RE: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-24 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One of them was already brought forth and shot down which was the Donor in the birth of Mary fresco. the red and white outfit Though I still think the gold thingies are more of a tassel then a dag. The other one I think I did not save the url because I think

RE: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-24 Thread otsisto
I have seen in paintings where on one side of the gown the seam is not sewn together to expose the underskirt, sometime it appears that a purse is worn under the top skirt and the opening allows access. Mostly on German 1400s styles I have seen the side opening. I think that the gores of a

RE: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-23 Thread otsisto
One of them was already brought forth and shot down which was the Donor in the birth of Mary fresco. the red and white outfit Though I still think the gold thingies are more of a tassel then a dag. The other one I think I did not save the url because I think it was a Salome character and I was not

RE: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-22 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Catching up on old email From: otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] *snip* I have seen at least two Italian dresses that look as if they have different colored gores from the rest of the dress but not in the style that is on the Chimera site. Can you point me in the direction of those Italian

Re: Sewing speeds was Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-14 Thread Voncile W. Dudley
Glad to hear someone else that suffers with RA and sews understands the flare ups and recovery periods. Lady Von michaela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have RA too and this weekend overdid the sewing a bit too much to help out a dance school. I took about 8 200mg Ibuprofen a day as well as up

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-14 Thread Voncile W. Dudley
: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? I sew for a living (among other things) and I don't like to rush myself too much. I certainly don't sew fast by commercial industrial standards. That would be too stressful and not at all enjoyable

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 03:13 13/11/2006, you wrote: I should go into business. Wonder how many this company sells at those prices. On Nov 12, 2006, at 7:28 PM, Susan B. Farmer wrote: Quoting Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How much is 350 pounds? $700 USD -- approximately This is not an unusual price

RE: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread otsisto
I found the dress in thier periods gallery under The Medieval Age of Chivalry 1100 -1485. I have not found the wording Medieval inspired anywhere with this dress. Perhaps they have documentation for the coloured gores. I have seen at least two Italian dresses that look as if they have different

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Voncile W. Dudley
Thanks. I wondered why I didn't know the meaning of godet because it looked like a gore to me. It was in one of my patterns and confusing. Voncile Adele de Maisieres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Voncile W. Dudley wrote: Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Melanie Schuessler
Voncile W. Dudley wrote: Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start somewhere around the thigh? Anyone know the difference, if any? Lady Von In my years in the professional costume industry, I have generally heard godet used to refer to a triangular insert

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Voncile W. Dudley
away ;o) - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Walpole To: Historical Costume Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? Well, except that in reality what costs $1 in the USA costs £1 in the UK. So from the UK seller's point

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Voncile W. Dudley
, and get to do my sewing for fun. --Sue in Montana, not Susan in TN ;o) - Original Message - From: Sylvia Rognstad To: Historical Costume Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? Really? How long do you estimate it would take

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
my sewing for fun. --Sue in Montana, not Susan in TN ;o) - Original Message - From: Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? Really? How long do you

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Alexandria Doyle
] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? Really? How long do you estimate it would take you to make such a gown? On Nov 12, 2006, at 8:27 PM, Susan B. Farmer wrote: Quoting Sylvia Rognstad

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 11/12/2006 7:14:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start somewhere around the thigh? ** I would say a gore is a trapezoidal piece sewn to other gores to

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread 00217146
I would say a gore is a trapezoidal piece sewn to other gores to make up a complete skirt. Whereas a godat is a piece set into a slit made in a larger piece. In theory, you can slit your gores and insert a godet into them if you want. This all irritates me very much. You're the third

RE: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Linda Rice
Ok, then, what is a gusset? From what I've learned over the years and confirmed by looking a the following definitions, Gore and Godet are pretty much the same, with the godet being specifically that triangular piece which extends upward from the hem to add fullness to a skirt, and a gore being

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Voncile W. Dudley
Now that sounds interesting to try! Thanks. Lady Von [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/12/2006 7:14:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start somewhere around the thigh?

