Emma, this is definitely not underwear and it has nothing to do with  
Salome herself.  It's more of a fad among the well-to-do, from  
roughly 1470 to 1500, in Spain.  My guess is that the artist used  
this style of dress to indicate that Salome was a lady of high rank.   
(My Bible dictionary says that she was the king's stepdaughter; she  
danced for the king and his dinner guests so probably NOT naked.)

There's a nice book on Spanish costume, entitled [strangely enough]  
"Hispanic Costume 1480- 1530" by R. M. Anderson (1979), where the  
author has pulled together artwork of the period and grouped it by  
garment type to show the development of styles.  It's a great place  
to get started if you're interested in this era.

Suzanne

> Date: June 10, 2008 10:43:20 AM CDT
> To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [h-cost] Farthingale thoughts
> Reply-To: Historical Costume <[email protected]>
>
>
> I was looking at the painting of Salome (top left, http:// 
> www.elizabethancostume.net/farthingale/history.html ) that is  
> generally accepted as one of the earliest forms of farthingale/ 
> virtugarde/verdugados. I've heard the "Look, first the hoops were  
> worn on the outside, but very quickly they became an underskirt and  
> hidden" interpretation.  I was thinking about the allegorical  
> aspect of religious art.
>
> Salome was supposed to have danced naked before she asked for the  
> head of John the Baptist.
>
> Is it possible that the artist depicted Salome in her underwear to  
> hint at this nakedness, and that hoops were never actually worn on  
> the outside?  (if that's true, why are hoops also visible on the  
> ladies behind her?)  Are there any other depictions, anywhere, of  
> hoops on the outside?
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Emma

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