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It just doesn't seem possible for it to be 10 years! If I had to guess how long it had been, I'd have guessed 5 or 6. But you just don't forget it when you see What color is Dead Spaniard? Pam Dotson - Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I've also heard of goose-turd green in its French equivalent, merde d'oie (a dark olive-green, for those that don't know). Actually, we usually hear caca d'oie (same thing). I've never heard it used with merde. Not heard often, but certainly still in use. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Congratulations, Penny! I didn't fall out of my chair because I had every confidence you'd succeed with the project. I remember well when you started this project and the on-going conversations via the list thereafter. You were into it so deeply and enthusiastically that I didn't work on my own studies each night until after I'd read the entries. (Shame on me!) WOW! Keep up the good work, please. Meg - Original Message - From: Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: h-costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:31 AM Subject: [h-cost] Celebration! The old-timers on the list, just fell of their chairs... yes, it really has been ten years. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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A great idea, Penny. Now, just to complicate your life further, have you thought about linking the name of the colour to an actual colour sample eg using the Pantone colour charts? ;-P So that people can see what the colour is, as opposed to being just a name and date/s, albeit some very evocative ( provocative? Dead Spaniard!!!? ) names. http://www.pantone.com/ http://www.colorguides.net/?referrer=Adwords Joannah --- Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 05:31:28 -0400 To: h-costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Celebration! YIPPEE 10 years of work is finally online!!! My Fashion Color Database, http://www.fcdatabase.com/ is live online! The old-timers on the list, just fell of their chairs... yes, it really has been ten years. Ten years ago on h-costume (I was a student in college) and asked a question, What color is Dead Spaniard? It was one of my first messages to h-costume. (Lurkers see what you can get into from just asking one question!) I was doing research for a costume history paper and thought it was the funniest name for a color. We had a good laugh about color names thread on the list. This one question lead me on the search of my life... to document fashion color names, their usage, description/definition, and trends. My paper was supposed to be 4 pages long... it ended up 30 pages long. Between that time and 1998, I had documented about 4,000 names. I searched non-stop on the names. Then my computer crashed and I lost everything in the database but my original college research. My heart was broken. So I switched my focus to building up our online Library. I picked back up my color research as I worked on the Library. Today, there is almost 1500 entries in the database, but they are online now! H-costume gets the first look at the Fashion Color Database (FCD)... Since the h-costume old-timers inspired me to search harder and to dust myself off after my computer crashed. The FCD is part of our subscription area of our Library. I am going to leave the database password FREE until Sunday morning, so you all can see it. Please remember that there are some links to the Library website in the color name *details* comment area. Those links are still password protected. You will know when you hit them a gray password box will popup. Just hit cancel and click you back button. I still have a couple of glitches that I am working on... the Articles and Bibliography links from the menu are not live yet. I do suggest that everyone look over the FAQ section before doing searches in the database. The database can be picky. Make sure to read the parts about how-to-do a search. There is a Color Name Index, that provides an alphabetical listing of the color names in the database. Beside each name is a date(s). That is the year(s) of usage or documentation for that color name. The Index area will always be in the free area of the site. I hope you all enjoy the FCD! I am so thrilled to finally have the it online!!! Penny E. Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery, www.costumegallery.com Costume Classroom, www.costumeclassroom.com Costume Research Library, www.costumelibrary.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Sluggy.Net: The Sluggy Freelance Community! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. This is FANTASTIC!!! Oh, BTW, can I be added to the mailing list for The Cut for when it's ready to make the rounds. I HOPE we'll be able to purchase it and the Runway show on DVD one of these days. Thank you again Penny :) Chris G. Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YIPPEE 10 years of work is finally online!!! My Fashion Color Database, http://www.fcdatabase.com/ is live online! The old-timers on the list, just fell of their chairs... yes, it really has been ten years. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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SNIP Oh, BTW, can I be added to the mailing list for The Cut for when it's ready to make the rounds. I HOPE we'll be able to purchase it and the Runway show on DVD one of these days. Is this the same Chris who got the Runway tapes? LOL! My husband and I have been making fashion critiques for the INXS Rock Star reality shows. The one lady that dresses and looks like Blondie, now looks like Madonna (or is her name Esther now?) Penny E. Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery, www.costumegallery.com Costume Classroom, www.costumeclassroom.com Costume Research Library, www.costumelibrary.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I will get to answering your questions later tonight. I haven't been to sleep since 4 yesterday. Getting son #5 ready for college this morning... so I am very lacking in sleep. I checked into several options about publishing this information. I will let you all now what I found out when I return later tonight or early in the morning Thursday. BTW, Gooseturd is in the database. My favorite color are when London and Pairs were battling over who was the fashion capital of Europe. They made bad fashion color names about the other's city. One of the names is in the L color index under London. Another name lost in my old database, I think the name was Nun's Belly... who saw a Nun's Belly to know what color it was??? Good night... at 11:39 am. Penny E. Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery, www.costumegallery.com Costume Classroom, www.costumeclassroom.com Costume Research Library, www.costumelibrary.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Suzi Clarke wrote: Congratulations - an epic project indeed. I just hope that when I start looking I will find *my* favourite - Goose-turd green!! Although some of these names are ... odd, at least they're descriptive. I know exactly what color goose turds are. As compared to modern catalog descriptions. Storm as a color name, for example. Congrats, Penny! -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent The opiate of this massive is a book. -- John Theophilous ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Penny: Paris and London were always at each other(and still are--witness the last French salvo demeaning English cuisine just before London was awarding the 2012 Olympic Games)over who had the best culture, so all the name-calling in colors is great fun to us reading them today. And the French came up with some unlovely names(of course they sound tres elegante en francaise)for fad colors on their own. I haven't checked your database yet, but I'm sure caca Dauphin is there--it was a fad color devised and named when Marie Antoinette finally gave birth to a male heir. The color was meant as a compliment since the French throne was an exclusive boy's club by law so the birth of a male heir was a very big deal Caca Dauphin was apparently a greenish brown modeled after the color of a newborn's excreatment from the neither end(to put it politely). The French throne being a no women need apply as ruler and the Queen Consort was supposed to keep a low profile and kick out male heirs), only a mistresse en titre(you got to see Le Roi a lot more than royal wifey and have a big influence on court life and royal policy had any real power and more acceptable to the French to boot since mistress to the King was French, and not foreign-born as was royal wifey). It was was probably why Marie Antoinette was so unpopular as Queen Consort as time went on. It had been generations since a French Queen had been attractive, fashionable, outgoing, and apparently an influence on royal policy. And she wasn't producing male heirs one after the other. Not her fault, but the French just couldn't understand a King that was faithful to his wife as Louis XVI. And a king that wasn't that interested in sex was something nearly impossible at the time, especially to the French, who were very used to Kings bedhopping--it was almost expected. Cindy Abel ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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So, what colour IS a dead Spaniard? -C. This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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A yellowish grey IIRC. Or maybe a greenish-grey. I was always told to think of what a Spaniard would look like washed up on the shore after a shipwreck... Cheers, Danielle At 10:01 AM 8/18/2005 +1000, you wrote: So, what colour IS a dead Spaniard? -C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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That would be wonderful. The names are interesting, but what color IS Dead Spaniard? Or Goose Turd...? Inquiring minds want to know G Julie -Original Message- A great idea, Penny. Now, just to complicate your life further, have you thought about linking the name of the colour to an actual colour sample eg using the Pantone colour charts? ;-P So that people can see what the colour is, as opposed to being just a name and date/s, albeit some very evocative ( provocative? Dead Spaniard!!!? ) names. http://www.pantone.com/ http://www.colorguides.net/?referrer=Adwords Joannah ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
