hi Andy, Best thing to do is to ring the Golden Horn (number I have is +90 (212) 519 74 74 ) and confirm your reservation. If you're reserved in a double room, you're sorted. If not, insist you'd already made a reservation with the group code guadec2008 many weeks ago, and that they must have lost it. I will be doing this today myself, over the weekend the reservations department isn't open. Cheers, Dave. Andy Fitzsimon wrote: Is everyone staying in the Golden Horn in Sirkeci ? whats this i hear about a group code? I'm worried. I was told that a colleage was booking rooms on by behalf but havent heard back from him. So I have no idea what has been arranged on my behalf. This is a problem because i'm not travelling alone. On another note: I'll be travelling with my girlfriend and was wondering if anybody else has partners who want to join her while the conference is on. andy ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Speaker Sponsorship - Book Hotel myself?
Hi, In the absence of a reply from Baris yet, I just want to say that the only way that you can be sure you have a hotel room is if you have booked it. I *believe* that what Baris meant is that the costs of your room would be reimbursed. It is unrealistic to expect the organisers of a conference to book your room for you as well, given the 1001 other things that he needs to do. I'd seriously recommend that anyone in this situation ring the hotel now, ask if there's a room booked under your name, and if there isn't do your best to book one with the group code now. If that doesn't work, try to book a cheap hotel somewhere else. Cheers, Dave. Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 11:21 -0400, Sara Khalatbari wrote: Hi Baris told me that they will take care of the hotel. I guess I should wait a bit more to hear back from him on where I should go, right? I guess so. Being in the same situation as you, I was wondering the same :-) ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] Keynote news: Eric Sink
Hi all, It's with great disappointment that I just found out that Eric Sink is cancelling his GUADEC keynote. Eric's been told by his doctors not to take the trip for health reasons, and while I'm disappointed (I was really looking forward to his keynote), I can of course understand his decision, and I wish him a full speedy recovery. I only just found out, and let Baris know, so I don't know yet what we're going to do given Eric's cancellation. I'll keep you all posted, of course, when I know more. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
[guadec-list] Table quiz cancelled (was: Re: any volunteer?)
Hi all, For the reasons below, we've decided not to do the table quiz. Baris and I weren't on the same wavelength on the requirements of the event. We're now too late to do it properly, and there is no room in the schedule. It's unfortunate, especially for those who have invested time helping get something organised, but since we're now less than a month away with no site and no room on the schedule, I think it's best to call it quits. Thank you all for your help! Cheers, Dave. Dave Neary wrote: When I proposed this, I had intended it to be an official event - a table quiz is typically a well-oiled event, starting around 8pm, and running until after 10. I can't imagine having one after sessions and before an evening event. Considering that we'd have to finish around 8pm (to give people a chance to get to the evening events) it seems to me like the table quiz no longer fits into the schedule. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Vala on GUADEC
Jonh Wendell wrote: Em Sex, 2008-05-23 às 17:54 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod escreveu: On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 23:30 +0200, Philip Van Hoof wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 18:51 -0300, Jonh Wendell wrote: Is planned some talk about Vala in GUADEC? I'd love to attend one. Agree, I just asked Jürg about this: juergbi pvanhoof: i haven't sent any talk proposal but maybe we can do something small at least Not sure if the organisation at Guadec can schedule something? I can. Not before someone proposes something to me though :). Nobody? :( Has there been a proposal yet? who'd be the good person to give the presentation? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] any volunteer?
Hi, First, thanks for the help! It's great. Julie Upmeyer wrote: So just to be clear..you need a space to hold 150 - 200 people. You will be creating the pub quiz yourself? Also you are bringing your own drinks or you want a place that will sell the to you? Yes, we'll be doing the quiz. No, I don't think we will be bringing drinks, we'd like to have them available. Also to make a reservation for some place you would need to know the exact date of the event. Baris? What evening do you suggest? I just noticed that there are official events already organised for Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday evening (wish I knew that before I announced the table quiz). So that leaves us Tuesday the 8th, or no table quiz, or combining the table quiz with one of the other events. I can try to help arrange something beforehand, but I will not be here for the conference. I will be in USA from July 1 - 23. Sorry to hear that - we need more artists at GUADEC :) Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Summer of Code session @ GUADEC?
