Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-04-10 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Jonathan Brielmaier writes: > On 4/10/19 6:56 PM, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: >> >> Hi Jonathan, >> >> thank you for testing this! >> >>> - at somepoint Gnome crashes, a screenshot of the error message is >>> attached (gnome_freeze.png) >> >> I see OOM killer is mentioned. How much RAM did you

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-04-10 Thread Jonathan Brielmaier
On 4/10/19 6:56 PM, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > > thank you for testing this! > >> - at somepoint Gnome crashes, a screenshot of the error message is >> attached (gnome_freeze.png) > > I see OOM killer is mentioned. How much RAM did you allocate to the VM? 4GiB

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-04-10 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Hi Jonathan, thank you for testing this! > - at somepoint Gnome crashes, a screenshot of the error message is > attached (gnome_freeze.png) I see OOM killer is mentioned. How much RAM did you allocate to the VM? -- Ricardo

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-04-10 Thread Jonathan Brielmaier
Am 29.03.19 um 19:56 schrieb Ricardo Wurmus:> One of the GNOME update branches (for 2.28?) has already been merged > into staging. There are rumours of crashes, though, so this will > require testing by more people. I checked out staging and built a slightly adjusted desktop.tmpl image with

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-29 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Ludovic Courtès writes: >> I don't think we should release 1.0 until at least >> and are >> fixed. Trying a new distribution only to find your favourite programs >> are crashing would be a _terrible_ first impression. > > Do we have

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-28 Thread Marius Bakke
Ludovic Courtès writes: > Hello Guix! > > When we said we’d try to release 1.0 for FOSDEM, we were talking about > FOSDEM *2019*, which is well over now, so I think we need to get our act > together and complete the remaining tasks for 1.0. :-) On the plus side, we still have a lot of time

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-27 Thread pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 04:26:55PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Anyway, you’re still very much welcome to test the installer! See the > manual on how to build the installation image: > I tested an old install image a few weeks old and the locales/languages in the language selection at the

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-27 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
Hi Ludo, On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 16:26:55 +0100 Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Anyway, you’re still very much welcome to test the installer! See the > manual on how to build the installation image: > > > https://gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Building-the-Installation-Image.html I've

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-27 Thread znavko
Thank you! Nice work! Guile handbook wanted! Mar 27, 2019, 3:26 PM by l...@gnu.org: > Hello! > > Ludovic Courtès <> l...@gnu.org > > skribis: > >> • The installer should be changed to produce the right >> ‘initrd-modules’ field, using the same mechanism used by >>

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-27 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello! Ludovic Courtès skribis: > • The installer should be changed to produce the right > ‘initrd-modules’ field, using the same mechanism used by > ‘check-device-initrd-modules’. I’ve done this in commit 50247be5f4633a4c3446cddbd3515d027853ec0d, and also added a confirmation dialog

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-23 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello! Timothy Sample skribis: > This didn’t work as well as I had hoped. I was able to make a “lib” > output for “colord”, which gets rid of “hplip-minimal” and, in turn, > “gcc”. However, it was supposed to also remove “llvm” and “python@3”, > but those are still in the closure because of

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-21 Thread Timothy Sample
Hi Ludo, Ludovic Courtès writes: >> Yes. We should be working on “guix size gnome-shell”. It more >> accurately reflects the size of GDM, and (I hope you’re sitting down) it >> weighs in at 2GiB! >> >> Fortunately, it looks like we could claw back ~400MiB by (somehow) >> dropping

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-21 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Hello, Kristofer Buffington ezt írta (időpont: 2019. márc. 21., Cs, 1:54): > > Woops, I meant to send this message to the list > > -- Forwarded message - > From: Kristofer Buffington > Date: Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: Status update on 1.0

Fwd: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-20 Thread Kristofer Buffington
Woops, I meant to send this message to the list -- Forwarded message - From: Kristofer Buffington Date: Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Status update on 1.0 To: Gábor Boskovits I'm deep into this netlink/rtnetlink business currently. I'm trying to decide if it's

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-15 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Hello, Thompson, David ezt írta (időpont: 2019. márc. 15., P, 19:32): > > Quick tangent: My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think that netlink API > wrappers would put us one step closer to being able to implement > useful network isolation in our container implementation (right now > you only

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-15 Thread Thompson, David
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 10:33 AM Ludovic Courtès wrote: > > Hi, > > Gábor Boskovits skribis: > > > Ludovic Courtès ezt írta (időpont: 2019. márc. 13., Sze, > > 16:21): > >> > >> Hello Guix! > > > >> • IPv6 support in ‘static-networking-service’: as discussed at the > >> Guix Days, we’ll

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-15 Thread Timothy Sample
Hi, Ludovic Courtès writes: >> GNOME Shell has a handful of silly references like “inkscape” and >> “webkitgtk” that are huge and (I assume) unnecessary. > > Oh indeed. Inkscape comes from > 45fef894eb5b39029633cd0cd907e8ce8c5ab379, I’ll look into it. I’m sure you’ll spot this quickly, but

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-15 Thread Mathieu Othacehe
Hello, > Mathieu, any idea? Do you think we could detect it when kmscon fails? > Or simply avoid it? For the record, I choose kmscon because it has a good unicode support contrary to linux VT. kmscon supports three renderers (on paper): * fbdev * drm2d * drm3d So I guess the AMD gpu does

