Re: [h-cost] A Fete at Bermondsey-for all the Elizabethan costumers

Your computer added < and > to it so that I had to cut and paste. Was no problem. -Original Message- Oh dear! I didn't think it was going to break or I'd have tiny'd it myself. Thanks! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http:/

Re: [h-cost] Farthingale thoughts

michaela de bruce wrote: >> There's a nice book on Spanish costume, entitled [strangely enough] >> "Hispanic Costume 1480- 1530" by R. M. Anderson (1979), where the >> author has pulled together artwork of the period and grouped it by >> garment type to show the development of styles. It's a g

Re: [h-cost] Farthingale thoughts

> There's a nice book on Spanish costume, entitled [strangely enough] > "Hispanic Costume 1480- 1530" by R. M. Anderson (1979), where the > author has pulled together artwork of the period and grouped it by > garment type to show the development of styles. It's a great place > to get started

Re: [h-cost] Farthingale thoughts

Emma, this is definitely not underwear and it has nothing to do with Salome herself. It's more of a fad among the well-to-do, from roughly 1470 to 1500, in Spain. My guess is that the artist used this style of dress to indicate that Salome was a lady of high rank. (My Bible dictionary sa

Re: [h-cost] Farthingale thoughts

otsisto wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/4rk3xu > I knew I would find the site with the other "farthingale styles. Great collection. You can get a little information about the images by holding the cursor over them, and some show you closeups (but not all, and not all the linked ones work). The unan

Re: [h-cost] A Fete at Bermondsey-for all the Elizabethan costumers

Oh dear! I didn't think it was going to break or I'd have tiny'd it myself. Thanks! On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:47 PM, otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Original Message- > I thought you'd all like to see what has to be the best version of this > painting EVER available made available,

Re: [h-cost] A Fete at Bermondsey-for all the Elizabethan costumers

-Original Message- I thought you'd all like to see what has to be the best version of this painting EVER available made available, now at Wikimedia Commons. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im...1569.png http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Joris_Hoefnagel_Fete_at_Bermondsey_c _1569.png htt

Re: [h-cost] Farthingale thoughts

http://tinyurl.com/4rk3xu I knew I would find the site with the other "farthingale styles. -Original Message- Re this picture: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Pedro_Garcia_de_Benabarre_St_John_Re table.jpg The farthingale worn on the outside is seen all over the place in Spanish

Re: [h-cost] Farthingale thoughts

Re this picture: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Pedro_Garcia_de_Benabarre_St_John_Retable.jpg The farthingale worn on the outside is seen all over the place in Spanish art, at least according to Ruth Matilda Anderson, in _Hispanic Fashion: 1480-1530_ (a book I highly recommend if you'r

Re: [h-cost] A Fete at Bermondsey-for all the Elizabethan costumers

OMG! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Karen Seamstrix -- Maggie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I thought you'd all like to see what has to be the best version of this painting EVER available made available, now at Wikimedia Commons. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im...1569.png

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for more images see: Anderson, Ruth Matilda. Hispanic Costume, 1480-1530. Hispanic notes & monographs. New York: Hispanic Society of America, 1979. ISBN:0875351263 9780875351261 OCLC:4858873 http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=isbn%3A0875351263 Note that the shape is different from the later cone

Re: [h-cost] A Fete at Bermondsey-for all the Elizabethan costumers

At 19:27 10/06/2008, you wrote: > I thought you'd all like to see what has to be the best version of this >painting EVER available made available, now at Wikimedia Commons. > >commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im...1569.png

[h-cost] A Fete at Bermondsey-for all the Elizabethan costumers

I thought you'd all like to see what has to be the best version of this painting EVER available made available, now at Wikimedia Commons. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im...1569.png commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im..

Re: [h-cost] Farthingale thoughts

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Great painting, isn't it? I love all the hand gestures, denoting > astonishment(?) Not to mention the bizarre non-perspective of the platter, and the dishes on the table. Talk about hand gestures (and facial expressions) -- see my absolute favorite Salome here (cli

Re: [h-cost] Farthingale thoughts

In a message dated 6/10/2008 12:52:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If that's true, why are hoops also visible on the ladies behind her? It is possible that by this point, the visible hoops had become code for "Salome" and were picked up by other artists of the sam

Re: [h-cost] Farthingale thoughts

The only place I have heard/seen of Salome dancing naked (near naked) is in Hollywood pictures. Anyway, if you look at the two women behind her, they are wearing the same type of hoop skirt so I am inclined to say that she is not dressed only in her under garments. I believe that there are more exa

Re: [h-cost] Farthingale thoughts

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was looking at the painting of Salome (top left, > http://www.elizabethancostume.net/farthingale/history.html ) that is > generally accepted as one of the earliest forms of > farthingale/virtugarde/verdugados. I've heard the "Look, first the > hoops were worn on

[h-cost] Farthingale thoughts

I was looking at the painting of Salome (top left, http://www.elizabethancostume.net/farthingale/history.html ) that is generally accepted as one of the earliest forms of farthingale/virtugarde/verdugados. I've heard the "Look, first the hoops were worn on the outside, but very quickly they