american victorian houses Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-29 Thread Kate M Bunting
The red-brick house with ornamental bargeboards on the gables site is similar in style to many houses (and smaller railway stations) in the UK. A few miles north of here they start to be built of stone rather than brick. Apart from the fact that wooden houses are uncommon, the design details are

american victorian houses Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-28 Thread Elizabeth Young
Here's what I think of for American Victorian houses, especially the painted ones. http://www.butteamerica.com/pladies.htm or the pineapple house on this page http://www.noehill.com/sf/alta/default.asp gables http://community.webshots.com/album/441222666CUBxOm liz young Kate M Bunting

Re: american victorian houses Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-28 Thread AlbertCat
Victorian is a generalized term, usually used for all things late 19th century. But Vicki was queen of England...albeit a rather expansive England. But still English. The houses most Americans think of as Victorian are also known as Gothic Revival or Gingerbread Gothic. But there's also

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-27 Thread Ed Walton
On Sep 25, 2006, at 12:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's nuts! I don't understand being offended by language...in a whore house. ___ You're obviously not a Victorian. Whorehouses often had signs banning the use of profanity on the premises,

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-27 Thread Sharon L. Krossa
At 12:42 PM -0400 9/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/27/2006 11:55:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're obviously not a Victorian. Neither are the *Americans* in Deadwood. :-P Victorian values and culture were not limited to the UK or even

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-27 Thread Ed Walton
On Sep 27, 2006, at 11:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're obviously not a Victorian. Neither are the *Americans* in Deadwood. :-P What's funny is that the rancher I quoted, Teddy Blue Abbot, was English. Real name: Edward Charles Abbott. The nickname has something

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-25 Thread AlbertCat
I find Deadwood...though beautiful...a bit over designed. Good show, however. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 9/24/2006 6:24:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it's not really worth arguing over...producers of TV and movies are going to do what they like with costume and language...bummer, but true. As they should, since it's

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 9/24/2006 6:40:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have friends who love Deadwood's costumes but watch it with the sound OFF. They don't appreciate the language, either. * That's nuts! I don't understand being offended

[h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread kelly grant
I think that if they were so willing to get the costumes right, they would have gotten the language right too...sorry, didn't get to see much of this series, was too put off by the extreme use of VERY modern foul language! Kelly I can think of one program, or a series of programs, that may

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread Chris
I have to admit that I was pretty surprised with the first/second shows and the language, but fortunately it has toned down a bit. I've seen the first seven now and actually, for the time and neighborhood, the language is pretty acurate. Tough to get around sometimes, but I, for one, have

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
I have wondered about the language. I don't know that foul words are modern at all. Anyone else know? Sylrog On Sep 24, 2006, at 11:41 AM, kelly grant wrote: I think that if they were so willing to get the costumes right, they would have gotten the language right too...sorry, didn't get

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread kelly grant
. Kelly - Original Message - From: Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Deadwood I have wondered about the language. I don't know that foul words are modern at all. Anyone else know

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
at that time! I could be wrong, but I doubt my grandfather would have used some of those words at any point in his life. Kelly - Original Message - From: Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread Chris
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Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread Sue Clemenger
- From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Deadwood Nor my grandfather :) (I NEVER heard either of them ever say a single swear word, let alone the two 'popular' ones in this show), but you've got

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread Kelly Grant
what they like with costume and language...bummer, but true. Kelly - Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Deadwood Nor my grandfather :) (I NEVER heard either of them

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread Suzi Clarke
back then actually would have been? Almost like a translation? --Sue, taking a break from garden-digging and bulb planting... - Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
... - Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Deadwood Nor my grandfather :) (I NEVER heard either of them ever say a single swear word, let alone the two 'popular' ones in this show

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread Chris
Sooo true. Nice to be able to use that 'creative license' clause isn't it :-) Kelly Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The website that was posted gave us many answers... Cunt - Use of cunt as term of abuse for a woman is a 20th century sense. From Frederic Manning's 1929 The Middle Parts

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread Kelly Grant
Gack! Yes... Kelly From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Deadwood Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 15:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Sooo true. Nice to be able to use that 'creative license' clause isn't

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread Susan Data-Samtak
I have friends who love Deadwood's costumes but watch it with the sound OFF. They don't appreciate the language, either. Susan Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for.  - Ride the Dark Trail by Louis L'Amour On Sep

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread Sharon L. Krossa
Note that I haven't actually seen Deadwood, so I don't know specifically how they are actually using language, so my comments below about Deadwood really do mean those ifs... At 1:35 PM -0600 9/24/06, Sylvia Rognstad wrote: Well, as I said, I wondered about the frequency of it too. I doubt

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread Sharon L. Krossa
At 7:05 PM -0300 9/24/06, Kelly Grant wrote: But it's not really worth arguing over...producers of TV and movies are going to do what they like with costume and language...bummer, but true. Who has been arguing over it? We can discuss what we want, regardless of what tv and movie producers

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread Sharon L. Krossa
At 4:20 PM -0600 9/24/06, Sylvia Rognstad wrote: If you grandfather hated swearing, then he must have heard it from others who did use it at that time. Not necessarily -- he could have hated what he heard much more modernly. Also, even if he did hear swearing when he was younger, what he

Re: [h-cost] Deadwood

2006-09-24 Thread Sue Clemenger
: Sunday, September 24, 2006 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Deadwood Except that the rest of the language is quite old fashioned. I like that they went for that kind of realistic speech, and it seems a bit anachronistic that they combine that with all the profanity, unless people of that ilk really