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Never was a goth myself, but had lots of goth friends (and still have a few!).
Most of them wouldn't be caught dead making their own clothes - adapting
maybe, but not actually making.
Here in Northern California there were and are groups and mailing
lists for Goths
Thanks Debs. I was about to say, maybe it's a difference between US and
UK - there is so much less sewing done here overall. I still boggle at
the memory of finding fabric by the yard in WalMart in Connecticut!
Adapting and decorating I can believe, making accessories from scratch,
but for
life in general is probably the starting point.
Kathleen
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From: Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] fiber arts and making vs buying clothes
Carolyn Kayta Barrows wrote
Somehow I can't imagine most Goths, as I know them, sitting down doing
anything as domesticated and constructive as making clothes. Making
jewellery, possibly embellishing clothes, yes, but actual dressmaking?
You can build up a pretty wide wardrobe by just buying things that are
available in
Never was a goth myself, but had lots of goth friends (and still have a
few!). Most of them wouldn't be caught dead making their own clothes -
adapting
maybe, but not actually making.
There was a healthy band of good cheap 'alternative' clothing shops in
Newcastle and the surrounding area,
Fran wrote:
The whole modern wearable art movement is an
outgrowth of DIY hippie crafts. I'm hoping to see the
DIY aspects, the loving-hands-at-home experiments,
revived as a foundation for a new generation of fiber
artists.
I reply:
Huh. My first encounters with fiber-arts came with my
Carolyn Kayta Barrows wrote:
When did off the rack clothes
become THE WAY to go, as opposed to just being what
people who couldn't afford to have clothes made for
them wore?
Probably as soon as they became plentiful and cheap.
Store bought clothing and household goods became a sign of
Off-the-rack clothes became THE WAY to go in the 1920s. Problem was,
during the depression of the 1930s and the war rationing and shortages
of the 1940s, a great many people had to home sew, restyle clothing, and
think up ways to use things like flour sacks just to get something to
wear.
1950s dressmaking manuals told women they could make clothes that would
look just like RTW, so they didn't have to admit they home sewed.
It was a big day in my brother's life when he stopped letting my mother sew
his shirts for him. That was about 1964.
Then, in the late 1960s and early
Ren. Faires started in the early 1960s, and their founder coined the
term living history.
Wasn't there some early connection with the SCA?
Still, there was a lot of DIY, which I don't think I'm seeing
currently as a mainstream movement.
Wearable art, while not being exactly
I would agree. Define wearable art. The DIY movement is VERY strong and VERY
mainstream. In particular among teenage girls. Just take a look at Etsy and
you'll see the demographics.
http://www.etsy.com/
The most popular thing to make right now in the reconstruct part of DIY is
t-shirts
It's pretty easy to put lace-up trimming down the front of a tank top.
BTW, that was a hippie style too. It's certainly heavily done in
ready-to-wear for the American junior market. In shopping malls and
online catalogs, I've seen a lot of ready-to-wear decorated T shirts
and tank tops.
I'm unsure if you've seen the corset t-shirts but what they are is
essentially the body of the t-shirt intact with pieces of fabric added
either on the front or back with grommets in. Then you lace just like a
corset. Some are really wild others are the basic style. Also the old add a
skirt to
I'd agree with your definition, except that I associate the term fiber
art with textile arts other than sewing. Whereas, to me wearable art
covers sewing, weaving, spinning, knitting, crochet, embroidery, the
whole spectrum. Oh, except a hanging or sculpture is fiber art, but not
wearable.
I'm guessing you've never encountered the perky goth subset of goth then.
A google search should give you more than a few areas to look. As for the
Lolita's looking innocent and sweet that's the whole idea. Sweet evil and
innocent *looking*. Then you have the harajuku girls of Gwen Stefani
BTW, some jewelry is like wearable sculpture, and is made of metal,
stone, etc.
True, and there is also fiber jewelry.
I would call that wearable art too. Then there are cross-over folks
like Arlene Fisch who, in the 1970s, was making knitted silver wire
jewelry. And the
Good question. This brings to mind the question of whether or not a
recreation of, say, a Worth gown is art. Certainly it was art the
first time, but is what we're doing also art?
I'm not sure it was even art the first time. Worth actually had a
fairly large concern and churned out
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