[h-cost] Ice, was: ironing washed linen and misc.
Years ago, I visited Germany and was amazed that a good deal of the country drank soft drinks at room temperature. When I was visiting Berlin, we went out to an Italian restaurant for dinner. I had a heck of a time making the waiter understand that I wanted tap water with ice in it! He looked at me like I had suddenly sprouted another head. :-) I got the same reaction in London when I requested iced water at breakfast. The staff got used to the request and began bringing a pitcher of iced water every morning. kate - Original Message - From: Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, August 19, 2007 1:17 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] ironing washed linen and misc. To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you Linda for the Robert Doyle source. I don't think my mother had a frig when she was growing up. Her mother was very old-fashioned, so I am curious for her response. My mother visits us for two months every year. Last year, she taught me how to starch the 1950s petticoats and dollies. Oh, how I hated wearing those scratchy petticoats when I was little. But the starching dollies stiff really works! Mom said that the dollies with special designs like ripples will stand up for six months. And the ones we starched did. She said during the six months when they get dusty just pick them up and shake them. I did this and they keep their form! I also liked the frig history webpage you recommended. Thank goodness for the frost-free frig! Boy, I hated to defrost the frig and freezer when I was a kid! It was my chore. This is way off topic but it deals with the ice... I am hooked on the Modern Marvels show this summer. This week one episode was about the history of tea. It was really interesting. They quoted that the U.S. is the only country that drinks tea with ice. Why is the U.S. the only one? Who came up with the idea of drinking tea with ice? Our family has been discussing this all week. We are serious ice tea drinkers. My last trip to England, I visited some of my costumer friends. I was dying for ice tea. I asked them if I could make some. I wish I had a video camera for their reaction while watching my son and me drink a half gallon of ice in a few hours. They just thought that we were destroying the art of drinking tea. My husband declares the Mason/Dixon line is in Fredericksburg, VA. He is a real Southern Gent and needs to have his sweet ice tea with lunch and dinner. When we travel to DC, the last place he can get sweet tea is Fredericksburg. And we hear him gripe if we eat a meal in DC because of the unsweet tea. I kept waiting in the Modern Marvel show for them to discuss the ice tea history. But they never did. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] So on the whole Japanese question...
I 'm going to eventually use the sand silk herringbone suiting,,, ...but for a draft/muslin/version-I'm-willing-to-wear-if-it-turns-out I found a green/yellow windowpane plaid that will definitely make striking hakama and (if the yardage alllows) a nice kataginu... andy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re :tea
Penny Ladnier wrote: Oh Linda... hmmm... the Lipton factory is your neck of the road. From Modern Marvels tea episode: http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detailepisodeId=214205 How did I miss this? The _Good Eats_ tea episode is a miracle... andy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] So on the whole Japanese question...
--- Andrew Trembley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I 'm going to eventually use the sand silk herringbone suiting,,, ...but for a draft/muslin/version-I'm-willing-to-wear-if-it-turns-out I found a green/yellow windowpane plaid that will definitely make striking hakama and (if the yardage alllows) a nice kataginu... andy I sure hope you will wear that at one point at Costume Con next spring, 'cause I want to see it. The use of plaids in Japanese clothing is seriously underrepresented in western recreations. :) Ann in CT Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Ice, was: ironing washed linen and misc.
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Years ago, I visited Germany and was amazed that a good deal of the country drank soft drinks at room temperature. When I was visiting Berlin, we went out to an Italian restaurant for dinner. I had a heck of a time making the waiter understand that I wanted tap water with ice in it! He looked at me like I had suddenly sprouted another head. :-) I got the same reaction in London when I requested iced water at breakfast. The staff got used to the request and began bringing a pitcher of iced water every morning. Heh. In most cases, I prefer my drinks without ice. So I loved it in England because I never had to say no ice the way I do here (and half the time in the US, the wait staff forget and bring me iced drinks anyway). I routinely confused English wait staff, though; I could pass for a Brit till I opened my mouth, when my American accent was obvious -- but wait, no ice, maybe she's not American after all... I endeared myself to the staff on a British Airways flight by asking for lemon squash, no ice, for my drink. Americans never ask for squash, but they keep it on board for the occasional Brit who does. At the end of the flight the steward pressed the rest of his bottle of squash concentrate in my hand as a gift. You can buy it here in the US, but typically as a gourmet item, and expensive. (Ditto with demerara sugar, used routinely for coffee in England but obscenely expensive.) Back to costume, sort of: The key to passing as a Brit, at least a decade or two ago, was the shoes. I wore Clarks or similar walking shoes, not athletic shoes. American tourists typically wore white athletic shoes. It might not be so obvious a difference now, as black athletic shoes and many other styles of walking shoes are more popular in the US now. I was shoe shopping this week for the first time in ages, and saw Skechers with athletic-shoe soles and construction, but tops that looked like casual flats. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Demara sugar, Was Ice
Robin wrote: (Ditto with demerara sugar, used routinely for coffee in England but obscenely expensive.) I get bags of paper tubes of Demerara sugar (Domino brand) for $0.70/bag at the local Big Lots. The stores are all over the place- their store locator is here: http://www.biglots.com/store_locator.aspx You could also try Sugar-in-the-Raw. It's similar, and you can get it in the supermarket for about twice the price of regular sugar. -Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Demara sugar, Was Ice
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Helen Pinto wrote: I get bags of paper tubes of Demerara sugar (Domino brand) for $0.70/bag at the local Big Lots. The stores are all over the place- their store locator is here: http://www.biglots.com/store_locator.aspx Oh, thanks! That product was discontinued in my local grocery. (I bought a bunch when it got marked down, but it's good to know it's still out there.) You could also try Sugar-in-the-Raw. It's similar, and you can get it in the supermarket for about twice the price of regular sugar. Not quite the same, and my husband (who developed a taste for real demerara in England) maintains he can tell the difference. ;-) --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Ice, was: ironing washed linen and misc.
