Re: Does it make sense to package debops?

Am 24.09.19 um 21:27 schrieb Divan Santana: > Hartmut Goebel writes: > >> I just wonder whether I should package debops, a collection of ansible >> roles for managing Debian systems. >> >> Shall I? > I for one would greatly appreciate this since I run guix and

Re: How to reference external program used in shell-scripts?

e of the major drawbacks of functional deployment, as it requires updating (and esp. downloading) much more packages compared to a rpm/deb based system. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: 01/01: services: Add ‘/usr/bin/env’ special file.

ese scripts are managed by the version control system, shall run from the development tree on envery developers machine and may not even get installed when installing the software as a guix package.  -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | |

Re: "Server does not allow request for unadvertised object"

Am 04.09.19 um 16:19 schrieb Danny Milosavljevic: > [… explanation …] Thanks for the explanation. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible | signature.

Re: How to reference external program used in shell-scripts?

), ansible will pick up the new version. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

"Server does not allow request for unadvertised object"

ow request for unadvertised object c902458863d1d341ffd74970b75e69c2bb848183 @ build-log 16998 55 -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible | signature.asc Descriptio

Re: How to reference external program used in shell-scripts?

quired package is updated, this package will be updated, too. Right? -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

How to reference external program used in shell-scripts?

f the version of pkgB was new enough when bringing the pkgA to Guix, the version does not even really matter. E.g. if the external program is less, git, encfs, or which. So: What is the official recommendations? Is this already been stated in to manual? -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goe

Re: Seeking "complex" system examples / guixops

ex enough to convince me that some "GuixOps" would be helpful, implementing hight level abstraction and more defaults. (This is what I applied for at NGI Zero PET just today). -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compil

Re: Ideas for security grant (was Re: Deadline security grant is August 1st.)

Am 31.07.19 um 14:28 schrieb Hartmut Goebel: > Am 29.07.19 um 18:22 schrieb Pierre Neidhardt: >> Did anyone else apply? I applied last-minute with GuixOp - abstraction layers for defining complex systems on a higher level -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe

Re: Will August 16-18, Berlin actually happen?

Am 01.08.19 um 18:12 schrieb Hartmut Goebel: > I consider traveling to the August 16-18 Meeting in Berlin. Sorry, I did send this to the wrong list! This meeting is planned for GNUet! Sorry for disturbing. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.

Will August 16-18, Berlin actually happen?

arts, which is a bit unfortunate.) Will this meeting actually happen? Is there some kind of agenda already? Who//How many will attend? -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible

Does it make sense to package debops?

Hi, I just wonder whether I should package debops, a collection of ansible roles for managing Debian systems. Shall I? I'm curious since you this is not to support guix. OTOH, ansible is packaged, too, which is not of much use for guix IMHO . -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel

Ideas for security grant (was Re: Deadline security grant is August 1st.)

mer) - Android build system based on guix - and thus being reproducible (Ups, this includes gradle) - KDE/Plasma dektop (would be a smaller amount) What do you think about these ideas? Any other ideas? What is the most important one? -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@cr

Seeking "complex" system examples / guixops

databases, etc. So I'm wondering whether anyone is using guix for this kind of system-setup in a flexible manner and whetehr one could share some examples. Thanks in advance. [1] https://debops.org -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com

Re: gradle not supported?

at uses gradlew to build, what is the best > solution for defining it? As Ricardo already wroe, we are not yet able to bootstrap gradle from source and the gaul is to get a gradle-build-system. If you know java and gradle, we'd heavily appreciate your help on this. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel

Re: qt4 packages

Why drop a package which is still okay, just because it it unmaintained? -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

We reached 10.000 package

Hurrah! GNU Guix now provides 10,026 packages (updated July 12, 2019). Congratulations! And many thanks to everybody who contributed to this great project! -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers

Re: Down with PYTHONPATH!

aber "site-packages" aus dem profile kommen sollen (PYTHONPATH wird in "$GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile" gesetzt 3. python Anwendungen (z.B. pdfposter): JA, im Wrapper Habe ich Fälle übersehen? -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.c

Re: Guix beyond 1.0: let’s have a roadmap!

ng > multiple outputs and generally paying attention to what ‘guix size’ > reports. I was thinking about this, too. E.g. automatically moving header-files and static libs into some ":dev" output. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com

Re: Down with PYTHONPATH!

g we can > make the Python executable figure out from which environment it was > started. This is my plan, see my yesterday's mail: 0cf6e747-48b5-1606-28a0-02fd4d370...@crazy-compilers.com -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | ww

Re: Down with PYTHONPATH!

a script requires a different versions of packages than installed in the profile. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: Down with PYTHONPATH!

