Have replied off-list to all who have been kind enough to respond to my query.
Julian Wilson
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If you do pattern drafting, there is a German book on drafting historical
costumes and the Cranach gown is in it, it includes the drafting of the top,
sleeves (just the basic ones, all the puffs are on you), and three
possibilities of how to make the skirt. I use this book a lot and though I
I'll definitely have to look for that. Thanks for the info!
Zuzana Kraemerova [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a publication from
Rundschau, a company that makes (modern) drafting magazines. I believe it costs
about 60 euros and it includes drafting instructions on women's garments from
the
It does indeed look like damask to me, also, but I'm not an expert. Also,
the second red stripe - it looks to me like it's been laid over the damask
and reverse appliqued (design cut out of the red and stitched rather than
the yellow being applied on top of the red). What do you think? It's
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The Burda pattern is charming, and I do love a fishtail hem, but I do
not think that you, as a dancer will be pleased. The upper skirt
looks likely to shorten your stride at the knee. IMHO, It should be
fine for Argentine tango, 30s foxtrot, 20s tango, but
In a message dated 10/6/2007 10:35:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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The first costuming book I ever had was _The Pictorial Encyclopedia of
Fashion_, by Ludmila Kybalova et al. (It's a translation.)
That is the book we used as the text in our college class, back in
Dress in 18th century Europe 1715-1789. by Aileen Ribeiro. Amazon Uk have
it.
Bjarne
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What a great idea! I also am short and while I have shortened some garments,
this method sounds wonderful. I will have to attempt.
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REPLIED - WITH MANY THANKS - OFFLIST.
JW
Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dress in 18th century Europe 1715-1789. by Aileen Ribeiro. Amazon Uk have
it.
Bjarne
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Not one of those huge hoop skirts. Impossible to
dance a waltz in that.
Well, they waltzed quite a lot in hoops in the
period.
In the 1860s, when hoops were worn, waltzes and polkas
and schottisches were
I haven't tried their patterns before. I was in a rush and ended up using a
modified version of the bodice from Simplicity 7756 and the sleeves from8735.
They work well enough, but the back neckline of the bodice is quite high and
the sleeves require some adjustign and fitting as well. I've
--- LuAnn Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, absolutely. It's just interesting to trace the
evolution because the crinolines that have the open
fronts are so much more comfortable / wearable /
danceable than the earlier hooped petticoat style.
LuAnn
My 'open-front' hoops have partial
Lord, yes Kinko's staff has ABSOLUTELY NO understanding of fair use. As
a matter of fact, most of the time, they have it exactly backwards. I
have been Repeatedly told by Kinko staff that if I was making multiple
copies for classroom use, it would be all right, but since I only wanted
one
I'm a bit confused. Are you asking Kinkos to make copies for you or
are they walking around policing people to see what they are making
copies of by themselves?
Sylrog
On Oct 7, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Mary + Doug Piero Carey wrote:
Lord, yes Kinko's staff has ABSOLUTELY NO understanding of fair
Do you have a title and ISBN nr.?
Seems to be a very interresting book!
Bjarne
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If you do pattern
I'd get my digital camera out and take photos instead.
Aylwen
On 08/10/2007, at 4:16 AM, Sylvia Rognstad wrote:
I'm a bit confused. Are you asking Kinkos to make copies for you
or are they walking around policing people to see what they are
making copies of by themselves?
Sylrog
On
At 06:31 PM 10/6/2007, you wrote:
These are not cheap books (most of them anyway) but they are some of
the best for the period. Amazon.com carries most of them, but not
always at the best price.
My favorite place for buying books like these is http://www.abebooks.com
Sometimes the prices
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My favorite place for buying books like these is http://www.abebooks.com
For out of print books, it is the best! It is actually a clearing house of
many, many (I don't know HOW many) individual
For finding books online, also try
http://used.addall.com/
http://www.addall.com/
http://www.bookfinder.com/
These are also meta-searches that trawl through lots of peoples'
inventories.
Melanie Schuessler
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Hmmph! Just last week I went to Kinko's to copy a couple of patterns.