Hi, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 13:02 +0200, Ruben Vermeersch wrote: Anyone interested? Sounds great. I can find a slot for it in the schedule. Should also do a BoF or two about it. Sounds like ideal subject matter for a lightning talk session. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Summer of Code session @ GUADEC?
Hi, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 15:15 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 13:02 +0200, Ruben Vermeersch wrote: Anyone interested? Sounds great. I can find a slot for it in the schedule. Should also do a BoF or two about it. Sounds like ideal subject matter for a lightning talk session. That's what I thought. But if more than two/three SoC students want to present their work, I need to add another lightning session as we're pretty full now. I was thinking a full Google Summer of Code lightning talks session, with 12 - 15 GSOC students. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Registration, expensive hotel?
Hi, Murray Cumming wrote: When will registration be open? https://guadec.expectnation.com/guadec08/public/register I'd like to do a group booking for the Openismus employees. Also, isn't the recommended Golden Horn Hotel rather upmarket? I've been to the area and as I remember there are many other cheaper but high quality hotels in Sultanahmet though that was in December. http://guadec.expectnation.com/public/content/accommodation If only I could remember exactly where I stayed before. I've booked into the Golden Horn, but I did find some 2 and 3 star hotels that were cheaper on http://www.istanbulhotels.com/ in Sultanahmet and Taksim: **: Sultanahmet: http://www.cordialhouse.com/ Taksim: http://www.hotelstaristanbul.com/ Taksim: http://www.aryaotel.com/ ***: Sultanahmet: http://www.santasophia.com/ Sultanahmet: http://www.historiahotel.com/ Sultanahmet: http://www.hotelliza.com/ Sultanahmet: http://www.andhotel.com/Eng/default.asp Sultanahmet: http://www.albionhotels.com/ Sultanahmet: http://www.sedirhotels.com/sunlight/ Sultanahmet: http://www.minahotel.com.tr/ Sultanahmet: http://www.adonispalace.com/ Taksim: http://www.hoteltroya.com/ Taksim: http://www.cihangirhotel.com/ Hope that helps! There are definitely a few in there that are cheaper, but I obviously don't know Istanbul, so I don't know what's good bad in there. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
Re: [guadec-list] Registration, expensive hotel?
Hi, I can't testify for the dying, but this place is cheap: http://www.istanbulhostel.net/ €10 per bed in a dorm, €15 per person sharing a double. Cheers, Dave. Andy Fitzsimon wrote: I have a simple question: what is the cheapest place where I wont die. could someone let me know and I'll book asap. On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Murray Cumming wrote: When will registration be open? https://guadec.expectnation.com/guadec08/public/register I'd like to do a group booking for the Openismus employees. Also, isn't the recommended Golden Horn Hotel rather upmarket? I've been to the area and as I remember there are many other cheaper but high quality hotels in Sultanahmet though that was in December. http://guadec.expectnation.com/public/content/accommodation If only I could remember exactly where I stayed before. I've booked into the Golden Horn, but I did find some 2 and 3 star hotels that were cheaper on http://www.istanbulhotels.com/ in Sultanahmet and Taksim: **: Sultanahmet: http://www.cordialhouse.com/ Taksim: http://www.hotelstaristanbul.com/ Taksim: http://www.aryaotel.com/ ***: Sultanahmet: http://www.santasophia.com/ Sultanahmet: http://www.historiahotel.com/ Sultanahmet: http://www.hotelliza.com/ Sultanahmet: http://www.andhotel.com/Eng/default.asp Sultanahmet: http://www.albionhotels.com/ Sultanahmet: http://www.sedirhotels.com/sunlight/ Sultanahmet: http://www.minahotel.com.tr/ Sultanahmet: http://www.adonispalace.com/ Taksim: http://www.hoteltroya.com/ Taksim: http://www.cihangirhotel.com/ Hope that helps! There are definitely a few in there that are cheaper, but I obviously don't know Istanbul, so I don't know what's good bad in there. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ guadec-list mailing list guadec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-list
