Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

2013-10-21 Thread Aylwen Gardiner-Garden
I get told by musicians that they can't breathe - wind players and singers can't get enough breath. Cheers, Aylwen On 21 October 2013 16:42, Kim Baird kba...@cableone.net wrote: It's perfectly possible to sit in a Victorian corset. Victorians did it all the time. It does have to fit

Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

2013-10-21 Thread Maggie Koenig
I've costumed singers and dancers before and if you take their chest measurements with them at rest and them at a full breath there can be a rather large difference. Their corsets are likely made for a resting breath measurement so it is restricting them from taking as deep a breath as they are

Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

2013-10-21 Thread michaeljdeib...@gmail.com
Another huge factor is whether you'd musicians are they rehearsing in their corsets or just wearing them for performances? It is fully capable to sing of play an instrument corseted but they MUST rehearse and practice doing so. That aside, elastic panels would help, Michael Deibert OAS AAS

Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

2013-10-21 Thread michaeljdeib...@gmail.com
Sorry, hit the send button too soon! Elastic panels could help bit perhaps adapting the style would be better. A mesh or sports corset might provide enough give while also providing enough support for the period. Lastly, would be a style that would not need a corset. Perhaps the light boning

Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

2013-10-21 Thread Kate Bunting
I remember having a discussion about this on the list some years ago (10+?) after I had nearly fainted while playing the shawm in a 17th century corset in a sunny window. I was told that a corset should not be laced so tightly as to restrict your breathing. Of course I'm aware that corsets of

Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

2013-10-21 Thread Susan Data-Samak
Maggie said : What you will need to do is either find a dress style that can work without the corset or you will want to create a corset that incorporates elastic panels and/or elastic instead of a woven lacing string. The elastic will stretch as they breath and move allowing them their full

Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

2013-10-21 Thread hippy_dippy_dancer
I have some experience with this. The first bit is probably not helpful in the short term. It is the fact that ballet dancers are taught to breath long rather than out so their ribs do not expand too much to fight the. Canvas corset like bodices for classic costumes. The second bit might be

Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

2013-10-21 Thread Carol Kocian
On Oct 21, 2013, at 5:15 AM, michaeljdeib...@gmail.com wrote: Elastic panels could help bit perhaps adapting the style would be better. A mesh or sports corset might provide enough give while also providing enough support for the period. The problem there, though, is that the gown worn

Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

2013-10-21 Thread Bonnie Booker
Corsets weren't worn in early Tudor times. I research 1490 give or take 20 years. On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Carol Kocian aqua...@patriot.net wrote: On Oct 21, 2013, at 5:15 AM, michaeljdeib...@gmail.com wrote: Elastic panels could help bit perhaps adapting the style would be better.

[h-cost] Clothing of the Future, 2000

2013-10-21 Thread mhprobe...@gmail.com
This was fun - anything look familiar? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9eAiy0IGBI Melissa Roberts ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Clothing of the Future, 2000

2013-10-21 Thread Kim Baird
That was hilarious! They did get the see-through mesh right. kim -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of mhprobe...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 11:20 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Clothing of

Re: [h-cost] Clothing of the Future, 2000

2013-10-21 Thread Monica Spence
Thanks for the video. I'm going to share it with my Costume History class. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Kim Baird Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 12:57 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost]

Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

2013-10-21 Thread Kathleen Norvell
Here are some web sites for the Aesthetic clothing movement. The late La Mode Bagatelle had a pattern pack for an Aesthetic tea gown. I don't know if it's still available. I'm sure musicians would be very comfortable in these since they are loose.

Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

2013-10-21 Thread albertcat
Greetings... When corseting opera singers (who some actually like their corsets for the proper posture it gives them) we would have then take a deep breath before the final lacingand laced them up snug, but not tight, while they held their breath. When they do let their breath out,

Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

2013-10-21 Thread Galadriel
I agree with the comment about having the musicians take a breath while finishing your lacing. I'm also intrigued by the idea of 3 laces to really control where the corset is tight. As for the corsets themselves, I am of the opinion that corsets are necessary to get the correct shape (and

Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

2013-10-21 Thread Cactus
I'm thinking maybe not tie the corsets so snugly.  They are actually very comfortable to wear.  Or look into corded stays rather than boned stays. Cactus Apache Junction, AZ   From: Kathleen Norvell app...@aol.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 10:28 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

2013-10-21 Thread Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A.
After a couple of surgeries I now wear a compression camisole most of the time, except to exercise. They really are comfortable if done right. From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of Cactus [shirleyjho...@yahoo.com]