Re: [h-cost] 1957 wedding dress price
I made mine in 1955 and it cost between ten and fifteen dollars. That was complete with hoop and veil. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: juliana foulare [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [h-cost] 1957 wedding dress price Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:19:35 -0700 (PDT) I found this http://home.att.net/~design-house/vintage_brides/vintage_brides_we_love_3.htm. I also asked my mom (she was married in 1957) her mother made her dress and she could not remember the cost, however she said that maybe cost $20.00 in materials. - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] ironing washed linnen.
My personal experience has been that ironing dampened linen works better than steam ironing. But it probably depends on your steam iron. Mine just doesn't produce enough steam to work well with linen. Good luck. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [h-cost] ironing washed linnen. Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:16:45 +0200 Hi, Its ben a while since i ironed my linnen shirt, and considering that i have to iron some fine linnen cambric i have washed and tumbled. Wich way is the best to iron it? Should i wet it a little and let it get damped for a while before i iron it, or should i just steam iron it? Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] upcoming book
Thanks. I don't know why it didn't work the first time, but I guess I gave them too much information. Cut and Paste worked just fine. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: RE: [h-cost] upcoming book Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:21:25 -0400 Try: The Worldwide History of Dress. When I ordered the book I just cut and pasted the title from here and it came up. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lalah Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:46 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] upcoming book I can't find it listed at Amazon. Did you find it under another name? Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: RE: [h-cost] upcoming book Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 22:38:16 -0400 I'm looking forward to the 1000 color pics. Mine is on order at Amazon. I would kill to get a GOOD fashion history text for my students. I hate the one we are using. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Margo Anderson Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:23 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] upcoming book Title: The Worldwide History of Dress: the Origins of Fashion from the Paleolithic to the Present. Wow! Nothing like a narrow, specific focus. I look forward to seeing how they did this in 608 pages. Margo ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] upcoming book
I can't find it listed at Amazon. Did you find it under another name? Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: RE: [h-cost] upcoming book Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 22:38:16 -0400 I'm looking forward to the 1000 color pics. Mine is on order at Amazon. I would kill to get a GOOD fashion history text for my students. I hate the one we are using. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Margo Anderson Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:23 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] upcoming book Title: The Worldwide History of Dress: the Origins of Fashion from the Paleolithic to the Present. Wow! Nothing like a narrow, specific focus. I look forward to seeing how they did this in 608 pages. Margo ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] American Civil War
THANK YOU! I was sure I had read that somewhere, but couldn't come up with a reference to suit my friend. If the local group has to have their button holes on the left, fine, but it isn't necessary for authenticity. And I simply don't have time to hand sew miles of loopy braid on the skirt and remake the blouse. Don't you love people who come up with complicated designs two weeks before an event? And that's two gowns, not just one. Thanks for the help. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: S Paterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [h-cost] American Civil War Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:25:27 -0400 Lalah - victory may be yours I happen to have a copy of Juanita Leisch's 'Who Wore What?' 1861-1865 - (not my period at all but I helped her with a fashion show at Colonial Williamsburg and it was a kind gift) I looked in it for pictures of ladies WITH men and in several photographs I see right-over-left buttoning for women while the men's wear is still left-over-right. Note that: there are an equal number of photographs with the women's wear buttoning left over-right as well, so this could be a transition time Hope this helps Sarah Paterson -Original Message- I am making garb for a Civil War enactor's girl friend and his mother is driving me crazy. She has some really weird ideas and since she has been playing with this group for a number of years, I just shut up and do what she wants. However, I made the mistake of putting Fray Check on the buttonhole marks on a blouse and it spread out and it shows badly. Having tried everything I can think of to remove it, I am ready to take the blouse apart and make a new left front. Then it occurred to me that it would be easy to use the left side for buttons and put the buttonholes on the right. My friend went crazy saying they never had the buttonholes on the right. I am so sick of the whole thing that I don't want to do any more research. Does anyone know if the buttonholes HAD to be on the left on women's blouses during the Civil War period? Also what kind of hat would be appropriate? I am not going to make her a fez! Thanks for the help Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christmas gift exchange
Ooo, please let us know if he goes on line. Thanks for a drooly report. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ruth Anne Baumgartner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [h-cost] Christmas gift exchange Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 14:03:43 -0500 He's in the north end of Bridgeport, CT. I've been telling him he HAS to go online, but so far he hasn't. He's kind of a shy man. Anyway, last week I did get him to promise maybe in the new year for a website. It's a mill-end shop, so the stock varies, but he has gorgeous silks (including dupioni) and linens, both 100% and various blends, and a great variety of trims. (Plus of course cotton prints, sequinned and embroidered fancy fabrics, fake furs, muslin in every width known to wo/man, etc. etc.) Prices are very good generally. I just succumbed to 3 yards of upholstery fabric in what the Crayola crayon company used to call Prussian blue with a brocade design of squares filled with Jacobean-style flowers alternating with a lattice pattern, tones of gold and rose. Sixty inches wide. $10 a yard. I didn't ask re fiber content, but it's got a very good hand and soft sheen--and the back, being primarily those rose tones, is almost pretty enough to show off on its own. Putting this on my livingroom futon would upgrade my whole home--but maybe I'll upholster MYSELF in it rather than my couch! Also got a yard of Czech rhinestone beading, $12.50--so far, just to look at! And what I bought two yards of and STAYED IN MY H-COST SANTA LIMIT is I think remarkable. His wife is Indian and he is from one of the Arab countries, and occasionally they also have scarves and pashminas, if they've recently taken a little trip to see their folks. Hop on a plane and come see me, Kimiko, and we can wallow around. --Ruth Anne On Dec 26, 2006, at 11:52 PM, Kimiko Small wrote: Alright Ruth Anne, where is this fabric store, and can we get there online? Do share anyways even if a physical store only, as I'm collecting good store recommendations. Kimiko Ruth Anne Baumgartner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went to my favorite discount fabric store to shop for my partner's gift--he has gorgeous trims that are remarkably affordable-- __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Christmas gift exchange
I got two skeins of wonderful chenille yarn (I feel a scarf about to happen) and a book on Renaissance lace, embroidery and needlepoint patterns. How great is that? Thanks a million to Jordana for such a thoughtful gift! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christmas gift exchange
I mailed mine on the 7th (the day before the deadline) and received one last week. I tried to put that information on the list but got a message from the list manager saying it was an inappropriate subject. Since others are mentioning theirs now, maybe this will go through this time. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [h-cost] Christmas gift exchange Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 01:02:20 + Hhm.. What a funny thing to get! I wish I had received my H-Costume gift...I'm sure there's a good reason why I've not gotten it. I mailed the gift for my secret person on the 18th so hope it's been received, too! Everyone have a wonderful, safe and warm Holiday Season! Elena/Gia -- Original message -- From: Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want Dawn to set up a post-Christmas gift exchange! Possibly with anonymous donors . . . I opened some gifts from a relative early and, although I'm sure there is someone who would love a pinkish mauve feather boa with some charcoal gray striped tips, it's isn't me. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Bad historical costume movies
I have thought about this business of costumes reflecting fashion at the time they were made before. If you look at a period film from the 40's the costumes look 40's and so on. But now that I think about it more seriously, I suspect is they are done that way to appeal to the majority of the audience who are NOT well informed about the clothing of other eras. They are trying to make a movie that will sell, not one that is historically accurate. At least that is the way I see it. Does that make it right? No, but it makes them money and that is why they are in business. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Bad historical costume movies
No movie with Yul Brenner could be really awful. :o) Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Elizabeth Walpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [h-cost] Bad historical costume movies Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:39:14 +1000 Although The King and I is not as really awful as some other movies of that era the direct comparison is kinda nice. Elizabeth Elizabeth Walpole Canberra Australia ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au http://au.geocities.com/amiperiodornot/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] invisible zip (ok, not v. historic!)
