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That's pretty close, except they don't
Silvara wrote:
Oh come on now it was done by the Rami brothers who did the Evil Dead
movies its
supposed to be campy.Calling that historical id like calling Army of
Darkness historical.
Some stuff is so awful these days I don't know how we're supposed to
tell if it's silly on purpose or if
, I think, was called Viking vixens. I'll grant you, that show
was in the scifi/fantasy category, but they could at least have made an
effort!
Tea Rose
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:09:31 EDT
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God! Xena is OK
I remember once seeing part of a 1950s film (an Edgar Allan Poe, I
think) which featured a woman in Elizabethan costume but with projecting
bosoms in the middle of her stomacher.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
Melanie Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23/09/2006 16:53
Scaramouche
Melanie Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23/09/2006 16:53
Scaramouche (the one made in 1952) has always been one of my favorites.
It's set in the 18th century, but the women all have the 50s
lift-and-separate bullet bras underneath their gowns. I'm sure there
are many other costume gaffes
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Kate
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Melanie Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23/09
Is this what you're interested in?
http://www.orchardcorset.com/Merchant2/p_G204.html
I also recommend a look around the rest of the site as there are many other
similar styles to choose from.
Karen
Seamstrix
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Speaking of lift and separate bras,
That's pretty close, except they don't seem to make them small enough
for some of my actresses. Thanks.
Sylrog
On Sep 26, 2006, at 11:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is this what you're interested in?
http://www.orchardcorset.com/Merchant2/p_G204.html
I also recommend a look around the
In a message dated 9/24/2006 9:51:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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One of the major points made in Hollywood and History is
that women's costumes (particularly the female lead) tend to be heavily
influenced (if not totally based on) current fashion trends of the
In a message dated 9/24/2006 11:42:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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'Better round up the yurts 'cause the Tatars are startin' to circle'
LOL!
Ann Wass
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In a message dated 9/24/2006 8:56:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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The Conqueror, with John
On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:42 AM, Catherine Kinsey wrote:
That is what really bugs me, when a production claims to be
historically accurate but so glaringly misses the mark. Also I have
mellowed a bit with age and at times can grudgingly forgive a
production
that does not claim to be
I have thought about this business of costumes reflecting fashion at the time
they were made before. If you look at a period film from the 40's the
costumes look 40's and so on. But now that I think about it more seriously, I
suspect is they are done that way to appeal to the majority of the
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In a message dated 9/24/2006 5:32:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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most modern historicals owe more to Xena Warrior
Princess and the like than any historical research for their
costuming...
God! Xena is OK because she's a complete fantasy [for some in more ways
In a message dated 9/24/2006 8:28:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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until being shown how even
more rediculous some real crinolines of the period were,
***
For balls, but not everyday wear. Of course she IS at court.
In a message dated 9/25/2006 1:11:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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HERCULES!
Yikes! It looks like Xena! Where the hell are the Greeks??
Yeah, but gotta love them leather pants!
Ann Wass
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In a message dated 9/24/2006 9:57:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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But if you are thinking of films like Troy (which I'm convinced was
costumed
primarily from the local Indian bazaar) and Alexander (Angelina Jolie in a
one-shouldered spandex chiton--really!), I'm
Troy was not great [one of my fave designers though, Bob Ringwood. He
designed Dune. But maybe he was having a bad day on Troy] Still
there's a
consistency to the look.
The movie I love to hate the costumes in is
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Dreadful...doubly dreadful! Some lov-er-ly bustles
In a message dated 9/25/2006 10:49:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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But now that I think about it more seriously, I suspect is they are done
that way to appeal to the majority of the audience who are NOT well informed
about the clothing of other eras.
In a message dated 9/25/2006 1:56:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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I thought Dangerous Liasons was one of the better costume movies -
It is yummy and delicious with chocolate sauce and a cherry!
James Acheson, the designer, always demanded to
On Monday 25 September 2006 6:22 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 9/24/2006 9:51:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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One of the major points made in Hollywood and History is
that women's costumes (particularly the female lead) tend to be heavily
vixens. I'll grant you, that show was in the
scifi/fantasy category, but they could at least have made an effort!
Tea Rose
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:09:31 EDT
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God! Xena is OK because she's a complete fantasy [for some
In a message dated 9/25/2006 5:05:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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And exactly when did the historical Hercules live? Come on -- mythology is
the original sci-fi/fantasy!
*
C'moncan't they at least make him look a LITTLE Greek? I mean, he
IMNSHO, the entire movie was having a bad day. Llamas, for cris' sake...the
animals are native to South America, not the Mediterranean!
--sue
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IMNSHO, the entire movie [Troy] was having a bad day.
*
Llamas are the least of our worries. They stab Agamemnon to death on the
battle field.
