Not especially my period, but were they worn straight on the head? If you
wear a hat tilted back so it sits where an alice band would be, rather than
around the crown of your head, then the crown of the hat can have a circular
rather than oval profile.
Claire
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009
I usually wear my reproductions level or tilted to one side. I wear one
daily. I have seen them worn at all angles in portraiture. The round shape
of a proper reproduction (most do not have it) really isn't as much of a
problem as one would think
I'm your huckleberry
Ron Carnegie
Does anyone know where this might be found? I have someone who needs to
talk costume/clothing/armor with someone who knows the details.
Dawn
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On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Dawn d...@reddawn.net wrote:
Does anyone know where this might be found? I have someone who needs to talk
costume/clothing/armor with someone who knows the details.
Dawn
Hello,
has anyone ever seen a ruff that really had the stitching along the
outer edge to keep the 8s in shape? Period Costume for Stage and
Screen even suggests embellishing the ruff with beads on top of
these stitches, but I feel they are just a theatrical neccessity as
the ruffs are not
Quoting Dawn d...@reddawn.net:
Does anyone know where this might be found? I have someone who needs to
talk costume/clothing/armor with someone who knows the details.
It will probably depend on the kingdom. Which kingdom is your friend in?
jerusha
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Susan Farmer
sfar...@goldsword.com
At 19:39 09/04/2009, you wrote:
Hello,
has anyone ever seen a ruff that really had the stitching along the
outer edge to keep the 8s in shape? Period Costume for Stage and
Screen even suggests embellishing the ruff with beads on top of
these stitches, but I feel they are just a theatrical
This is curious - someone else mentioned to me the other day that they had read
in Janet Arnold's new book, POF4 that the ruffs were never stitched to hold
the folds in shape. (She cited the back part of the book where starching and
shaping was described.)
I reread that section and could see
Not really read, but it´s the technique described
in Period Patterns for Stage and Screen. I
always liked the way the ruffs turned out, but
I´m beginning to doubt the historical accuracy of
the technique, so I thought I´d ask here.
Hanna
At 21:18 09.04.2009, you wrote:
This is curious -
I have not seen one, but I would say natural color.
Henry W. Osier
Chairman, Costume-Con 28
May 7 to May 10, 2010
www.CC28.org
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IMHO, they're not folded and stitched onto a wide neckband till the early
1600s. I cite as evidence those portraits of Mary, Queen of Scots, which
show her ruff from two different angles. I think earlier ones are tightly
gathered at the seam at the top of the neck band, heavily starched, and
I'd agree with you here. It kinda makes sense that it would develop that way-
Started out as just a frill on a cuff or neckband and then got increasingly
more complicated.
I have made them both ways - for very different looks. I made a reproduction
of this gown
In a message dated 4/9/2009 3:19:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
wickedf...@msn.com writes:
Are you citing something you have read?
*
The 4th Janet Arnold book does indeed have a ruff with the 8's held in
place by dots of wax. I think there is also evidence of pins used
As far as I can tell from the available evidence, even the huge
post-1600 ruffs were not set into wide cartridge pleats at the neck
edge which were then butted up against and sewn to the entire height
of the neck band. Every extant piece I've ever seen has had the ruff
gathered tightly or
Hello all!
While I know this is not related to costuming, a friend suggested
sending a memo to my fellow costume list members. I am starting a club
based in the Philly area that is dedicated to appreciating the 19th and
early 20th centuries. We are called the Delaware Valley Ladies and
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