RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?
At 02:19 05/07/2007, you wrote: more pictures http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Various_8.htm perhaps the Margo Anderson pattern might help as the hanging sleeve is a carry over from the late 1500s. De Thanks - I had all these that are relevant. I don't have time to get patterns - I have The Tudor Tailor and Hunnisett - I just wanted something different! Suzi -Original Message- http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/Sistersuzi/1600dress_9.jpg Thank you - there a couple there I had not come across before - I just wish they'd turn round do I could see the hanging sleeves better!! Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Was: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?; Now: Leaving the business?
Wait a second! Aside from all the interesting suggestions that people have made about sleeves, what's this about hanging up your scissors? Are you getting out of the historical costuming business? (I am sorry if you are - I have always admired your work!) If so, what is that made you decide to do so? And to the rest of the group, what is it you really dislike about costuming for pay or as a living? Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suzi Clarke Sent: July 04, 2007 7:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] 1620 dress images? I am making this dress for a customer, before I finally hang up my scissors, and wondered if there are any other images I can use for reference. Everything except the hanging sleeves is cut out, but the patterns I am using for them are a bit boring. However, I don't want to use the scallops in the original, so any other inspiration would be helpful. http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/Sistersuzi/1600dress_9.jpg Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?
At 10:39 05/07/2007, you wrote: Actually I was thinking you could have a look online at the pattern. The site doesn't allow you to go directly to the pattern so, http://www.margospatterns.com/ You want the Elizabethan Lady's Wardrobe (click on it) Then scroll down to the Eight sleeve styles to have a rough idea of the long sleeve. Thanks, but I have patterns for sleeves like those, from Hunnisett, and have actually made long sleeves like that for another garment. http://tinyurl.com/2gmgoq This is my current favourite - I like the split at the bottom edge. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: Was: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?; Now: Leaving the business?
At 11:14 05/07/2007, you wrote: Wait a second! Aside from all the interesting suggestions that people have made about sleeves, what's this about hanging up your scissors? Are you getting out of the historical costuming business? (I am sorry if you are - I have always admired your work!) If so, what is that made you decide to do so? I am old and tired and want to spend time doing something other than working for other people - I have so many projects that I have started over the years, that I would really like to finish. I have a room full of fabric bought to make family clothes one day - and come February next year, when I turn 65 that day will happen!! I have already slowed down this year, only making 3 or four interesting costumes, plus of course 5 outfits, including bride and bridesmaid, for the family wedding. I will take on something if it interests me, but am fed up of late nights and long working weeks - my own fault as I am useless at starting anything until the last minute! Thanks for the compliment, by the way. And to the rest of the group, what is it you really dislike about costuming for pay or as a living? I really, really dislike machining! I love all the customer liaison, designing and cutting the pattern, fitting the outfit, and all the hand finishing, but that bloomin' machine just bugs me! Unfortunately, the girl or two I had hoped would do some of that work for me, so I could continue on a smaller scale, wasn't as keen as she had seemed, so yes, I will be retiring from sewing for others - and I am really looking forward to it. My lectures, and occasional articles, and research and volunteering at the Museum of London will continue as long as people ask me! Sorry - a longer answer than I planned! Suzi Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suzi Clarke Sent: July 04, 2007 7:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] 1620 dress images? I am making this dress for a customer, before I finally hang up my scissors, and wondered if there are any other images I can use for reference. Everything except the hanging sleeves is cut out, but the patterns I am using for them are a bit boring. However, I don't want to use the scallops in the original, so any other inspiration would be helpful. http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/Sistersuzi/1600dress_9.jpg Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?
This is a fascinating gown. Do you know where the original picture is? I would love a really good copy. Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michelle Plumb Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:39 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images? http://www.tudor-portraits.com/DianaCecil.jpg I've seen plenty of slashing on sleeves, but this is the first picture I've ever seen with slashing on the skirt! Michelle No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.0/886 - Release Date: 7/4/2007 1:40 PM ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: Was: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?; Now: Leaving the business?
I am old and tired You are NOT old!! want to spend time doing something other than working for other people - I have so many projects that I have started over the years, This I can relate to. I will take on something if it interests me, That's the best way to do projects. I am useless at starting anything until the last minute! Been there, too :( My lectures, and occasional articles, and research and volunteering at the Museum of London will continue as long as people ask me! That will keep you busy. Don't forget visiting with friends! Anne No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.0/886 - Release Date: 7/4/2007 1:40 PM ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?