Boy, Electra's gonna have a dull
No movie with Yul Brenner could be really awful. :o)
Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender
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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:39:14
On Saturday 23 September 2006 11:46 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Somehow they managed to make everything look as though it was made from
polyester even though the movie was made before the polyester
On Sunday 24 September 2006 1:35 am, Melody Watts wrote:
hmmm. what about The Vikings with Kirk Douglas,Tony (yonda lies da
castle of my Fadda) Curtis and Janet Leigh, all leather and fur and quasi
med-evil looking dresses,made of some gawd awful shiny fabric,and chiffon
headgear on Janet
Somehow they managed to make everything look as though it was
Such an off-centre look may be thier way of indicating past times or another
era?
For instnace, I am presently preparing a very bright, vivid movie with some
1970s flashbacks. Clear instructions for the cinematographer for the
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On Sunday 24 September 2006 1:35 am, Melody Watts wrote:
hmmm. what about
At 8:30 AM -0600 9/23/06, Sylvia Rognstad wrote:
...
costumes from movies, and not just good examples but some really bad
ones. For instance, I happened to see on tv a bit of an old movie
from the 1950s a couple weeks ago called Princess of the Nile
which took place in the Middle East and the
In a message dated 9/24/2006 8:56:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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The Conqueror, with John Wayne? (
Said conqueror is Genghis Khan, right?
Ann Wass
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It isn't just summer popcorn historical movies that get a great
deal of their historical costuming ideas from sf/fantasy
films/programs.
Someone just mentioned Hollywood and History. It
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The Conqueror, with John Wayne? (
Said conqueror is Genghis Khan, right?
Wasn't there one about The Vikings and Genghis Kahn?
susan
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oh yeah, they did some weird make-up on John Waynes eyes (It looks like they
stuck a rubberband across his eyelids) to make him look Mongolianwhat a
film! too funny now--very serious then...
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In a message dated 9/24/2006 8:56:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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The Conqueror, with John Wayne? (
Said
Scaramouche (the one made in 1952) has always been one of my favorites.
It's set in the 18th century, but the women all have the 50s
lift-and-separate bullet bras underneath their gowns. I'm sure there
are many other costume gaffes as well, but that's the most noticeable
one. It's a
How about the Black Shield of Falworth (1954)? Pure medieval mystery meat.
Somehow they managed to make everything look as though it was made from
polyester even though the movie was made before the polyester era.
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At 16:53 23/09/2006, you wrote:
Scaramouche (the one made in 1952) has always been one of my
favorites. It's set in the 18th century, but the women all have the
50s lift-and-separate bullet bras underneath their gowns. I'm sure
there are many other costume gaffes as well, but that's the most
In a message dated 9/23/2006 10:31:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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but some really bad ones.
The 1940 Pride and Prejudice, with costumes in highly fantasized 1830s-era.
Ann Wass
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Oh! Oh! The Court Jester with Danny Kaye and Angela Landsbury. :D
Some of the best twisty-silly dialogue EVER, but oh my the clothes!
Althea
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On Saturday 23 September 2006 12:40 pm, Althea Turner wrote:
Oh! Oh! The Court Jester with Danny Kaye and Angela Landsbury. :D
Some of the best twisty-silly dialogue EVER, but oh my the clothes!
Yes! You are quite right.
My husband loves that movie--but not for the costumes. :-)
--
The Pirate with Gene Kelly and Judy Garland.
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Since we always rant so much
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Since we always rant so much about how bad Hollywood does historical
costumes in movies,
Oh, history shmystory...I kind'a like the Corman science firction movie (think
it was Battle Beyond the Stars) where we are chased by frayed peasant mutants
in brown (yes, brown) smocks -- every time they rounded a corner running at
high speed, the smocks would flap up and reveal Levis,
-C.
In a message dated 9/23/2006 11:43:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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Somehow they managed to make everything look as though it was made from
polyester even though the movie was made before the polyester era.
Maybe it was nylon, the miracle fiber of the early
In a message dated 9/23/2006 11:35:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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From what I remember, Desiree with Marlon Brando as Napoleon and
Jean Simmons as Desiree. Men's uniforms seem to be O.K. but I'm sure
I saw the ladies in high heels under their Regency dresses - and
Sylrog,
I tried to watch an old British BW movie of David Copperfield the other
day. The costumes were so bad that I turned it off. My husband and I
couldn't figure out what decade the costumes were supposed to represent.
The men were one decade and the women were a mixture of everything
hmmm. what about The Vikings with Kirk Douglas,Tony (yonda lies da castle
of my Fadda) Curtis and Janet Leigh, all leather and fur and quasi med-evil
looking dresses,made of some gawd awful shiny fabric,and chiffon headgear on
Janet Leigh.
Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since
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