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-15 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi, Gábor Boskovits skribis: > Ludovic Courtès ezt írta (időpont: 2019. márc. 13., Sze, > 16:21): >> >> Hello Guix! > >> • IPv6 support in ‘static-networking-service’: as discussed at the >> Guix Days, we’ll probably need to Linux Netlink sockets to do that >> rather than the old

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-15 Thread pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 01:57:42PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hello, > > "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" skribis: > > > When doing translations, should the English name be kept as a proper > > name as with GuixSD? I would prefer to translate it to a German > > “Guix-System” (with hyphen) to

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-15 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi Timothy, Timothy Sample skribis: > Ludovic Courtès writes: [...] >> • GDM works well for GNOME and WMs that provide a .session file. >> However it still doesn’t honor ~/.xsession. We discussed it before >> and dropped the ball. Timothy, what’s missing? I’d really like to >>

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-15 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
> They should still support VESA, no? Yes they do. -- Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-15 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello! Tobias Geerinckx-Rice skribis: > Ludovic Courtès wrote: >> • The graphical installer has been merged (yay!) but we still >> need to >> discuss it in the manual and to test it some more. > > The last time I tried the installer it didn't work on AMD(GPU) cards. > I'll give it another

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-15 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Pierre Neidhardt skribis: > Danny Milosavljevic writes: > >> Or find out why on earth KMSCON needs the prorietary amdgpu kernel module. >> >> It's not exactly 3D graphics, so what is going on? Furthermore, vesafb >> should >> always work regardless (if slowly, but who cares). > > Simply

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-15 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello, "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" skribis: > When doing translations, should the English name be kept as a proper > name as with GuixSD? I would prefer to translate it to a German > “Guix-System” (with hyphen) to avoid misunderstandings (many Germans > would read an English “Guix System”

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-14 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Hello Ludo, Ludovic Courtès ezt írta (időpont: 2019. márc. 13., Sze, 16:21): > > Hello Guix! > • IPv6 support in ‘static-networking-service’: as discussed at the > Guix Days, we’ll probably need to Linux Netlink sockets to do that > rather than the old ioctls currently used in (guix

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-14 Thread L p R n d n
Hello, "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" writes: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 06:08:38PM +0100, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: >> mikadoZero writes: >> >> >> • “GuixSD” has been removed from the web site and from almost all of >> >> the source code. Still need to fix the file names that appear in >> >>

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-13 Thread Timothy Sample
Hi Ludo, Ludovic Courtès writes: > Hello Guix! > > When we said we’d try to release 1.0 for FOSDEM, we were talking about > FOSDEM *2019*, which is well over now, so I think we need to get our act > together and complete the remaining tasks for 1.0. :-) > > Looking at the >

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-13 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Danny Milosavljevic writes: > On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 17:00:55 +0100 > Pierre Neidhardt wrote: > >> > The last time I tried the installer it didn't work on AMD(GPU) cards. >> > I'll give >> > it another go. >> >> I've experienced the same issue and I'm quite sure this is because the >>

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-13 Thread mikadoZero
Ricardo Wurmus writes: > mikadoZero writes: > >>> • “GuixSD” has been removed from the web site and from almost all of >>> the source code. Still need to fix the file names that appear in >>> Makefile.am. >> >> Is it to be changed to "Guix SD"? > > Just “Guix system”. I will wait

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-13 Thread L p R n d n
"pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" writes: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 06:08:38PM +0100, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: >> mikadoZero writes: >> >> >> • “GuixSD” has been removed from the web site and from almost all of >> >> the source code. Still need to fix the file names that appear in >> >>

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-13 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 17:00:55 +0100 Pierre Neidhardt wrote: > > The last time I tried the installer it didn't work on AMD(GPU) cards. I'll > > give > > it another go. > > I've experienced the same issue and I'm quite sure this is because the > installer > uses KMSCON which only works with

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-13 Thread pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 06:08:38PM +0100, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > mikadoZero writes: > > >> • “GuixSD” has been removed from the web site and from almost all of > >> the source code. Still need to fix the file names that appear in > >> Makefile.am. > > > > Is it to be changed to "Guix

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-13 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
mikadoZero writes: >> • “GuixSD” has been removed from the web site and from almost all of >> the source code. Still need to fix the file names that appear in >> Makefile.am. > > Is it to be changed to "Guix SD"? Just “Guix system”. -- Ricardo

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-13 Thread mikadoZero
Ludovic Courtès writes: > • The graphical installer has been merged (yay!) but we still need to > discuss it in the manual and to test it some more. I was just going to install Guix SD on another system. So I could try the installer. I could also try my hand at texinfo and do some

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-13 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
> The last time I tried the installer it didn't work on AMD(GPU) cards. I'll > give > it another go. I've experienced the same issue and I'm quite sure this is because the installer uses KMSCON which only works with the proprietary amdgpu kernel module. During FOSDEM, Mathieu mentioned that

Re: Status update on 1.0

2019-03-13 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Ludo', Ludovic Courtès wrote: • The graphical installer has been merged (yay!) but we still need to discuss it in the manual and to test it some more. The last time I tried the installer it didn't work on AMD(GPU) cards. I'll give it another go. • “GuixSD” has been removed from

Status update on 1.0

2019-03-13 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello Guix! When we said we’d try to release 1.0 for FOSDEM, we were talking about FOSDEM *2019*, which is well over now, so I think we need to get our act together and complete the remaining tasks for 1.0. :-) Looking at the