[h-cost] Jeans (WAS: illustrator vs fashion historian)

2006-08-17 Thread Chris Laning
Every so often the conversation comes around to a point where I feel like mentioning again Drea Leed's hilarious little essay on 21st-century "superwide" jeans -- a paper (to be) given at the CXII Interplanetary Costume Collegium, 2543 A.D. Her excellent Elizabethan Costuming site has moved si

[h-cost] Favorite one-period-interprets-another - Victor's book of the opera

2006-08-17 Thread david webb
Has anyone else inherited the c. 1910's "Victor book of the opera" from their grandparents? I had the reputation of a bookworm as a child, so maybe someone else pawned it off on my parents for me. It includes heaps of photographs of Edwardian opera stars in costume, acting very hard for the camera

Re: [h-cost] favorite one-period-interprets-another

2006-08-17 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Thursday 17 August 2006 2:50 pm, Julie wrote: > But I, and others of "mature" years do not wear my jeans ridiculously baggy > or tight. Shoes seem to be the best giveaway to gender. Can you really > tell me that you haven't seen someone whose gender you couldn't tell by > their clothing? I'm

Re: [h-cost] An interesting book find.

2006-08-17 Thread Ann Catelli
--- Michelle Plumb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been contemplating a 1680s-ish gown for a > while, and there is a stunning example in the book: > > Late 17th century gray wool with brown and blue > striped edged in red. > Embroidered throughout in silver-gilt thread. > > The gown in compl

Re: [h-cost] favorite one-period-interprets-another

2006-08-17 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
Shoes seem to be the best giveaway to gender. Can you really tell me that you haven't seen someone whose gender you couldn't tell by their clothing? Not from the front anyway. So, I still think that a future reenactor, particularly male, could be reasonably accurate from the 1950's in jea

[h-cost] RE: metal thread (loquacious)

2006-08-17 Thread Five Rivers Chapmanry
Robin wrote: Odd. The article I was just editing on Opus Anglicanum embroidery, written by someone who has handled a lot of surviving pieces, specifies that the thread was metal wrapped around a silk core, and always couched (which is consistent with what I had read earlier in other places). So tha

Re: [h-cost] An interesting book find.

2006-08-17 Thread Michelle Plumb
Yes, that's the dress! Thanks, Suzi. The color photo will help a lot. Michelle ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] An interesting book find.

2006-08-17 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 20:38 17/08/2006, you wrote: Hello, all. My spinning guild had its annual garage sale Saturday. You never know what you're going to find there. I dove into a pile of books looking for treasure, and came up with something interesting: English Domestic Needlework of the 16th, 17th and 18

[h-cost] An interesting book find.

2006-08-17 Thread Michelle Plumb
Hello, all. My spinning guild had its annual garage sale Saturday. You never know what you're going to find there. I dove into a pile of books looking for treasure, and came up with something interesting: English Domestic Needlework of the 16th, 17th and 18th Centuries, by Preston Remingt

Re: [h-cost] favorite one-period-interprets-another

2006-08-17 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 8/17/2006 2:53:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I, and others of "mature" years do not wear my jeans ridiculously baggy or tight. My husband and I, both of "mature" years, do not wear jeans at all. Ann Wass ___

Re: [h-cost] illustrator vs fashion historian

2006-08-17 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
And, at least around here, the fit of the jeans. Guys wear them ridiculously over-sized and baggy, And hanging half way down the *rse in London - I swear some of them will fall down as there is no waist and hips to stop them. and gals wear them ridiculously tight! but showing builder's

Re: [h-cost] RE: metal thread (was Lack of thread in extant garments)

2006-08-17 Thread Robin Netherton
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Sue Clemenger wrote: > I was under the impression (perhaps misinformed, and certainly > relatively inexperienced) that a lot of opus anglicanum was couched > with silk threads. Yes. That's what I described. > Especially when done as "underside couching," which > needs a str

[h-cost] favorite one-period-interprets-another

2006-08-17 Thread Julie
But I, and others of "mature" years do not wear my jeans ridiculously baggy or tight. Shoes seem to be the best giveaway to gender. Can you really tell me that you haven't seen someone whose gender you couldn't tell by their clothing? I'm not talking the folks walking in Hollywood purposely t

Re: [h-cost] RE: metal thread (was Lack of thread in extant garments)

2006-08-17 Thread Sue Clemenger
I was under the impression (perhaps misinformed, and certainly relatively inexperienced) that a lot of opus anglicanum was couched with silk threads. Especially when done as "underside couching," which needs a stronger thread for the couching, but produces a remarkably flexible fabric. In "undersi

Re: [h-cost] re: favorite one-period-interprets-another

2006-08-17 Thread Sue Clemenger
I've got a two-volume, illustrated set of Shakespeare's plays that's been in the family since the late-ish 1800s. The illustrations are priceless--famous actors of the day, wearing what they would have worn on stage in the various roles. A 19th century's version of 16th century stage clothing

[h-cost] Re: Thread in extant medieval garments

2006-08-17 Thread Beth and Bob Matney
Eva, When and where will your work on this be published? Will it be available in English? Beth Matney At 08:46 AM 8/17/2006, you wrote: Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:13:12 +0200 From: "Eva Andersson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The thread in the Bocksten Bog man's costume did NOT survive. It was theref

Re: [h-cost] illustrator vs fashion historian

2006-08-17 Thread Glenda Robinson
I have a theory that there's a reason only boys wear them like this - the girls don't have the equipment to hold them up :-) Glenda. (my teenage boys are glad it's the style - both are very thin, and that's the way their trousers go anyway) - Original Message - And, at least around

Re: [h-cost] RE: metal thread (was Lack of thread in extant garments)

2006-08-17 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi, I wondered about this also. I have used gold passing thread, but it is way two thick to embroider stitches with. I cauch it on the outlines i make, to embellish them more. Using couching silk to the gold. Bjarne - Original Message - From: "Robin Netherton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: [h-cost] RE: metal thread (was Lack of thread in extant garments)

2006-08-17 Thread Robin Netherton
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Five Rivers Chapmanry wrote: > Passing thread, however, the most fragile of all the gold > threads, and the most difficult to work, is as you say, a gold foil > (lower grades have a copper core, laid with silver, laid with gold, > while better grades have a silver core

Re: [h-cost] illustrator vs fashion historian

2006-08-17 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 12:11 17/08/2006, you wrote: In a message dated 8/16/2006 11:10:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: not to mention a slight possible difference in the cut of the t-shirt. And, at least around here, the fit of the jeans. Guys wear them ridiculously over-sized and bagg

Re: [h-cost] illustrator vs fashion historian

2006-08-17 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 8/16/2006 11:10:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: not to mention a slight possible difference in the cut of the t-shirt. And, at least around here, the fit of the jeans. Guys wear them ridiculously over-sized and baggy, and gals wear them ridic

Re: [h-cost] re: favorite one-period-interprets-another

2006-08-17 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 8/16/2006 11:34:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a "Centennial Dress" from the 1870's that's a really interesting take on quasi-Colonial. I'm still trying to figure out what they were doing with the flat-fronted skirt that has some really

[h-cost] RE: metal thread (was Lack of thread in extant garments)

2006-08-17 Thread Five Rivers Chapmanry
Robin wrote: Even in embroidery, precious metal thread is typically couched (laid on top of the fabric and held down with stitching of a non-metal thread), as the act of repeatedly passing the metal thread through fabric tends to strip the metal wrapping off the thread core. This is partia