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Sue Clemenger
- Original Message - From: Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? You must sew awfully fast. I've been sewing most all my life and I can see

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
- Original Message - From: Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? You must sew awfully fast. I've been sewing most all my life and I can see that taking me

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Sue Clemenger
Answered privately. --Sue (from Montana) - Original Message - From: Voncile W. Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? WOW ! !! I use a regular machine

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-13 Thread Sue Clemenger
PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? I sew for a living (among other things) and I don't like to rush myself too much. I certainly don't sew fast by commercial industrial standards

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Adele de Maisieres
Branwyn Maura wrote: Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early middle ages on (it's an early step in the evolution of tailoring), but the use of a contrast gore for stylish effect is not really documentable for this period (I think there is some use of this

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Branwyn Maura [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early middle ages on (it's an early step in the evolution of tailoring), but the use of a contrast gore for stylish effect is not really documentable for this period (I think

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova
Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early middle ages on (it's an early step in the evolution of tailoring), but the use of a contrast gore for stylish effect is not really documentable for this period (I think there is some use of this technique in the 19th

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Voncile W. Dudley
Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start somewhere around the thigh? Anyone know the difference, if any? Lady Von Adele de Maisieres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Branwyn Maura wrote: Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Adele de Maisieres
Voncile W. Dudley wrote: Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start somewhere around the thigh? Anyone know the difference, if any? Well, SCA-types tend to call them gores and modern dressmakers tend to call them godets and use gore to refer to a

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Sue Clemenger
- Original Message - From: Branwyn Maura [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:46 AM Subject: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early middle ages on (it's an early step

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
respective mileages are varying greatly on this one, huh? ;oD --sue in montana - Original Message - From: Branwyn Maura [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:46 AM Subject: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? Gores in various

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How much is 350 pounds? $700 USD -- approximately susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Adele de Maisieres
Sylvia Rognstad wrote: How much is 350 pounds? 1000 New Zealand dollars. -- Adele de Maisieres - Habeo metrum - musicamque, hominem meam. Expectat alium quid? -Georgeus Gershwinus - ___

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Theresa Eacker
Using my handy-dandy converter: http://www.xe.net/ucc/ Roughly 669 buckolas!!! (Too bad it can't be phantasy-bucks for phantasy-garb!!) Theresa Eacker How much is 350 pounds? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Adele de Maisieres wrote: Voncile W. Dudley wrote: Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start somewhere around the thigh? Anyone know the difference, if any? Well, SCA-types tend to call them gores and modern dressmakers tend to call them

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
I should go into business. Wonder how many this company sells at those prices. On Nov 12, 2006, at 7:28 PM, Susan B. Farmer wrote: Quoting Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How much is 350 pounds? $700 USD -- approximately susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I should go into business. Wonder how many this company sells at those prices. Who Knows! But I could sure sell them a lot cheaper than that! susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Elizabeth Walpole
Message - From: Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? I should go into business. Wonder how many this company sells at those prices. On Nov 12, 2006

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
Really? How long do you estimate it would take you to make such a gown? On Nov 12, 2006, at 8:27 PM, Susan B. Farmer wrote: Quoting Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I should go into business. Wonder how many this company sells at those prices. Who Knows! But I could sure sell them a

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Lauren Walker
, 2006 11:46 AM Subject: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? Gores in various configurations were used to widen skirts from the early middle ages on (it's an early step in the evolution of tailoring), but the use of a contrast gore for stylish effect is not really documentable

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Sue Clemenger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? Well, except that in reality what costs $1 in the USA costs £1 in the UK. So from the UK seller's point of view it would be a more accurate reflection of their how much

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Sue Clemenger
- From: Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? Really? How long do you estimate it would take you to make such a gown? On Nov 12, 2006, at 8:27 PM

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Elizabeth Walpole
- Original Message - From: Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages??? Personally, I wouldn't touch it if it were mailed to me, free. And sure