Am 17.06.19 um 11:03 schrieb Ludovic Courtès: > How does virtualenv work, if not by setting PYTHONPATH? Appending to Konrads answer: Making the profile a fake virtualenv does not work. See my analysis part 2 (50179a9a-4e29-e729-ee49-ccbb90d9e...@crazy-compilers.com). -- Regards Hartmut Goe

Re: Down with PYTHONPATH!

(which caused a lot of problems, we already solve. But maybe other problem will arise). - If patching getpath.c anyway, we could go for interpreter to determine the correct "installation path" (see above). -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.co

Re: Reviewing KDE Plasma state on Guix System

merge back when they secceed. > You may find the KDE updater useful before you begin packaging new > applications: > > ./pre-inst-env guix refresh -t kde -u Last time I used `-t kde` for updating did not fetch all packages and I'm afraid it still does not, see <https://debbugs.gnu.or

Re: Fingerprint GUI

aunchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui might be helpful. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: Guix system cross-compile

ch name like "x86_64-linux", "armhf-linux" or "aarch64-linux". This is cool! I was not aware of it. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

How-to solve runpath-errors when splitting packages?

; fails. 1) Setting "#:validate-runpath? #f": build passes, but the program does not find the lib. 2) Passing the equivalent of "LDFLAGS=-Wl,-rpath=${out_gtk}/lib -Wl,-rpath=${out_qt}/lib" to configure. This leads to some "recursive dependency error". -- Regards Ha

Re: [urgent] GNU Guix in Outreachy May 2019 round?

eady been done on my personal branch, but there is still some work to to. Not sure whether this will be enough work for such a program -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Spliting a huge package

require uses to install e.g. "gnunet:fs-gui" which is, well, curious for users. What is the intened way to solve this in guix? -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are

Re: maven build system - new insights

Am 01.02.19 um 00:33 schrieb Ricardo Wurmus: > Hartmut Goebel writes: >> The drawback of this approach is: This only works within the >> build-system. Since within a normal environment or profile, there will >> be no such unison repo. Thus for every day's work, users w

Re: maven build system - new insights

m.xml files. Maybe some xml-search-replace would suffice? E.g. implemented using SXPATH [3] [1] https://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-3rd-party-jars-local.html [2] https://github.com/fedora-java/xmvn/blob/master/README.md [3] https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/

maven build system - new insights

ven-debian-helper [11] https://fedora-java.github.io/xmvn/ [12] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/xmvn-minimal/overview/ -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: verbose backtraces when “invoke” fails

Am 21.01.19 um 09:21 schrieb Ricardo Wurmus: > I’d like us to catch the errors raised by “invoke”, so that the output > of a failing build looks nicer again. +1 -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compile

Re: 07/09: gnu: kinit: Use LIBRARY_PATH to search for dynamically loaded libs.

Am 08.01.19 um 18:16 schrieb Ludovic Courtès: > As downstreams, the most reasonable option is to honor the > KDEINIT5_LIBRARY_PATH as you defined it above IMO. I posted a respective patch: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=34021> -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Ha

Re: 07/09: gnu: kinit: Use LIBRARY_PATH to search for dynamically loaded libs.

kinit.git/tree/src/kdeinit/kinit.cpp?h=v5.53.0#n625 [2] https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/18.09/pkgs/development/libraries/kde-frameworks/kinit/kinit-libpath.patch -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Build/test passes locally but fails on hydra?

gsTest::cleanupTestCase() Totals: 3 passed, 4 failed, 0 skipped, 0 blacklisted, 10090ms * Finished testing of KGlobalSettingsTest * -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you t

Re: Better names for Guix versions from git?