Just a suggestion from a sewer/crafter. Match the fabric color with acrylic paint and paint the tab. The acrylic paint comes in a zillion colors and is cheap. If you carefully clean the tab with vinegar or alcohol and tape around it, painting will not be difficult. It dries fast, but let it really dry well, like overnight, and it will stand up to much use. I have used acrylic paint on all kinds of things with very good results. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: katherine sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] invisible zip (ok, not v. historic!) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:07:37 + (GMT) Ack - I just put in an invisible zip in a very non-historic dress but the tab at the top is a) the wrong colour and b) hanging out I tend to use eyelets, laces, pins etc to close clothing for clients but this is a new problem and not one I can work around... Any suggestions? (polite ones thank you). No sign of zips this colour in the locale so I could always take it out and put in a regular one but this is so cool and makes it look like just another seam... until you get to the tab at the top! Katherine the stumped p.s. the zip is cream, the dress is pale green poly-wool crepe and the style is tea-length princess seamed a-line, with slightly flared mid-bicep sleeves and a sweetheart neckline. The customer is /always/ right... A positive attitude may not solve all of your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort - Herm Albright ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] final word RE: Update on Bjarne
Sorry, I picked up on this by accident. I was out of town when this started and couldn't read all that mail when I got home. Don't you people know about the DELETE button on your computer? If there is a subject you aren't interested in - delete it. I am not going to comment on the rest of this because it is beginning to be pretty nasty and if I comment then it will bring retaliation and I will get mad and go off the list. I normally love this list and would hate to lose it as a valuable resource. Everyone have a great day!!! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [h-cost] final word RE: Update on Bjarne Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 23:54:57 -0700 otsisto wrote: Fran, 1. By the comments being made this thread was wrapping up. It's about time. Next time someone wants to do psychotherapy on h-costume, could they do it by private email? 2. There are several who know Bjarne and maybe felt that depression was a possibility. He never said he was depressed, that was all other people's assumptions and assertions. And if he did, again, this is a costuming list. It's not group therapy. I'm sure most members over the years have gone through personal difficulties at one time or another, but they have thankfully not brought them all to this list. There is a time and a place for everything. 3. Every time everyone wants to impose feelings on other people/ /Then the guy apparently got tired of everyone talking about it,... Excuse me. But I did say apparently, which many other people have not bothered to do. 6. I'm sorry that you feel that other's concern for another is like a wading through a sewer. I'm not particularly interested in emotions, personal chat, gossip, trivia, etc. And frankly this discussion sounds like a lot of exaggerated gossip, busybodyness, and dramatization. I'm sorry if this sounds heartless, unfeeling, or unfeminine to you, but what I want in life is intellectual stimulation and challenge, to learn things, and to discuss topics of interest to me. Costuming being one of them. If you think that makes me not nice, too bad. My viewpoint is just as valid as yours. I do not know Bjarne but admire his work. I really don't see that Bjarne is any more special than everyone else in this group. I stayed out of the thread because if it was depression I do not know how to give support but others seemed to know. I would rather see support and care given just because of a possibility then no support and something terrible happens. Give me a break. We've moved from someone saying they're bored with their current projects, through everyone else claiming it's depression, and now implying it's a suicide threat. None of which comments about depression or other serious problems come from the person most concerne--and which, when made without any basis, are irresponsible. Now I will try to grant your request for a change of topic back to costuming. De THANK YOU. Fran Lavolta Press http://www ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] finished left side of the waistcoat
I am still in awe of your talent! That is so beautiful. I don't know how you could possibly think anything else would have been as terrific. Thanks so much for sharing and inspiring!! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [h-cost] finished left side of the waistcoat Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 14:25:17 +0200 I just finished the left side of the waistcoat with spangels. Took me 2 weeks to make, i promised to update, when finished.. http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/cel.htm I am now taking a break and goes a trip to Tivoli in Copenhagen, have a nice coffe and a big cake :-) Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] silver spangeled suit
OK, kiddo - I am twenty years older than you and still keep coming up with new projects. Don't think you are old at 51. For goodness sake you are in the prime of your life. As for your worry about your stuff, it is probably why it is so fantastic when it is finished. You are a perfectionist and it shows in every thing you make. However, worry is not good for you, so try to ease up a bit. Any time you have doubts just show what you are working on to this list. We are your fan club. Keep on making those beautiful suits! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [h-cost] silver spangeled suit Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:43:05 +0200 Hi Lalah, Thanks for your words. Its nice to know if you dont think it will look two Hollywood like, with those flowers. This buisiness messing with costumes, surely gives many problems, i sometimes worries two much about small things. In the end, it will be ok i hope. If i were 30 years younger, perhaps i would try to look for other solutions, but i dont have that much time any more, to take from, being 51, and there are so many things i want to make yeat Bjarne - Original Message - From: Lalah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] silver spangeled suit For what it's worth, my opinion is they flowers look terrific. But then, all of your work is always terrific. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [h-cost] silver spangeled suit Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:06:32 +0200 Hi. Seems to me i can already say, its impossible for me to make nice even flower spangels. I give up! I must be satisfied with the filligree flowers. I uploaded pictures of this projekt, if you would like to se. I would like your oppinion about these flowers, what do you think are they two much? The flowers on the tsars suit, are much more simple. http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/cel.htm Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] silver spangeled suit
For what it's worth, my opinion is they flowers look terrific. But then, all of your work is always terrific. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [h-cost] silver spangeled suit Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:06:32 +0200 Hi. Seems to me i can already say, its impossible for me to make nice even flower spangels. I give up! I must be satisfied with the filligree flowers. I uploaded pictures of this projekt, if you would like to se. I would like your oppinion about these flowers, what do you think are they two much? The flowers on the tsars suit, are much more simple. http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/cel.htm Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] When and how did you start making costume?
I have a cockatiel and an African grey parrot, and I would really prefer that they not become kitty kibble. I grew up in a home with a parrot and cats. Trust me, the cats are the ones most likely to become kibble. Sorry about your husband - he doesn't know what great pets cats can be. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dianne Greg Stucki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [h-cost] When and how did you start making costume? Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 06:53:21 -0400 _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] When and how did you start making costume?
