Re: Plan for 0.9.0

Alex Vong writes: > Talking about interactive CLIs, in general I am not a fan of it too, > especially after you get used to the program. That's why I am using > plain apt-get instead of aptitude which uses ncurses. However, I will > say it is sometimes useful. Isn't

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

On 16/10/2015, Mathieu Lirzin wrote: > Alex Vong writes: > >> Talking about interactive CLIs, in general I am not a fan of it too, >> especially after you get used to the program. That's why I am using >> plain apt-get instead of aptitude which uses

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Mathieu Lirzin wrote: > Eric Bavier writes: > >> On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 23:44:39 +0200 >> l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote: >> >>> Mathieu Lirzin skribis: >>> >>> > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Mathieu Lirzin wrote: > "Thompson, David" writes: > >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Mathieu Lirzin wrote: > [...] >>> I think the enthusiasm for changing ‘guix gc’ was induced by somekind

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

Eric Bavier writes: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 23:44:39 +0200 > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote: > >> Mathieu Lirzin skribis: >> >> > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: >> > >> >> Dunno, I admit I’m not as enthusiastic as the other people

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

"Thompson, David" writes: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Mathieu Lirzin wrote: [...] >> I think the enthusiasm for changing ‘guix gc’ was induced by somekind of >> shared experience of typing it loosely and ending up having to download >> a

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

"Thompson, David" writes: > [...] I'm fine with 'guix gc' working as-is. The re-downloading lots > of substitutes issue is not an issue about the CLI, but rather about > not making store items that you want to hang around GC roots. Hmm, good point. Rather than

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Mathieu Lirzin skribis: > >> I think the enthusiasm for changing ‘guix gc’ was induced by somekind of >> shared experience of typing it loosely and ending up having to download >> a lot of substitutes again. > > But, but… you could

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

The GC is not too greedy. It's doing exactly what it should. The issue is that we need more tools to let people protect things from the GC that they want protected. One example that is that 'guix environment' will eventually generate profiles that are registered as GC roots, which will protect

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

Christopher Allan Webber skribis: > There's no need to be sorry. This was a useful conversation. I think > it's worth recognizing the pain points users are hitting. Even though > Dave's solution keeps "guix gc" as needed, it's helping highlighting how > much we need

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

"Thompson, David" writes: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Mathieu Lirzin wrote: >> "Thompson, David" writes: >>> In general, I do not like interactive CLIs. I'm fine with 'guix gc' >>> working as-is. The

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

Daniel Pimentel writes: >> The GC is not too greedy. It's doing exactly what it should. The >> issue is that we need more tools to let people protect things from the >> GC that they want protected. One example that is that 'guix >> environment' will eventually generate profiles that are

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

On 15/10/2015, Thompson, David wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Mathieu Lirzin > wrote: >> Eric Bavier writes: >> >>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 23:44:39 +0200 >>> l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote: >>>

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

taylanbayi...@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich "Bayırlı/Kammer") skribis: > I seem to remember 'guix gc' even removing things that are actually > necessary for building a profile, which is a ubiquitous operation of > course. Does anyone know if that's been fixed on the meanwhile, I think it hasn’t.

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

Alex Vong skribis: > Regarding gc, I remember I accidentally ran "guix gc" and removed all > the build dependencies like bash, glibc... Then, I realized the proper > way to run gc is to run "guix gc -d ". I wouldn’t call it “the proper way.” Most of the time, I simply

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Dunno, I admit I’m not as enthusiastic as the other people here. :-) > > What would ‘guix gc’ (without any option) do? Show --help and exit(0)? ;) -- Mathieu Lirzin

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

Mathieu Lirzin skribis: > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > >> Dunno, I admit I’m not as enthusiastic as the other people here. :-) >> >> What would ‘guix gc’ (without any option) do? > > Show --help and exit(0)? ;) Sure we could do that, but I’m not convinced

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 23:44:39 +0200 l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote: > Mathieu Lirzin skribis: > > > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > > > >> Dunno, I admit I’m not as enthusiastic as the other people here. :-) > >> > >> What would ‘guix gc’ (without any

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

What do you think about add alias "clean" to "gc"? For example: "guix clean" as alias to "guix gc" -- Daniel Pimentel (d4n1 3:)

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

Daniel Pimentel skribis: > What do you think about add alias "clean" to "gc"? > > For example: > "guix clean" as alias to "guix gc" I’m not very enthusiastic. ;-) Ideally, we’d provide a generic alias mechanism so that everyone can add their favorite names. Ludo’.

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

Alex Vong writes: > Regarding gc, I remember I accidentally ran "guix gc" and removed all > the build dependencies like bash, glibc... Then, I realized the proper > way to run gc is to run "guix gc -d ". Perhaps we should > change the command for garbage collecting

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

Regarding gc, I remember I accidentally ran "guix gc" and removed all the build dependencies like bash, glibc... Then, I realized the proper way to run gc is to run "guix gc -d ". Perhaps we should change the command for garbage collecting everything from "guix gc" to "guix gc -a" and "guix gc

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

Ricardo Wurmus writes: > Alex Vong writes: > >> Regarding gc, I remember I accidentally ran "guix gc" and removed all >> the build dependencies like bash, glibc... Then, I realized the proper >> way to run gc is to run "guix gc -d ". Perhaps

Re: Plan for 0.9.0

Mathieu Lirzin writes: > Ricardo Wurmus writes: > >> Alex Vong writes: >> >>> Regarding gc, I remember I accidentally ran "guix gc" and removed all >>> the build dependencies like bash, glibc... Then, I realized the

Plan for 0.9.0

Hello! It’s time to talk about the next release, 0.9.0 (I think the service rewrite is one good reason to bump the middle number.) In addition to the nice stuff we already have, it’d be nice to add: • wip-container, I think we’re almst there; • finalize multiple-server support in ‘guix