Julien Lepiller -- Schönen Gruß Hartmut Goebel Dipl.-Informatiker (univ), CISSP, CSSLP, ISO 27001 Lead Implementer Information Security Management, Security Governance, Secure Software Development Goebel Consult, Landshut http://www.goebel-consult.de Blog: https://www.goe-con.de/blog/35.000-gegen-v

Re: Using a CDN or some other mirror?

s quite a lot IMHO). Is this correct? -- +++hartmut | Hartmut Goebel| | | hart...@goebel-consult.de | www.goebel-consult.de |

Re: Using a CDN or some other mirror?

964 or search the internet for e.g. "cia verizon espionage" [2] https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Gerichtsurteil-BND-darf-weiterhin-Internet-Knoten-De-CIX-anzapfen-4061494.html [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act [4] -- +++hartmut | Hartmut

Re: Using a CDN or some other mirror?

hanges a day. I'm now finishing this discussion, as it is up to you (the core team) to decide. I just wanted to share the idea and arguments. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: Using a CDN or some other mirror?

ances :-) [1] Fedora 28: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/mirrors/Fedora/28 [2] Mageia: https://mirrors.mageia.org/ [3] Debian "Secondary mirrors" in https://www.debian.org/mirror/list -- +++hartmut | Hartmut Goebel| | | hart...@goebel-consult.de | www.goebel-consult.de |

Re: Using a CDN or some other mirror?

already in place for many GNU/Linux distributions. -- +++hartmut | Hartmut Goebel| | | hart...@goebel-consult.de | www.goebel-consult.de |

Re: Add "tags" field to package record?

Am 22.09.2018 um 14:51 schrieb Ludovic Courtès: > Hartmut Goebel skribis: > >> Some packages already provide these via the "properties" field, e.g.: >> >>     (properties `((tags . '("Desktop/KDE" "Utilities" > I agree it would proba

Re: Add "tags" field to package record?

(At least this was common, when I created the template for KDE applications. maybe tis is outdated in the meanwhile.) -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible | signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: https://issues.guix.info

nt on issues and create new ones right from the web > interface, but that’s a little tricky to get right. This would be really, really great! Interacting with debbugs is a pain for occasional users. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com

Re: Firefox 52's end of life, packaging Chromium

tremulous. Thus many, many thanks to those working on it.) -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

Am 30.08.2018 um 14:04 schrieb Ludovic Courtès: > “Guix Continuous” For me this sounds like a fail-save system which will continue running, and running, and running. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.

Re: hiding “guix system” messages

Am 21.08.2018 um 21:02 schrieb Ricardo Wurmus: > What do you think? +1 -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: Web interface pushed

nything I misses? -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: Ensuring we don't break user systems

Julien Lepiller skribis: >> We wouldcreate a new branch, stable, that would be used by guix pull. We >> would continue to push to master or other branches. +1 -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-c

Re: Guix Manual in epub format

cbook $INPUT_FILE_PATH -o out.xml xsltproc $EPUB_XSL out.xml The stylesheet seams to be part of docbook-xsl already. https://github.com/ikrukov/epub does not provide a script, but describes the same approach. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compiler

Re: Chrooting into GuixSD

is the same as for all Linux systems. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Update KDE frameworks to 5.46: requires qtwebengine

pdate". qtwebengine includes chromium, which is not yet packaged AFAIK. Otehrwise what was learned from chromium could be used for qtwebengine - or we could try to make qtwebengine use the system chromium. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-com

Re: Update KDE frameworks to 5.46: trivial test-case fails

Am 30.05.2018 um 17:25 schrieb Leo Famulari: > Yes, please push it to a wip-kde-updates branch. Done: wip-kde-frameworks-update -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thou

Re: An reason qtwebkit is not at 5.11?

Am 30.05.2018 um 17:47 schrieb Hartmut Goebel: > I just discovered, qtwebkit was not updated to 5.11 when qt was. Any > reason for this? Answering myself: There is no qtwebkit 5.11. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www

An reason qtwebkit is not at 5.11?