I started sewing when I was about five. My mother made handkerchiefs for my father and she would give me one to hem. I remember sitting there trying to make tiny little stitches, and failing. However, my father was a love and used them anyhow. Mother had a treadle Singer (we didn't have electricity at the time), and as soon as I could reach the treadle I started sewing doll clothes on it. I quickly found they were easier to do by hand. My first dress was actually a pinafore of white pique with little blue flowers. It had a ruffle around the hem and ruffles on the straps over the shoulders. And I was sooo proud of it. I loved to sew until I took home ec in the 10th grade. After that horrible experience I didn't sew for several years. In college I went back to it because I couldn't afford to buy formals. And I have been sewing ever since. I even made a living being a seamstress for several years, but hated the alterations and finally quit that. Costumes - ah yes, I made costumes for Halloween and then did the entire cast of a period play in college. That was a blast! I made costumes for friends and their kids off and on for years. Then I joined a Star Trek group and made Star Trek uniforms for most of the crew. Science Fiction conventions required costumes for me and for friends. Then I joined SCA and really got into some serious research. Most of my period costumes are made by hand for authenticity and because I have learned to enjoy doing the hand work now that I am retired and have the time. I enjoy the research, design, finding just the right fabric and trim, and the sewing. I don't really like the cutting out because it is boring and makes my hands hurt. I have a closet full of hand made costumes, and ended up buying three pairs of slacks to take on a trip last month. I must get around to making myself some modern clothes one of these days. Cats - oh yes! Somewhere in the neighborhood of twenty or so. I seem to be the favorite place for everyone to palm off their unwanted cats and kittens (or cats about to have kittens). But I love them and they have an acre of land (and the woods on three sides) to wander in. I have them spayed or neutered so they don't continue to reproduce unwanted kittens, and they get their shots annually. Every month I take two or three to the vet for check-ups and shots. They also have their own door so the can come and go as they please. The only rooms off limits are the guest room and the sewing room. They can get in way too much trouble in the sewing room, and I like to keep the guest room for guests who may or may not be in love with cats. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [h-cost] When and how did you start making costume? Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:12:04 +0100 In discussion with a couple of friends at the weekend, we fell to talking about when we started sewing. One friend is a re-enactor, the other a former wardrobe mistress for the National Theatre among other things. Both of them had started very early, making clothes for themselves and for dolls. And they did it for pleasure! (And I am a professional costume maker.) Now I never made clothes for dolls that I remember. As a teenager I occasionally, and very badly, made the odd skirt or blouse for myself. I started work in the maintenance wardrobe of the RSC at 24, and the first serious making I did was in a rep company a couple of years later when I found it was part of my job as a wardrobe mistress to make the pantomime costumes. (I hate pantomime!) I got out of that very quickly, and went back to maintenance, eventually got married, had a son, and went to college as a mature student of 40 to learn to cut and make costumes. I discovered I was good enough never to have been out of work since I left college 20 mumble years ago. But I still hate sewing up the costumes! I love the working out of what the customer wants, the choosing of the fabrics, the making of the patterns and cutting them out, (skip the next bit - the sewing up) love hand finishing, trimming, and fitting. But please could someone tell me where to get a magic wand to sew everything together? Oh, and coincidentally to the sewing conversation, we wondered if it was a given that costume makers, whether professional, gifted amateur, or occasional maker, have cats? All the ones I know do. Suzi (about to sew the 5th Mary Queen of Scots costume, and putting it off!) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] When and how did you start making costume?
I made a fashion doll (pre Barbie) a Marie Antoinett gown, complete with a wig made from cotton balls when I was in the ninth grade for a history project. Don't have a clue what happened to her though. We moved a lot. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [h-cost] When and how did you start making costume? Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 13:25:40 EDT In a message dated 5/22/2006 10:03:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I started making clothes for my Babette doll I dressed Babette as the Empress Josephine in her coronation gown for a high school class and she still wears that to this day, 35 years later. For the record, I think Babette has a prettier face than the original Barbie. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: New MCTBook
I'll second that question! I just got mine and even with company I had to look through it. Now, I can't wait for my company to go away so I can read it. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Wanda Pease [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [h-cost] Re: New MCTBook Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 17:00:32 -0700 Got my MCT Book last week. My only Question: Robin! Are we going to have to wait a WHOLE YEAR for another? Are they taking pre-orders yet? Regina Romsey/Wanda in Portland ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Has anyone heard of the new fabric?
Corn - the new peanut. Sounds like they are trying to make corn into everything from clothes to gas. However, thin, not stretcy fabric sounds good and the dress in the picture looks floaty enough for anyone. Hope they don't use all the corn up - I like eating it. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Venetian Masking
Don't you find the plaster extremely uncomfortable on the face. It gets very hot as it cures. I do stage/film makeup and we use a totally different material to make up the original cast on the face. I can't imagine having that hot plaster on my face for the time it takes to set. Of course the professional method IS expensive and time consuming. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: raelee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [h-cost] Venetian Masking Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:30:15 -0700 Message: 3 Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:47:21 -0800 From: Sharon at Collierfam.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [h-cost] Venetian research question - need help To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm curious. Are you making a plaster mold to then cover in whatever the mask is made of? What do you use for the base (to build upon)? Sharon, who has made masks, with difficulty, because I didn't have a good base :) Patches writes: I've got 2 methods and neither are what the pro shops use. Method 1 that I show folks is to build the mask directly on the face using plaster. This obviously requires a partner. Method 2 is like method 1 only a encase the face in plaster to make a negative mold, seal up the holes, lubricate the inside and then pour about 3/4 gal plaster mix into the negative. Then letting it set for 24 hours and peeling it out of the negative mold. Both methods allow for a mask that fits the face of the model, but not anyone else's. The masks that get built can be shaped with protrusions and etc. quite easily on the face mold with a little planning. I cover my masks with fabric rather than paint b/c I think it looks better and it make things easier for me to sew my decorations on as much as possible (I try to use only a minimum of glue.). The pro shops first make the entire mask in solid clay, so their original bust can weigh up to about 5-10lbs. Once the sculpture is complete, it is encased in a special box and plaster is poured in to fill the whole box. When the plaster has set, the plaster box is removed and the clay cleaned out, revealing a negative in the block. They then pour a glue and paper mix in to the negative and press it into the negative form with their hands and I suspect a special tool that allows them to press a uniform backing into the mask. Once the mask has set, it is popped out, trimmed and decorated. If you would like, I can send you a handout on the plaster and decoration technique that I use. I've got them drafted up already for the workshops, so sending the file isn't a big deal. Patches ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Cable ties and corsets
If the boning isn't continuous you will find that the garment is going to want to bend where the split is. I am not really explaining this well, but if you bend a long piece of whatever you use for boning it will curve. If you bend a section where there are two pieces butted together it will be a sharp bend. That may be ok in some places, but you will probably be happier getting something that is long enough. I have gotten cable ties a couple of feet long. If that is what you really want to use, check around Lowe's, Home Depot and the like. Oh yes, you are right about joining them. It would be uncomfortable and would probably show as a bump on your garment. Good luck. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [h-cost] Cable ties and corsets Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:32:05 -0500 Hi all, I have a question for those who use cable ties in their corsets. I'm making my first 18th-century corset, and it turns out that because some of the channels run diagonally and the bank is so high, my cable ties aren't long enough. So, I'm wondering, will it really be that bad if the bones aren't continuous? I tried tying two bones together, but they made a lump that looked like it might be uncomfortable. Should I go and buy enough ridgeline to fill in the long channels? Thanks! Tea Rose ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Glove pic