At 19:36 05/07/2007, you wrote: This is a fascinating gown. Do you know where the original picture is? I would love a really good copy. This is now at Kenwood House, apparently, in North London. It was formerly at the Ranger's House in Blackheath, and I thought was part of the Iveagh Bequest. However, I understand it is actually part of the Suffolk Collection of mostly Jacobean portraits. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?
I have seen it before, and i still think its overdone, and if you really want my oppinion, i dont like the slashing at all, what a waist of beautifull brocade... Sorry :-( I know it was very fashionable.still Bjarne - Original Message - From: Anne Moeller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 8:36 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images? This is a fascinating gown. Do you know where the original picture is? I would love a really good copy. Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michelle Plumb Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:39 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images? http://www.tudor-portraits.com/DianaCecil.jpg I've seen plenty of slashing on sleeves, but this is the first picture I've ever seen with slashing on the skirt! Michelle No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.0/886 - Release Date: 7/4/2007 1:40 PM ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?
Nice. Someone may have already suggested it but how about some small lace along the edge as an option? metallic? Or combine the split and gold lace? De whose brain this week seems to be in first gear and slips into neutral periodically. -Original Message- Thanks, but I have patterns for sleeves like those, from Hunnisett, and have actually made long sleeves like that for another garment. http://tinyurl.com/2gmgoq This is my current favourite - I like the split at the bottom edge. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?
At 21:34 05/07/2007, you wrote: Nice. Someone may have already suggested it but how about some small lace along the edge as an option? metallic? Or combine the split and gold lace? I have some gold/crimson/blue brocade left from the underskirt which will edge inside the sleeve, plus whatever is left of the 50 metres of gold braid/lace which I am sewing to the crimson/blue shot taffeta of the skirt, bodice and sleeves - this will shine, you can be sure of that!! De whose brain this week seems to be in first gear and slips into neutral periodically. -Original Message- Thanks, but I have patterns for sleeves like those, from Hunnisett, and have actually made long sleeves like that for another garment. http://tinyurl.com/2gmgoq This is my current favourite - I like the split at the bottom edge. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 1620 dress images?
I am making this dress for a customer, before I finally hang up my scissors, and wondered if there are any other images I can use for reference. Everything except the hanging sleeves is cut out, but the patterns I am using for them are a bit boring. However, I don't want to use the scallops in the original, so any other inspiration would be helpful. http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/Sistersuzi/1600dress_9.jpg Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?
Bohemia http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1610_2.shtml spain http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1606_1.shtml english http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/161x_6.shtml baveria http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1613_1.shtml france http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/161x_4.shtml denmark http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1623_3.shtml german http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1623_1.shtml -Original Message- http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/Sistersuzi/1600dress_9.jpg Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?
At 21:21 04/07/2007, you wrote: Bohemia http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1610_2.shtml spain http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1606_1.shtml english http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/161x_6.shtml baveria http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1613_1.shtml france http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/161x_4.shtml denmark http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1623_3.shtml german http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1623_1.shtml -Original Message- http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/Sistersuzi/1600dress_9.jpg Thank you - there a couple there I had not come across before - I just wish they'd turn round do I could see the hanging sleeves better!! Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?
more pictures http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Various_8.htm perhaps the Margo Anderson pattern might help as the hanging sleeve is a carry over from the late 1500s. De -Original Message- http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/Sistersuzi/1600dress_9.jpg Thank you - there a couple there I had not come across before - I just wish they'd turn round do I could see the hanging sleeves better!! Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?
http://www.tudor-portraits.com/DianaCecil.jpg I've seen plenty of slashing on sleeves, but this is the first picture I've ever seen with slashing on the skirt! Michelle ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?
Given how odd it looks, I'm not surprised! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michelle Plumb Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 6:39 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images? http://www.tudor-portraits.com/DianaCecil.jpg I've seen plenty of slashing on sleeves, but this is the first picture I've ever seen with slashing on the skirt! Michelle ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?
In Arnold's POF there is at least one of the loose gowns from the later period that has slashing on the whole of the gown, and by the way the pattern/slashings are she thought that the gown had been remade to the current state. alex On 7/4/07, Sharon Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given how odd it looks, I'm not surprised! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michelle Plumb Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 6:39 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images? http://www.tudor-portraits.com/DianaCecil.jpg I've seen plenty of slashing on sleeves, but this is the first picture I've ever seen with slashing on the skirt! Michelle __ -- I can handle anything that life throws at me. I may not be able to handle it well, or correctly, or gracefully, or with finesse, or expediently -- but I will handle it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
