[h-cost] Re: Bjarne at Gustavian feast

2005-10-07 Thread Pierre Sandy Pettinger

Bjarne is the subject of the 6th row, center picture

www.my-drewscostumes.dk/bl17.htm

Sandy

At 01:00 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote:

Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 06:54:50 -0700
From: WickedFrau [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bjarne, first, I am sorry to hear of your broken wrist!  Lovely
pictures...are you in any of them?  I thought it might be you in the
yellow silk suit-but it is a little hard to tell with all the makeup?

Sg


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Re: [h-cost]Bleak House, was Henry James film

2005-10-07 Thread Kate M Bunting
 
 
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/10/2005 19:09  wrote

 
.I am looking forward to the new Bleak House.  Do you know when it will 
be coming out and especially, coming out on DVD?

It starts on UK TV next week. I suppose it will come out on DVD after the whole 
series has been shown.

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[h-cost] Review? Women's Costume 1877-1885: The Complete Dress and Cloak Cutter

2005-10-07 Thread Dawn

http://www.hedgehoghandworks.com/catalog/BKCT5048.shtml

It's me again. :)

Does anyone have this title, or have comments on the contents?  The 
description says pattern diagrams and illustrations but I'm wondering 
if it has real intructions or if it's just copies of old scale diagrams 
that I have to interpret myself. (Like a lot of other books)




Dawn


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[h-cost] Cleveland?

2005-10-07 Thread sunshine_buchler
Hi! I'm moving from the San Francisco area to Cleveland in 2 weeks, and I was 
wondering if there is anyone else on this list in the Cleveland area?
Cheers!
-sunny


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Re: [h-cost] Review? Women's Costume 1877-1885: The Complete Dress and Cloak ...

2005-10-07 Thread Cheryldee
 
In a message dated 10/7/2005 10:23:11 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yes, it  is the original scale patterns and illustrations from tailoring
and fitting  instructions originally printed. Unless the late Jean
Hunnisett has a  successor to carry on  her Period Costume for Stage and
Screen series  of books, I doubt we will see any more books on historic
patterns scaled to  fit the modern wearer.



And because the information on the Princess line of this period is so  
difficult to come by, it is a good source of information.  I would be  lost 
without it during my current design and build of Doll's House.  It  also 
contains 
a detailed account of etiquette regarding the proper  time and place for 
different fashions of the time IE. Traveling, visiting,  promenading, opera, 
mourning (all three degrees), etc.  Cheryl  Odom
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Re: [h-cost] Cleveland?

2005-10-07 Thread Jill Hadfield

big grin
I live in the Cleveland area in the North East of England - any good?

Jill

At 12:43 07/10/2005 -0600, you wrote:

Hi! I'm moving from the San Francisco area to Cleveland in 2 weeks, and I 
was wondering if there is anyone else on this list in the Cleveland area?

Cheers!
-sunny


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[h-cost] Punto Tagliato Lace Commission...

2005-10-07 Thread Marie Stewart
Hi all... working late and finally have a chance to update things... so
just in case anyone is interested in the state of the Punto Tagliato
Lace Commission...

http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/ms154/LaceComm/

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Re: [h-cost] Punto Tagliato Lace Commission...

2005-10-07 Thread Chindora
It is awesome!  You are doing a fabulous job.
 
:)
~Kimberley
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Re: [h-cost] Review? Women's Costume 1877-1885: The Complete Dress and Cloak Cutter

2005-10-07 Thread Lavolta Press
The new edition of Hecklinger's _Dress and Cloak Cutter_? It's typical 
of my old friend Robb Shep's books. (He recently moved back to San 
Francisco, in a neighborhood near mine! But Fred Struthers is still 
distributing Robb's books from Fort Bragg, for those who want to buy 
direct; the URL is www.rlshep.com.) The _Dress and Cloak Cutter_ 
contains a solid selection of women's pattern drafts primarily oriented 
to tailored clothes, probably drawn to true scale but I haven't done the 
math to check. Anyway it includes all the period drafting instructions 
and a supplementary section on clothing etiquette.


If you want sizing, our two-volume anthology _Fashions of the Gilded 
Age_, which contains several hundred patterns for women's garments from 
1877 through 1882, includes many patterns that use an apportioning scale 
system. Volume 2 also includes a dressmaking manual with information 
drawn from many sources. Both volumes contain extensive quotes from 
fashion columns and other sources on construction, fabrics, trimmings, 
what was worn when, etc.


Paper patterns, in the sense of Butterick et al, are just not a suitable 
production format for a book. Basically you've got a trade-off. You can 
buy individual full-sized patterns in modern sizes and get the 
convenience of that. Or you can buy a book, and enlarge and size the 
patterns (even if they are drawn to _a_ modern size, it's not 
necessarily the wearer's). And you get a much larger range of styles at 
a lower per-pattern price. But book and full-size pattern publishing 
formats can't do all the same things; think of a book's sizing and 
binding issues. Aside from the shelving issues that make a book larger 
than 8 1/2” by 11” significantly harder to sell to both bookstores and 
libraries, the more you put into a book for each pattern, the fewer 
patterns will fit in it. You also have to realize that if you want a 
book that is a direct reprint of an original source (like most of 
Robb's) or based on original sources (like ours), there is not an 
infinite number of original sources. The further back you go, the fewer 
there are. The best books in English with women’s clothing patterns that 
I know of (and I’ve been collecting for decades) are the Hecklinger that 
Robb reprinted (and Robb’s also collected for decades), and an extremely 
rare US source that we used for parts of _Fashions of the Gilded Age_. 
The German book that we used as a source for the apportioning scale 
patterns, and some others, is a bigger (many more patterns) and IMO a 
better book than Hecklinger’s. But, we had to pay a professional 
technical translator quite a lot. And I still had supervise her very 
closely using my knowledge of period patterns and clothing, and what's 
left of my college German. And there isn't an infinite number of foreign 
sources either, nor are they, as a general rule, hugely different from 
the ones in English.