And a handsome tuxedo cat it is too! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Danielle Nunn-Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [h-cost] Glove pic Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:38:00 -0600 Ah ha, Suzi, you've got it! It is Henry Wriothesley, the third Earl of Southampton. You can find his portrait in the portrait section of the http://www.boughtonhouse.org.uk/ page or I think this will take you directly there: http://www.boughtonhouse.org.uk/htm/gallery2/paintings/earlofsoton.htm An interesting piece of trivia about this portrait...it is supposedly the first English portrait painted with a cat in it. Cheers, Danielle At 05:42 PM 3/14/2006, you wrote: At 23:01 14/03/2006, you wrote: That is very sheek! :-) What would you use for the small bows? I would recomend you to use silk ribbon of the kind used for ribbon work, its so soft and delicate and would make very nice bows. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Kathy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume List h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:09 PM Subject: [h-cost] Glove pic Okay, I have everything fixed. This is the drawing I was talking about: http://ca.geocities.com/absynthe30/avatars/hand.jpg Look familiar to anyone? This looks like a redrawing from a painting of someone who was imprisoned in the Tower of London, and was painted with a cat. I copied these gloves for the Tower some years ago. I will look out the research and post as soon as I can. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Source for aesthetic style silk
That is cruel! There is a William Morris fabric in that lot that would be perfect for my bedroom drapes. I only need twenty yards and it only runs $110.00 a yard. Now if I ever win the lottery I know where to look for my fabric. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: david webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [h-cost] Source for aesthetic style silk Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:25:59 -0500 Greetings: At $345 Canadian a yard - not even in metres! I'm glad I'm not interested in doing anything in the aesthetic style, but it shure nuff is purty! This rich silk fabric is based on an original made in England in the 1880's. The document (original) colour is in a Robin's Egg blue on Cream, but it is offered in six other colours as well. http://www.charlesrupert.com/traditional/1880to1900/aestheticsilk.html This company has a wide variety of reproduction wallpapers and textiles too. Sheridan Alder ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] My New Wardrobe
I have a plus size friend who can whip up a sideless surcote in a heartbeat. She makes them just below the knee and wears a blouse (or t-shirt) under it like a jumper. They look so good, I keep saying I am going to make some myself, but I never seem to get around to sewing for me. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:25:18 -0600 To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] My New Wardrobe Since there's been recent talk about people sewing for themselves, I thought I'd chime in with my two cents worth. My closet is full of tshirts, sweatpants and too few nice dress clothes. So far in my life I haven't had a job with any type of a dress code so it hasn't been an issue. However, at some point I probalby will. Besides, I've dresed this way for over 10 years and it's time for a change. I'm making my wardrobe because nothing in the stores ever fits across the shoulders. I'm in the process (trial and error) of altering a button up shirt pattern to fit well. I might have it after revision #5 or so! I'm also round in all the wrong places, even for plus sizes, so clothes don't fit other places, either. I'm going to incorporate historic elements into some of my outfits. I love the caraco jackets, and have to do something with them! I discovered that I like fitted, comfortable clothing that allows a full range of movement. So while my clothes won't be historic, they will be historically inspired. Happy fun times with adopting Civil War Era ball gowns to more everyday wear! Kate ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Jealousy, envy desire
Heck, fifty years ago I didn't even have a counselor. Women were supposed to be secretaries or teachers. I did both and was a good teacher, and secretary when I did that, but never happy in either field. Luckily, I found other outlets as I grew older. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- REBECCA BURCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: REBECCA BURCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 06:57:18 -0800 (PST) To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Jealousy, envy desire Hello, again. I've been lurking for the past couple of months and wondered if there is anywhere you have bios of list participants stashed? So many of you seem to be doing what I want to do I wonder how you got there. Makes me wish for a time machine so I could go back 30 years and slap the college counselor who told me costume wasn't a career - I should be a secretary or social worker. Any words of wisdom? Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books
The point is that some of us who buy way more books than we should, have so many different subjects that a catalog (or a well organized library)is pretty much necessary. I had all of my books except costume and cooking in one room before I moved. Wall to wall, floor to ceiling bookshelves built by me and filled with books in different catagories. In this place, there isn't room to build a library and I must get my books out of boxes. I didn't know about these organizers before, but am sure as heck going to get one of them now. I can catalog as I unpack and some day I might be organized (yeah, right). Thanks for the info!! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:46:44 + To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] books At 13:33 25/02/2006, you wrote: Yeh, I promised myself for years too, then a friend told me about librarything. So I'm slowly going through my library and writing the ISBN numbers on a pad for 20 -30 books at a time, shelf by shelf. With all the resources that Librarything can access, it's really not too bad. The books without ISBN do take a little bit longer, but I still rarely have to enter all the info. Beth Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:24:29 -0800 From: Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not yet. I've been telling myself for years that I need to do something like this. But I'll definitely need a lifetime membership :-D. Thanks for sharing the site. Could someone please explain the point of listing one's books? I'm afraid I don't see the point. Mine are all on shelves in my workroom. I know what they are, and where they are. Why would I need to list them? (More time I haven't got anyway!) suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabric Paint
I don't know about the Jacquard brand, but most fabric paints are designed to paint on fabric - not other paint. It bonds with the fabric and gets in between the threads to hold it. I haven't met one yet that works well covering another layer of paint and I have been fabric painting for longer than I care to admit. Even taught it for a while some years back. Some of the newer fabric paints may do the job, but I wouldn't bet on it. You might try using regular acrylic paints as a second coat as they are made to stick to plastic and other non-porous surfaces. Good Luck. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 00:06:35 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Historic Costuming) Subject: [h-cost] Fabric Paint I've been working on a banner for some newly married friends. I'm using Jacquard Textile paints. I'm not sure what happend but one of the panels that I had to wash - after being painted and heatset; the paint bubbled up and peeled off. Well, actually it was the second coat of paint that I had done over a lighter color of paint. The lighter color stayed in place. I'm going to be redoing the whole panel over. Does anyone have any ideas on what might have happened so I don't make the same mistake again? Roscelin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns
Just to add to your observations. It is cheaper to buy clothing at WalMart than it is to make it yourself. When you have to pay ten bucks for a pattern and you can buy a blouse for eight dollars guess which most people will do. At a place in time when so many people are so busy and multi tasking is the norm, too many people don't have the time (nor sadly, the ability) to sew. People new to SCA or Ren Faires or re-enacting are the exception. They are not going to get their garb off the rack in a discount store and most of them are not accomplished at making up their own patterns. People like Martha are a godsend to them because they can purchase a pattern that will pass inspection (to all but the really critical) and that they can understand. It takes a bit of experience to deal with some of the period patterns or to work from a charted pattern on a book page. To cut this rambling short, I just want to add my Bravo Martha and hope that Simplicity has sense enough to know what a gem they have! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Mia Dappert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mia Dappert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:28:38 -0800 (PST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Re:patterns actually, Simplicity may be really gald they have you, Martha. Read that SHOULD BE GLAD. Down here in North Carolina it seems to be the home sewing market is really dried up in the past 10 or so years. Nobody is sewing for children, Nobody is really doing sewing for themselves, There are really no fabric stores in a 100 mile radius of Charlotte beyond, Mary Jos and Hancock's, and mostly they have home deck and quilting fabric, not much in the way of people type fabric. The nearest JoAnns in 90+ miles away. There are several stores at cater to the quilting segment, and one small one that sell Upmarket/Highend fabrics. A this is an introduction to Major Patter Companies can't be selling a huge amount of home sewing patterns. Right now, all I can think of who are doing sewing are the reenactment/costume folks like us. And these are people who will go ANYWHERE, Look at everything, Buy patterns that they don't really need but collect anyway, Have projects in the planning stage for a long time. It would be interesting to know how well the patterns do in comparison to other costume patterns and general run of the mill patterns vs. home dec stuff. 18c Mia in Charlotte NC, remembering the glory days of being near Baltimore MD and Washington DC. Remembering G Street Fabrics when it actually was on G Street DC - What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] A book for Bjarne, and other 18th century embroiderers!!