They could not possibly have been more accommodating, one of the
assistants actually fed the sheets into the poster copier for me. I told
her that I wanted to copy the pattern because I needed several sizes
made up, and I needed
Oh! I LOVE waltzing in hoop skirts! It's FUN! If you visit Dickens Fair,
they have tons of people doing just that all day long.
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In a message dated 10/7/2007 4:44:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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http://used.addall.com/
http://www.addall.com/
I've had several disappointments with addall. Got all excited and then the
book wasn't available after all. Never had that happen using abe.
Ann
Again, not my statement.
De
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Not one of those huge hoop skirts. Impossible to
dance a waltz in that.
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Interesting. I've had that happen on both, and I would think the
incidence would be the same for both, as they're both simply
searching through other peoples' inventories. I don't think addall
or abebooks has any control over whether people actually have the
books they're listing.
It's
Hello everyone,
I don't really post to this list very often but I was wondering if anyone
had any ideas on what I could breate out of a bedding set I have, it's a
Green Satin King Siz set. I've already used the sheets to make a simple
kirtle. My problem is that I'm not exactly sure what to make
ABE and Alibris are services various booksellers, and even random
individuals, can join to sell books; they pay ABE and Alibris for this
service. I looked into the terms of both a couple of years ago when my
mother died and left me her large personal library (most of which,
however, is still
On Sunday 07 October 2007, Melanie Schuessler wrote:
Interesting. I've had that happen on both, and I would think the
incidence would be the same for both, as they're both simply
searching through other peoples' inventories. I don't think addall
or abebooks has any control over whether
Thanks, Fran, for explaining the differences in the various book finding
sites and how they work.
Ann Wass
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Danielle M. Dewey wrote:
I have a comforter, pillow cases and
curtains. Preferably the clothing I would creat out of it would be in a
medieval style. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.Thank
you.
I honestly can't think of anything medieval that would be made in green
Might make a nice 18th c quilted petticoat...
Sarah
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I have a comforter, pillow cases and
curtains. Preferably the clothing I would creat out of it would be in a
medieval style. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.Thank
you.
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here's a website that hold Victorian Ball about 4 x's a yr.
http://www.lahacal.org/film/waltz.html
there is a video on the addy of the Merry Widow Waltz showing women
waltzing with hoops of all sizes, this is my favorite web video to watch, it's
like being transported in time...
Mine is a modern one and I have no problems.
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Actually, a lot of the
http://pintura.aut.org/BU04?Autnum=11507Empnum=0Inicio=106
Click on the little picture and a new screen comes up, click on that picture
and another screen which will allow you to enlarge a bit more then the
wikipedia and a bit clearer. From the left of the skirt it appears to be
appliqué with
Dangerous Liaisons ISBN# 9-780300-107142 (I'm not sure if the 9 is part
of the number. The others are the ones under the barcode, the 9 is to the
left of the barcode.) This is a book with photos of the Metropolitan Museum
of Art's display of 18th century fashions, set on dummies doing what they
Again, 1830s gowns did not have the hoops and crinolines, the fullness came
from the petticoats a few may have had horse hair tap or cording around the
hem.
The 1830s were refered to as the Jacksonian era.
Have not used these patterns
http://www.pastpatterns.com/008.html
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I don't think addall
or abebooks has any control over whether people actually have the
books they're listing.
I think addall has a bigger 'reach' but I've never personally been
disappointed at
I was one of the founders of the Social Daunse Irregulars. My photo is
still hidden away on their webpage. Period waltzing certainly can be done
in hoops. The clothing was worn when the dance was created! Not so sure
about modern show waltzing.
Ron Carnegie
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Ooo, lookit the one that's two down from Katharina... it's black with
a gold-coloured placket and all those PEARLS!!! I want to make that
one... the hat's a little wacky, but oh wow, the black--is that
velvet? Pearl work all down the sides, and more beading on the gold
top of the placket...
OMG ... those GLOVES
That is a super super super fine leather . if it is real and not just an
artist interpretation. H Does anyone know of an inventory of
costumes and accessories for Katharina?
Chiara Francesca
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