Hi, I just discovered, qtwebkit was not updated to 5.11 when qt was. Any reason for this? -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible | 0x7B752811BF773B65.asc

Update KDE frameworks to 5.46: trivial test-case fails

Hi, I'm just about to update KDE Framekworks to 5.46, when I find a quite trivial test-case to fail. Since this test-case is about detecting "file" URLs, I'm afraid of pushing the update. May I push it to a WIP-branch instead, thus anybody else could pick up? -- Regards Hart

Re: Display a single "substitute: updating list of substitutes from ..."

ing list of substitutes from 'https://mirror.hydra.gnu.org'... 10.0% -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: Packaging a free Firefox

Am 06.05.2018 um 15:58 schrieb Mike Gerwitz: > I suspect that most Guix users are more technical than average users and > would be much less bothered by a kluge for the time being. I would be bothered by such a kludge, which IMHO is of no use. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut

Re: Packaging a free Firefox

s listed here are no [Free Software](link). Please check the license prior to installing. (More information »»](link) This would make people aware of the problem but still give them the freedom to decide. This is what F-droid does. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel

Re: Packaging a free Firefox

at. Having strong opinions and working towards them is the one side. Convincing people is the other side. Followup-to: alt.religion.free-software, -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: Should python-build-system packages have native-inputs?

ince they are translated to C and then compiled into platform dependent code. > In any > case, it doesn't change the fact that today, the python-build-system > does not cross-compile. In any case, this is a current limitation only :-) -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel

Re: Should python-build-system packages have native-inputs?

I was not aware of python packages are not cross-compiled, thus I can only guess the reason why this is not possible: Python distutils may not be able to *cross*-compile extension modules. Maybe we could work on this.) -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.g

Re: PYTHONPATH - let's systematically tame the baest

egards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

PYTHONPATH - let's systematically tame the baest

Or is this already covered by one of the other cases? -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: a blog post

Gugle a magic guild? Sorry, can't stand this google devoutness. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: Python applications that are also libraries

s we still need "libs" packages with propagation. Even if "deeptools:script" would not propagate its inputs, "somepackage:lib" (required by "deeptools:script") would still need to propagate its inputs. Thus nothing gained. -- Regards H

Re: Python applications that are also libraries

kages including a script, e.g. sphinx and a lot others. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: Treating tests as special case

sponsibility. +1 -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: Python applications that are also libraries

't have been there. I had pasted it in since I thought it is related and I'm going to refer to is, but it is not. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: Python applications that are also libraries

side-effect? If this is a "pure" application, I'd install it with*out* propagated inputs. This might not be easy to determine, though. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2018-02/msg00456.html -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com

Re: Provide python:debug with --with-pydebug switch

ackage, it does not harm. So go ahead! I suggest adding/extending the description like this: This python interpreter is build with '--with-pydebug' to help debugging. See https://pythonextensionpatterns.readthedocs.io/en/latest/debugging/debug.html for for information. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | H

Re: split up python-pyqt or python-matplotlib?

ut to the screen and/or to a file, so at least initially you will not need to use any of the methods given above. [1] [1] https://matplotlib.org/faq/usage_faq.html#what-is-a-backend [2] https://matplotlib.org/users/customizing.html#a-sample-matplotlibrc-file -- Regards Hartmut Goebel

Re: python-build-system: Delete .egg-info file created in phase check.

Hi Mark, > For now, I changed the 'eqv?' to 'string=?' in commit > 171a117c61224be10f2b97a6a880ad0f4c38ef6d on core-updates, but I'm Thanks for spotting and fixing this! -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compile

Re: PYTHONPATH issue explanation

a subset of their installed packages when we > generate a pyvenv.cfg by default. venvs never contain a "subset of installed packages". They either include all system site-packages or none of them. But as I've already written, generating a pyvenv.cfg for this case will not work as w

Re: PYTHONPATH issue explanation

/gnu/store/0d8vp2h…-profile/lib/python3.5/site-packages python3 -s -c 'import simplejson' # import error ('-s' avoids leaking packages from §HOME/.local/…) -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compiler

Re: PYTHONPATH issue explanation

quot; to use "GUIX_PYTHON_X_Y_SITE_PACKAGES". When implementing this in sitecustomize.py, you will end up re-implementing the complete venv mechanism. When going the GUIX_PYTHON_X_Y_SITE_PACKAGES route, we should look where the best place will be: Maybe site.PREFIXES, maybe site.getsitepackages(), maybe site.venv(). -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: [PATCH] gnu: python: Honor 'GUIX_PYTHON_X_Y_SITE_PACKAGES'.