After reading your post I went to Amazon and typed in the title. I got a bunch of stuff but nothing on embroidery. Then I tried Gail Marsh and got more stuff but nothing on embroidery. How did you find the book? It sounds wonderful. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:48:53 + To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] A book for Bjarne, and other 18th century embroiderers!! I have just received the most wonderful book from Amazon. 18th Century Embroidery Techniques by Gail Marsh, (ISBN 1 86108 476 5) and am drooling as I type. The pictures are clear, and there are diagrams. It includes silk embroidery, metal thread and spangles, whitework, quilting, tambour and chain, crewel and novelty threads,Hollie Point and knotting!! I know there will be other list members interested. I'm back to my cup of tea and the book. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns
I agree that many people prefer quality clothing, but far too many do not. I made a living as a seamstress for several years before retiring and most of my work was home dec or alterations (I HATE alterations). I have taught several people to sew, but they don't seem to ever have time to do it. And at the weekly auction I attend sewing machines (good ones) go for almost nothing. I learned to sew as a child and most of my clothes have always been made by my mother (when I was young) or by myself. But I am 5'9 and 71 years old. Until girls started growing taller these last few years, I couldn't get anything that came close to fitting in the stores. Anyhow, I am glad there are people designing patterns for period garb that most people who sew at all can use. I usually just make my patterns up as I go along or sort of copy them from Janet Arnold or something. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:26:53 -0800 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns What I'm interested in knowing, is how Simplicity chooses patterns--aside from market surveys, don't they do those?--and the people who design them. Is it all freelance? I know someone via the net--or used to, she's not posting any more--who had a small line of reenactment patterns. She approached Simplicity with an idea for a pattern she thought would work well in their historic line. Simplicity told her to work it out and submit it to them on a freelance basis. I don't know what happened with her idea. But is that how all Simplicity's historic patterns are designed, by freelancers? I hate to say this but, the market for general sewing still seems to be much larger than the market for reenactment sewing. Yes, reenactors have to make their own clothes far more than most people. Yes, most women have jobs outside the home that limit their time for sewing. But there are still a lot more mainstream sewers than reenactors. Notice Simplicity hedged their bets on that bustle dress by marketing it as a wedding dress--many people get married, some more than once. Sewing is a hobby these days, not a need, for most people. Many people who could buy an $8 blouse at Wal-Mart, just want something much better quality and more stylish--and they enjoy sewing. Fran Lavolta Press Books of Historic Patterns http://www.lavoltapress.com Lalah wrote: Just to add to your observations. It is cheaper to buy clothing at WalMart than it is to make it yourself. When you have to pay ten bucks for a pattern and you can buy a blouse for eight dollars guess which most people will do. At a place in time when so many people are so busy and multi tasking is the norm, too many people don't have the time (nor sadly, the ability) to sew. People new to SCA or Ren Faires or re-enacting are the exception. They are not going to get their garb off the rack in a discount store and most of them are not accomplished at making up their own patterns. People like Martha are a godsend to them because they can purchase a pattern that will pass inspection (to all but the really critical) and that they can understand. It takes a bit of experience to deal with some of the period patterns or to work from a charted pattern on a book page. To cut this rambling short, I just want to add my Bravo Martha and hope that Simplicity has sense enough to know what a gem they have! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] silk/'natural protein'
Is there anything that they cannot use soybeans for? Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Olympics costumes
Don't know about the curling shoes, but the skaters costumes are really awful this year. I was thinking last night that they should have points for the costumes, but then they would all have them deleted so it would balance out. The snowboarding is a cross over from skateboarding and the kids wear their clothes so big it is a wonder they can keep them up. It looks like the snowboarding outfits are a takeoff on the oversize stuff the kids are wearing. I am just so amazed at what they can do that I forget what they are wearing. I am afraid the costumes are evolving and I am being left behind. Oh well, the skating is still beautiful and the snowboarding is exciting even if their clothes leave a lot to be desired. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:38:49 -0500 To: h-costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Olympics costumes Has anyone been watching curling at the Olympics? Does anyone know what kind of shoes the athletes are wearing? I thought at first they were skates. But they are not. They are soled shoes that glide on the ice easily. Any opinions on the ice dancing costumes? There must have been a sale on skin-toned beige. LOL! I heard today that one rule is that the women could not show their navels. The featured swan costume was molting! Maybe she should have met up with the male skater, Weir's swan costume. Some of the snowboard outfits looked like 1950s pajamas. Penny E. Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery, www.costumegallery.com Costume Classroom, www.costumeclassroom.com Costume Research Library, www.costumelibrary.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question
I have to agree with Betsy. The color is beautiful and looks great on you. If it were me I would go for it. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Betsy Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Betsy Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:08:33 -0600 To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question Don't know about correct for your project, but the color looks pretty good on you! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deredere Galbraith Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 2:00 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question Hi, Today I dyed silk for my 12th century bliaut. And it got a shokking salmon pink. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Bliautsilk.jpg I wonder if this would be right for that period. I dyed it with meekrap. I don't know the correct english name. It is a root that gives orange to red colour and was used in medieval times. And then put in water with a little ammonia sinse orange is really not a colour for me. But I am not totally sure if this is much better :- . I would love to hear other opinions. Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] American Civil War Confederate Uniform Pattern
I doubt if half the subject showed up, but I wanted to be sure just which civil war (stupid name for a very uncivil action) and which side of the conflict I was researching. I have a multitude of pictures of Confederate uniforms, but would really love to have a decent pattern to start with. I don't need patterns for myself or most women, but have not done enough men's clothing to wing it. Does anyone know of a reasonably accurate pattern? Many thanks, Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] American Civil War Confederate Uniform Pattern
Sorry about the double posting. I only sent it once - honest. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Lalah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Lalah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:57:16 -0800 (PST) To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] American Civil War Confederate Uniform Pattern I doubt if half the subject showed up, but I wanted to be sure just which civil war (stupid name for a very uncivil action) and which side of the conflict I was researching. I have a multitude of pictures of Confederate uniforms, but would really love to have a decent pattern to start with. I don't need patterns for myself or most women, but have not done enough men's clothing to wing it. Does anyone know of a reasonably accurate pattern? Many thanks, Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] American Civil War Confederate Uniform Pattern
Thanks to all of you who wrote. I have been making costumes in the medieval and Regency periods for several years, but haven't done any Civil War stuff before this. It should be interesting. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- kelly grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: kelly grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:55:42 -0400 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] American Civil War Confederate Uniform Pattern Of the Smoke and Fire patterns, I would choose stock #RHF-701 for the shirt and #PI-775 for the trousers. While at the Halifax Citadel, who recreates the mid 19thC, we made clothes similar to these patterns. I did make confederate jackets for a couple of the guys to go to Gettysburg the big year. They wore them as 'undress' jackets with basic civi trousers and shirts, they went with the 'Authentic Movement' guys, the movement guys were impressed with their turn out. The pattern I used was from CountryCloth/Chas.R.Childs it was very good, the only thing I did was raise the front neck to a natural curve. I believe that he took a pattern from an existing garment, similar to the ones we had at the Citadel. The undress jackets will scoop out in the neck as they are worn due to the fact of the wool they are made of, without any stabilizing interlining. Hope that helps, if you have any questions, ask...I lived in that time period for several years ;-) Kelly in Nova Scotia Susan wrote: Check outhttp://www.smoke-fire.com/pattern-shop.htm Lalah wrote: of the conflict I was researching. I have a multitude of pictures of Confederate uniforms, but would really love to have a decent pattern to start with. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] new to me
Does her lace ruff stop at the shoulder? It almost looks like it attaches to her black veil. Is that usual? Can't remember seeing anything like that before, but Elizabethan isn't my primary period (yet). Thanks Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:49:13 -0600 To: Historic Costume h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] new to me Miniatures of Nicholas Hillard and his wife Alice Brandon. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nicholas_Hilliard_021.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nicholas_Hilliard_001.jpg De ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Wife of Bath's headcovering
Somehow, I don't think that a linen veil would be so heavy as to weight ten pounds on her head. Could she have had on some kind of really elaborate hat or headgear? Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:34:19 -0600 Melanie Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering about the Wife of Bath and what she's got on her head in the Canterbury Tales: Hir coverchiefs ful fyne weren of ground, I dorste swere they weyeden ten pound That on a Sonday weren upon hir heed. Mainly I'm wondering about the use of the word ground in the first line. I've seen a suggestion that this could translate to mean texture, as in her coverchiefs were of a very fine texture. The OED doesn't seem to offer any goodies, but perhaps I missed something--the entries for ground are quite long! Does anyone have other information about this? Thanks, Melanie Schuessler _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] fine drawing?