I have never liked ice in my drinks and, like you, always requested it without and usually got it anyway in the US. We moved to England last January and now I love that I can get soda the way I like it. But... they always ask if I want ice or lemon in my pepsi/coke. At first, I thought it was because they heard my American accent and assumed I would want ice, but I found out that they are required to ask everyone. I don't live in a touristy area either. Teena Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh. In most cases, I prefer my drinks without ice. So I loved it in England because I never had to say no ice the way I do here ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Ice, was: ironing washed linen and misc.
I hate ice in my soda because it makes flat and watery, so whenever I'm at a restaurant I ask for soda, no ice. The annoying thing, though, is that they pour the soda from the same container as the soda with ice, so I'm still getting flat, watery soda. Argh. One of the many reasons I am slowly but surely switching to tea. Costume content... uhm... uh... Ohyeah. I'm saving all my used tea bags for future dying projects! And I'm learning which types of tea dye what color. -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Demara sugar, Was Ice
So what is Demara sugar anyway? Sugar in the Raw is cane sugar from Hawaii that is not as refined as white sugar...so has some molasses still in it. Is Demara like granulated jaggery?...which is also made from cane I think. There's another Indian sugar made from dates or something like that. What is it called? Sur? or Siir? Gur? Can you starch a ruff with any of this? [trying to tie it into costuming, y'know] BTW, you can get jaggery on Amazon.com. I was gonna make chikki [sesame brittle] one Christmas, but never did. H...Maybe this year. Demara sugar is also available at Amazon I see...in cubes and in a 1lb bag. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Demara sugar, Was Ice
At 10:54 AM 20/08/2007, you wrote: So what is Demara sugar anyway? Sugar in the Raw is cane sugar from Hawaii that is not as refined as white sugar...so has some molasses still in it. Is I have no idea what the equivalent of demara for the US is (or anywhere apart from UK/NZ/Australia) but this (UK) webpage has a list of definitions for various sugars and syrups. http://www.deliaonline.com/ingredients/sugars-and-syrups,244,IN.html But it doesn't list Raw sugar though. Maybe raw is golden granulated and golden caster? Just thinking that because I've seen every other sugar listed there sold in Australia except golden and with the addition of raw sugar. Sharon Can you starch a ruff with any of this? [trying to tie it into costuming, y'know] The idea of a starching a ruff with demara just brings to my mind a possible side effect of sugar waxing. Sharon ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re :tea
Andy, Modern Marvels also runs marathons during the afternoon hours. I turn on History International (HI) while I am working late at night. They run the Modern Marvels series late at night. They repeat a lot of the History Channels shows on HI. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re OT: :tea
My email to the list about tea: Our British friends will love this one. Snapple has bottled cold tea and has a large varieties of flavors. They are now selling Earl Grey tea. A very funny advertisement for this on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sky6wceYyg0 . The Modern Marvel show about tea includes the history of China tea industry, East India Trading Company, Boston Tea Party, etc. The tea plantation near Charleston, South Carolina is over 200 years old and the only existing tea plantation in the U.S. Tea and coffee grounds are good to use in potted house plants. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Demara sugar, Was Ice
More on Demerara- I was in my local supermarket this afternoon getting baking soda for the fridge, and guess what was on the shelf next to the brown sugar and confectioners' sugar? Re-sealable pound sacks of Domino brand Demerara sugar for $2.29. This is not an upscale foodie market, just a regular Giant Eagle. Yours may have it, too. -Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