Fran
Lavolta Press Books of Historic Patterns
http://www.lavoltapress.com



Does anyone have this title, or have comments on the contents?  The
description says pattern diagrams and illustrations but I'm wondering
if it has real intructions or if it's just copies of old scale diagrams
that I have to interpret myself. (Like a lot of other books)



Dawn


 


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Re: [h-cost] Review? Women's Costume 1877-1885 --correction

2005-10-07 Thread Lavolta Press
Sorry, I meant not the best original books of patterns for all time, 
but the best ones for women's clothes of the late 1870s and early 1880s, 
specifically; not before or after. 


Fran
Lavolta Press
http://www.lavoltapress.com

The best books in English with women’s clothing patterns that I know 
of (and I’ve been collecting for decades) are the Hecklinger that Robb 
reprinted (and Robb’s also collected for decades),


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Re: [h-cost] Review? Women's Costume 1877-1885: The Complete Dress and Cloak ...

2005-10-07 Thread AlbertCat
 
In a message dated 10/7/2005 7:49:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I just  have no 
idea how to assemble clothing from this era without it looking  like a 
bad home ec project.



*
 
Oh c'mon! I'm sure your skills are more then adequate. 
 
The way I was taught:
One thing is, you have to trace all sewing lines and not rely on even seam  
allowances like a commercial pattern. Indeed, if the bodice is flat lined,  as 
they usually are, the best way is to trace on the flat lining, and then hand  
baste the lining to the fashion fabric while each piece is flat on a table 
[FLAT  lining after all] right on [or just outside] the traced sewing lines. 
This 
way  you can see the sewing lines on both sides of each pattern piece. [If 
the fabric  was thick, we would baste right on the traced lines, and sew just 
to 
the outside  of them...to make up for the thickness of the layers of fabric.]
 
You then line pieces up by sticking a pin through the two pieces being  sewn 
together to line them up. Then using ANOTHER pin to pin it in place before  
you take out the pin you used to line it up. Lots of balance marks help.
 
The other non-modern thing is you must set sleeves into the armseye. None  of 
this sewing the sleeve seams and underarm seam at the same time stuff. Again  
using the line-up-with-a-pin method and matching seams if they match and  
lots of balance marks. My friend who used to work with me on period movies 
would  
hand bast in sleeves after pinning if they were difficult, like Gigot or  leg 
o' mutton sleeves, before sewing them in by machinebut you  don't NEED to 
do this. 
 
All this basting is of course pulled out later.
 
And of course clipping the allowance of curved seams so they will lay flat  
when pressed open is a must.
 
I once saw a pair of 1890s bodices obviously made by the same TOC  
seamstress. The insides were beautiful. The curved seams of the 6 piece backs  
were 
scallopednot just clipped...like they were clipped every inch or so and  
the 
right angles of the clipped seam allowance cut off in curves. Then  pressed 
open. Then the raw scalloped edges were bound in narrow magenta  seam binding. 
THEN a bone, covered in brown glazed cotton, was cross stitched  down the 
center 
of each seam, to the seam allowance, with magenta thread.  All those 
scalloped and bound and boned seams converging to about an inch apart  at the 
waist 
was a thing of beauty!
The front was just 2 pieces [as usual] with 2 darts on each side of CF  under 
the bust, again with boning cross stitch down each dart that  was clipped 
just once at the waist.
 
This is the way to do it. Time consuming? A bit. But, y'knowif  you're 
gonna do it anyway.
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Re: [h-cost] Review? Women's Costume 1877-1885: The Complete Dress and Cloak ...

2005-10-07 Thread Kitty Felton


Ok, I just gotta ask.  first of all, what is a TOC seamstress?
then more importantly, was the seam binding sewed to the scallops in 
scallops or was it straight following where the seam was or would be?


thanks,  Kitty

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
In a message dated 10/7/2005 7:49:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 
I once saw a pair of 1890s bodices obviously made by the same TOC  
seamstress. The insides were beautiful. The curved seams of the 6 piece backs  were 
scallopednot just clipped...like they were clipped every inch or so and  the 
right angles of the clipped seam allowance cut off in curves. Then  pressed 
open. Then the raw scalloped edges were bound in narrow magenta  seam binding. 
THEN a bone, covered in brown glazed cotton, was cross stitched  down the center 
of each seam, to the seam allowance, with magenta thread.  All those 
scalloped and bound and boned seams converging to about an inch apart  at the waist 
was a thing of beauty!
The front was just 2 pieces [as usual] with 2 darts on each side of CF  under 
the bust, again with boning cross stitch down each dart that  was clipped 
just once at the waist.
 
This is the way to do it. Time consuming? A bit. But, y'knowif  you're 
gonna do it anyway.

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