I am going to hazzard a guess here as a seamstress, not as an authority on 18th century men's wear. I would think that the fine drawing may mean a fine gathering stitch used to make the upper layer lay flat. I have done many curved seams though, and never needed to use that method, but it does help in getting sleeves into armholes (hidden gathering stitch, of course). Just a possibility. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 17:32:19 +0100 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] fine drawing? Hi Dawn, Gosh i never read that chapter, i surely will now. I dont understand this fine-drawing thing either. Never heard it. Dont you think they just mean that you have to press the seams to the sides and iron? I have never seen any stitches used on the right side of the back pieces. In the american book Costume Close Up there are sewing instruktions two of a mans coat. Only types of stitches used is: back stitches, point รก rabattre sous la main and slanted hemming stitches. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 4:48 AM Subject: [h-cost] fine drawing? I'm trying to translate instructions from _The Cut of Men's Clothes_ for the assembly of an 18th century coat. (page 88 of the recent hardcover edition) The backs are joined together by backstitching on the wrong side and then fine-drawing on the right, working from the skirt opening upwards. Backstitching I understand, but fine-drawing has me lost. I found two references online that seem to suggest it is a method for joining fabric by butting the edges together, but that doesn't work with a seam that's already backstitched... does it? Can anyone clarify this for me? Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elizabethan Style, Nostalgic Needle, Sharon Cohen
Nice website and it loaded quickly on Netscape. Thanks. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 19:05:13 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Elizabethan Style, Nostalgic Needle, Sharon Cohen Hello everyone, Saw the topic of Elizabethan English style costume and wanted to let you know Sharon Cohen specializes in reviving historical hand embroidery techniques - especially those used in Elizabethan times. She also has charts for costume miniatures that are needlework implements (glove shaped scissor cases, nightcap pincushion, etc) We just finished a full size version of Sharon's web site and both of us being novices would appreciate any input on it would like to find out how fast it displays on as many different browsers as possible. _www.nostalgicneedledesigns.com_ (http://www.nostalgicneedledesigns.com) the email address for any comments, questions, and suggestions is listed on the mast of every page in the web site. Thanks in advance, Ola ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pet hair
I have a small sign up in my hallway that reads No outfit is complete without cat hair. I keep planning to make one that says No costume is complete without cat hair to go in the sewing room (which is off limits to the cats but their hair gets in anyway). If you have cats you have cat hair. Learn to live with it - they are worth the bother. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New BBC Elizabethan drama - Virgin Queen
The new queen rides into town to be crowned in a plain gown with her boobs practically falling out and here hair down and head uncovered? Idon'tthinkso. Well, actually they did wear their gowns like that though I don't believe it was appropriate for riding. Elizabeth did go to her coronation with her hair down. She said that she was a virgin queen and wanted the world to know it. Her coronation portraits show her crown on her long (frizzy) red hair which sticks out and is hanging over the coronation cloak. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:21:57 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] New BBC Elizabethan drama - Virgin Queen In a message dated 1/19/2006 5:57:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rather scant content on the costume but a description of the 'creative process' * Really! Who wants to see the continuity book? Sheesh! An appalling lack of hats and coifs too many unbuttoned doubletsa purple and gold shirt The new queen rides into town to be crowned in a plain gown with her boobs practically falling out and here hair down and head uncovered? Idon'tthinkso. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Holiday/Secret Santa Gifts
I received a book on beading, and my secret Santa gift was a beautiful bookmark from Rebecca Schmitt. It is done in meticulous blackwork and is too pretty to use (but I will probably use it carefully - maybe in QEW Unlocked). Most of my gifts were more cat than costume oriented. Oh well, most of my friends and family know I love cats and they don't know much about costuming. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Disposing of fabric
How about a little theatre group? I have used some truly ugly polyester stuff as a costume for the movie a friend is making. It isn't historical, but then the movie isn't either. Some little theatre groups put on plays from the 50's and 60's and the fabric would be great for them. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Lloyd Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Lloyd Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:05:22 -0500 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Disposing of fabric And don't forget your local Senior Citizen center. They often have projects going that use a wide variety of scraps. Or assisted senior care facilities. Ours locally have a craft room that need to be fed on a regular basis. The art teacher at a local elementary school is always asking for my scraps that she uses on a variety of textile projects. Kathleen - Original Message - From: Nancy Kiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:24 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Disposing of fabric Is there a charity in your area that could use the fabric---perhaps to make quilts? Or a school, for art projects? I too have trouble throwing away any but the smallest scraps! - Original Message - From: E Housemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costumemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: What periods for these fabrics?/17th c. linenoutergarments -E House (Still hasn't figured out a way to reasonably dispose of the 10yr-50yr old cloth inherited from g'ma-in-law, which is ugly and smelly but has to be really useful to someone, somewhere) (The cloth, not the grandma.) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] finished sleaves
Mind? You have got to be kidding. We love to see your beautiful work. I can't even begin to imagine how many hours you have spent on this fabulous gown. You are a true artist and I feel privileged to see your work in such detail. Thank you so much for sharing!! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:41:27 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] finished sleaves As sundays usually are quiet here, i dont think you would mind me for showing you the finished sleaves for the yellow dress. They ended up being excactly as i wanted them. http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/chenillestumpwork.htm At the bottom. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT - Pin Cushion
Emery isn't all that difficutlt to find. Go to any rock shop or lapidary supply site (or store if you are lucky enough to live near one) and get the grit made for tumbling stones. You would probably want about a 400 for a pin cushion or the little strawberry emery cushion. 200 would be ok, but I think 100 would be too coarse and 600 would be too fine. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Cin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Cin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:36:27 -0800 To: h-cost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? It's that time of year: holiday parties, winter balls, company dinners, New Years Eve, cocktail parties,12th Night, You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical locale. Whatever the reason, costumers are probably making something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something spiffy on the dummy and *then* tell us about it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
Whoops - I hit the send button instead of the tab. Mine is wearing an almost completed Regency gown I am making for a friend for Christmas. It is soft white lawn with tiny pink rosebuds and very delicate moss green vines and leaves. And I wanted to find a ribbon to match the green, but so far have been out of luck. I may have to go with the pink. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Cin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Cin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:36:27 -0800 To: h-cost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? It's that time of year: holiday parties, winter balls, company dinners, New Years Eve, cocktail parties,12th Night, You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical locale. Whatever the reason, costumers are probably making something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something spiffy on the dummy and *then* tell us about it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] older singer sewing machines
Try eBay. I got bobbins for an 1886 Singer that way. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- jessica lynn potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: jessica lynn potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:49:14 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] older singer sewing machines hello everyone we have a 1951 singer electric sewing machine, and its in reasonable condition, but we are in need of a new or decent bobbin case, machine style number is 201k3e can anyone help with spares or know of any cheap reliable old machines i can buy thanks all jessica ---Original Message--- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] dipping silk in cold water