AGES". Sorry, do say, but does not work in a virtual environment, since GUIX_PYTHON_X_Y_SITE_PACKAGES will be added unconditionally. Also I assume this will execute site.main() twice. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 3

Am 14.03.2018 um 08:49 schrieb Pjotr Prins: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 11:02:03PM +0100, Hartmut Goebel wrote: >> Am 13.03.2018 um 22:44 schrieb Pjotr Prins: >>> Another problem is that it does not cover special cases where, for >>> example you compile Python with SSL

Re: PYTHONPATH issue explanation

mlinks when searching for "sys.base_prefix". The idea is to stop "at the profile". The hard part of this is to determine "at the profile". Also this needs a larger patch. But if we manage to implement this, it would be perfect. I could contribute a draft for

Re: installing python 2 and python 3 in the same profile

good enough. I'd prefer this. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 3

on itself, like you suggested earlier. See option 3 of my analysis part 3. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 1

> This means the way we are using PYTHONPATH should be changed. The remaining text is correct. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 3

s in guix. If we find a way, this would be find. But prior to solving the optional we should solve the compulsory :-) -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 3

-3.5. > If you’re suggesting to have a ‘PYTHONPATH3-5’ environment variable > instead of ‘PYTHONPATH’, I agree it could be helpful if we are to This suggestion is related to Guix-specific variables only, like GUIX-PYTHONHOME-2.7. (I hae to admit that this is not clear enough). --

Re: PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 3

adding site-packages.  PYTHONPATH elements are added in front of essential packages, while site-packages are added behind. Dor details please see part 1 of my analysis. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compile

PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 3 (was: PYTHONPATH woes)

Hi, here is my third part of the analysis: Result == We can avoid all of the problems related to how Guix is using PYTHONPATH quite simple. This will work for virtual environments, too. Preliminary Proposal === To be able to install different minor versions of

Re: installing python 2 and python 3 in the same profile

ents are for the rescue and quite light-weight. Neverthelesse these are problems out of scope for guix :-) -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: installing python 2 and python 3 in the same profile

ATH in a way it is not meant to be used. See my analysis posted a few days ago - which I need to finish. We need to fix the way guix is installing Python! -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which

Re: how to get the path of the logfile after an unsuccesful build?

Am 09.03.2018 um 15:06 schrieb ng0: > The daemon doesn’t keep logs for failed builds. I asked this a few month ago and was told this is a bug. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which

Re: Where to queue patches for staging?

Am 07.03.2018 um 15:20 schrieb Marius Bakke: > Feel free to push a 'staging-next' branch or something along those lines > to Savannah. Then we can "promote" it once the current branch is merged. Done this. Thanks! -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel

FYI: Patch for adding Python 3.7 (beta 2) available

Hi, just for information to avoid duplicate work. I just posted a patch for adding Python 3.7 (beta 2) to guix-patches. For the case I'll miss the release, somebody else might pick up this patch. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com

Where to queue patches for staging? (was: Is staging open again?)

commit. For me this does not work out - and I assume for others if doesn't, too. Is there some queue-for-staging branch where I can commit this patch to? Or some other means, like setting some bug-status? -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com

Is staging open again?

Hi, I have a patch which should go to staging (600 packages need recompile). Is staging open for commit? -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: Simulating X-Server in tests

es, but if it's required, there are also examples in qt.scm and kde-frameworks.scm. HTH -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 2 (was: PYTHONPATH woes)

in 4a, this is *not* what what a Guix user would expect. The profile's site-packages should be in sys.path, not /gnu/store/…-python-3.6.3/lib/python3.6/site-packages. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

PYTHONPATH issue analysis - part 1 (was: PYTHONPATH woes)

-site [PEP370] https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0370/#implementation -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

Re: PYTHONPATH woes

Am 24.02.2018 um 11:44 schrieb Hartmut Goebel: >  you may read all of the mail as the techniques are a bit complex. No offense meant, please ignore the sentence. When I started writing the mail I though my explanation would be much more complex. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goe

Re: PYTHONPATH woes

file site-packages. We could of course implement search-paths GUIX-PYTHON-SITE-PACKAGE-2 and GUIX-PYTHON-SITE-PACKAGE-3 (instead of PYTHONPATH) and change "site.py" to honor them. I'll look into whether this or my venv-hack are a better solution, esp. regarding "stacked" virtual e

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