And just one other note - don't wad the fabric up. Every crease will be permanent. Good luck! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Audrey Bergeron-Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Audrey Bergeron-Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:33:43 -0400 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] dipping silk in cold water Just wondered, what will happen if a silk taffeta was dipped in cold water? Would it get spoiled? Spoiled no. But you'd probably lose some of the shine and crispness. It works well on any kind of silk I've tried (though I've never tied taffeta). Fix your dye with vinegar though, or use silk specific dye. You might also want to try with a little more than a small sample, something big enough to judge changes in the way fabric will drape, because that can change after the fabric got wet. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] a holiday idea
I love it. Since I retired, I miss the gift exchanges we used to do at work. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:35:38 -0500 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] a holiday idea Is there any interest among listmembers for a holiday gift exchange? I envision it working something like this: folks sign up with their name, address, and a 'favorite' (color, period, animal, technique). Each participant receives the name of another participant and is then charged with buying or making a small ($10 -ish) gift and sending it to that person by Dec. 20th. I'm willing to coordinate, of course. :) Dawn wet, windy and cold in KC ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] purse embroideries
Do you ever get tired of hearing how wonderful your work is? I sure hope not, because it makes me feel good just to look at it. Thanks for sharing! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:43:35 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] purse embroideries Hi the list, My last note some time back caused a lot of different feelings, and i should not have posted that. No more political notes from me, sorry if i did heart somebody, but i was just conserned about all the poor people hit by the hurricane. Ben buisy with embroidering more ladies purses, and i have 3 finished ones ready to go with me to Stockholm next friday. I go to 18th centurey ball next saturday, and 3 gustavian ladies ordered purses. I love to make these things, and also because they are much quicker to make than costumes. Actually i have serious plans with this, and thoaght i wanted to make much more accessories for reenacters like aprons, stomachers, purses, pockets and the like. Here is a link to the latest purses: http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/purseembroideries.htm Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Bjarne
I know this isn't costume related and I am not one of the popular people on this list, but I just couldn't keep quiet. The message Bjarne sent sounded like he was more surprised than critical, and give the guy credit - he writes better English than most of us do Danish. I wish I could speak any other language as well as he does. I know that many of us have family or dear friends in the areas hit and are a bit on edge right now, but it isn't fair to take it out on someone who was making an honest mistake. People the world over think that we in the United States are all rich - if you watch TV at all you will understand why. I do believe he was trying to be sympathetic and now he is just being quiet while he is being blasted. I, for one, admire his attempts at English and his wonderful handwork and costuming. I would sorely miss him if he left the list. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Storm update
Dear Penny, As with everyone else on this list, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. Having spent my entire life (all 70 years of it) in Florida, I do know what you are going through. I was worried about my family in Miami until I finally heard from them and they only got Katrina as a baby hurricane. I also have distant cousins (lots of them) in Mississippi, but they are in the upper part of the state and didn't get the horrible devastation the Gulf area did. I do mean this - if there is ANYTHING I can do for you or your family please let me know off list. This is not a time to be mouthing platitudes - this is a time for friends to rally around, and I consider you a friend even though I have never met you in person. Again, my thoughts and prayers are with you. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:16:41 -0400 To: h-costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Storm update I had promised last week that we would have a free access to our Library at the beginning of this week. I am taking some days off this week and have to cancel the free access. A lot of people have written asking about the Library access. After you read the following I think you will understand why I am taking a few days off. Several of you know that I am from the Mississippi Gulf Coast . I was there for two family unions in July. I am from Biloxi/Ocean Springs area and my husband is from Gulfport. Both of us have very large extended families there. They live from Slidell, Louisiana to Mobile, Alabama. I have five siblings and my Mom, my husband have two siblings living on the Gulf Coast. Several of our family members have lost their homes, jobs, and businesses to the Hurricane. My husband's sister in Colorado Springs, my sister in Tampa, and I have been frantically trying to locate our families. Monday morning was the last we heard from those family members that didn't evacuate. Now they don't have phone are internet access. Even the ones who left on the Coast, their cell phones are not working because their area code is for the Gulf Coast. My husband's brother and sister, their spouses, and six children were in the same home, in North Gulfport. They were at the brother's home. The last time we spoke was Monday at 11:00 AM. Their electricity was out and we were talking by cell 15 mins. before the worse part of the hurricane. They didn't know the hurricane eye was heading for them until we called. The sister's home, (my husband's family home since 1920) was about five blocks from the beach in Gulfport. We don't know if the family home is still there, but from photos on TV, we don't have much hope. The home is near where you are seeing the news film where the Dole banana trailers for semi-trucks, Grand Casino, and downtown Gulfport. My Aunt lived two streets from the beach in the same area of Gulfport and we are sure her home is gone... my aunt did evacuate. We don't know where another eldery aunt My mother evacuated to Hattiesburg, Mississippi to my 4th brother house. We talked with them on the phone giving them updates on the hurricane until 15 minutes before the eye of the hurricane hit. Today my sister got in touch with him. He could only talk for a couple of minutes. They took some damage to their house but can live in it. He is a fireman and went to the city, but had to use a chainsaw to cut down trees on the road to get to the city. He did see some TV footage at the firehouse. My mother doesn't know how bad the Gulf Coast is and that she probably doesn't have a house anymore. Her house was near the Beau Riverage casino and the Lighthouse on the beach in Biloxi... near the apt. complex that 30 people died in. Mom worked for my business and my 3rd brother. The apts. that I mentioned was on a street between Mom's house and my brother's business. We don't think he has a business or home anymore. We heard from brother #3 today. He evacuated to Pensacola. He lived in a condo on the beach in Pass Christian. That area took the eye of the hurricane and it is so bad there that very few reporters can get there. Brother #2 is working off the coast of Africa for the past month. He lives in Gautier, MS. His entire family (children and grandchildren) evacuated to Northern Louisiana. We have not idea how their house faired. My brother is due to come in from Africa Wed. or Thurs. night. We don't even know where he is coming into... we can't get threw to his families' cell phone. Ironically he is the boss over several oil rigs in Africa. My 1st brother primary home and businesses in Mobile, Alabama faired well. We just heard from heard from this brother tonight. He has generators and is bringing one to my 4th brother's home in Hattiesburg. We believe my 1st
Re: [h-cost] shapes of German Headdress
It came through 4 times, several minutes apart. And I am giving you a break. I'm sure none of want you to un-sub, but getting off your Holy High Altar of Martyrdom would make us even happier. --sue And she did it again. Miss Mooncat can be pretty nasty in private but wants the list to think she is a sweet little picked on angel. I was ready to drop the whole thing, but she won't let go. OK this is the very LAST thing I have to say in the matter and any further messages from her will be deleted without being read. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:00:40 -0600 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] shapes of German Headdress Hell-! I'd like to point out that the post she saw fit to reply to on a public list was in fact sent to her privately, and was not meant for general consumption. My apologies to the list for you guys having to see the unfortunately-made-public side of my occasionally sarcastic tongue. I quite definitely broke my own rule about not responding in annoyance or anger until at least 24 hrs. have passed. And if I don't sign this post and send it now, I'll probably break it again. So y'all have a nice night --Sue Lalah wrote: I guess there is a reason the list received four identical messages, but I sent only one. It seems that Netscape either sends dupicate messages or doesn't send them at all. I don't know what the problem is and I don't know how to correct it. I did say that I was sorry I wrote my first message and I should think that would be enough to get you people off my case. Give me a break here, I am trying to move from a house I lived in for thirty five years into one that doesn't have nearly as much space and I am exhausted and frustrated and don't need to be jumped on for asking a stupid question. In the future I will make every effort to keep my opinions to myself. OK? Can we drop it now? Thanks - and again sorry to have stepped on any toes. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender Attachments Name Type Save View Message text/plain Save Is there some actual reason you felt compelled to send the same identical message four different times? Isn't that just a wee bit of overkill? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] shapes of German Headdress
OK, consider me properly chastized! I can't imagine wearing something that looks like it pulls your head back as being comfortable, but to each his own. I didn't mean to start a war, just made a comment. Sorry Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Carolyn Kayta Barrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Carolyn Kayta Barrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 23:27:05 -0700 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] shapes of German Headdress Why on earth would anyone want to make one of those. They are most unbecoming and look very uncomfortable. Because the really nice-looking ones, not pictured in the examples provided, are not bad looking at all - kind-of halo shaped things that frame the face: http://frazzledfrau.glittersweet.com/1520scologne.htm http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cgi-bin/WebObjects.dll/CollectionPublisher.woa/wa/work?workNumber=NG291 http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/m/manuel/j_paris.html http://frazzledfrau.glittersweet.com/1500ynurenbergdurer.htm http://www.abcgallery.com/C/cranach/cranach35.html CarolynKayta Barrows dollmaker, fibre artist, textillian www.FunStuft.com \\\ -@@\\\ 7 ))) ((( ) (( /\ /---\)) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] shapes of German Headdress
OK, consider me properly chastized! I can't imagine wearing something that looks like it pulls your head back as being comfortable, but to each his own. I didn't mean to start a war, just made a comment. Sorry Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Carolyn Kayta Barrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Carolyn Kayta Barrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 23:27:05 -0700 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] shapes of German Headdress Why on earth would anyone want to make one of those. They are most unbecoming and look very uncomfortable. Because the really nice-looking ones, not pictured in the examples provided, are not bad looking at all - kind-of halo shaped things that frame the face: http://frazzledfrau.glittersweet.com/1520scologne.htm http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cgi-bin/WebObjects.dll/CollectionPublisher.woa/wa/work?workNumber=NG291 http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/m/manuel/j_paris.html http://frazzledfrau.glittersweet.com/1500ynurenbergdurer.htm http://www.abcgallery.com/C/cranach/cranach35.html CarolynKayta Barrows dollmaker, fibre artist, textillian www.FunStuft.com \\\ -@@\\\ 7 ))) ((( ) (( /\ /---\)) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] shapes of German Headdress
I guess there is a reason the list received four identical messages, but I sent only one. It seems that Netscape either sends dupicate messages or doesn't send them at all. I don't know what the problem is and I don't know how to correct it. I did say that I was sorry I wrote my first message and I should think that would be enough to get you people off my case. Give me a break here, I am trying to move from a house I lived in for thirty five years into one that doesn't have nearly as much space and I am exhausted and frustrated and don't need to be jumped on for asking a stupid question. In the future I will make every effort to keep my opinions to myself. OK? Can we drop it now? Thanks - and again sorry to have stepped on any toes. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender Attachments Name Type Save View Message text/plain Save Is there some actual reason you felt compelled to send the same identical message four different times? Isn't that just a wee bit of overkill? --- Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 07:27:39 -0600 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] shapes of German Headdress Oh, good grief, that's hardly a war. Just several people answering your question in such ways that showed that we didn't agree with you. If you don't want to wear one or make one, then don't. But obviously, some of us would, for the reasons we stated as well as others. My personal and 21st century (American) aesthetics are distinctly non-16th c. German, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth exploring something I don't immediately understand. Heck, that's probably *the* major reason I've played with and learned about historical costuming for the last 2 decades --Sue, curious about it all, even if she'll never get to wear or make most of it... Lalah wrote (several times): OK, consider me properly chastized! I can't imagine wearing something that looks like it pulls your head back as being comfortable, but to each his own. I didn't mean to start a war, just made a comment. Sorry ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] German Headdress
Why on earth would anyone want to make one of those. They are most unbecoming and look very uncomfortable. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Shane Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Shane Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 13:56:45 -0400 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] German Headdress I have always had a fasination for German Ren. clothing, but one detail keeps perplexing me: Would anyone have any idea of how they made these hats/headdress? http://gallery.euroweb.hu/art/c/cranach/lucas_e/6/2cuspin.jpg http://www.wga.hu/art/h/holbein/hans_y/1518/3meyer2.jpg http://www.museothyssen.org/images/obras/museo-thyssen-399-157-Grande.jpg http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_Of_Art/images/ep/images/ep12.115.L.jpg http://gallery.euroweb.hu/art/s/strigel/bernhard/freyberg.jpg I have a couple of vague theories, but was wondering if anyone here had figured out something that works, no sense re-inventing the wheel. :-) Sheridan *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely. Ogden Nash ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] German Headdress
Why on earth would anyone want to make one of those. They are most unbecoming and look very uncomfortable. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Shane Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Shane Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 13:56:45 -0400 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] German Headdress I have always had a fasination for German Ren. clothing, but one detail keeps perplexing me: Would anyone have any idea of how they made these hats/headdress? http://gallery.euroweb.hu/art/c/cranach/lucas_e/6/2cuspin.jpg http://www.wga.hu/art/h/holbein/hans_y/1518/3meyer2.jpg http://www.museothyssen.org/images/obras/museo-thyssen-399-157-Grande.jpg http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_Of_Art/images/ep/images/ep12.115.L.jpg http://gallery.euroweb.hu/art/s/strigel/bernhard/freyberg.jpg I have a couple of vague theories, but was wondering if anyone here had figured out something that works, no sense re-inventing the wheel. :-) Sheridan *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely. Ogden Nash ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] lab coats
They were not mythical fourty years ago when my ex-husband was chief med-tech at a hospital lab. I made a half dozen of the miserable things but didn't have a pattern - just used an old one he had bought as a guide. He was very tall and thin and it was difficult to buy uniforms that actually fit him so I made his lab coats. Actually, they were rather spiffy looking, but he was a great looking guy and looked really good in white. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:12:32 -0700 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] lab coats I've seen in cartoons, and the like, pictures of an old style Laboratory coat (white, high collar, has a flap front that closes with buttons on the shoulder - tends to be slightly fitted). Does anyone know where I can find more information about these? Or even a pattern. Are they real or just a mythical garment? Susan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] embroidery for purses
You will have everyone on the list in a bidding war when you put them on eBay. I have wanted something of your work for ages. Let us know when to start bidding. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:51:49 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] embroidery for purses Hi, I have uploaded 4 different embroideries for purses so that you can have a look. They need to be ironed, shameless of me, but i just wanted to hurry along. http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/purseembroideries.htm Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
