Re: [h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?

2012-06-25 Thread Bambi TBNL
First of all soundslike the fabric stretched.under the stress of getting so 
cleft? It happens. Second, most bond stuff in my experience hast to be somewhat 
over fixed with no ese and mat be measuring up to four inches less around than 
the body it is going to fit. The two sampled of this in rely life are cosettles 
and tight jeans. and 
-Original Message-
Date: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:10:51 pm
To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Dang!  WTH Happened?

To make it fit better, maybe put in some loops made of piping at the back
(or front, depending on the look she wants) and then a lace, so she can
tighten or loosen it to fit.
Sharon C.

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Julie Tamura
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 4:06 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?

I just finished a 50's sundress for my daughter.  It has a fitted boned
bodice with a natural waist and a full skirt.  I spent a lot of time fitting
the bodice snugly to her.  After one wearing she can stick her hand down the
bodice and the straps are falling down her arms. It's 100% quilting cotton.
It was pretortured and we've washed  dried it again; it's still too large.
I'll rewash  dry it and then I'll have to take it in. I'm frustrated. Any
idea what could have happened? The bodice is even lined.
Julie
 


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Re: [h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?

2012-06-25 Thread annbwass
This discussion just shed some light on a vintage dress I have. It is a 1950s 
cotton sundress with a button-on halter strap. The bodice has elastic shirred 
side panels. I now realize that is not just a design thing, but a fit thing--it 
allows the bodice to adjust. But not something you can do to retrofit this 
dress, I'm afraid.


Ann Wass



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From: Julie Tamura jtkn...@jtknits.cts.com
To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 24, 2012 7:07 pm
Subject: [h-cost] Dang!  WTH Happened?


I just finished a 50's sundress for my daughter.  It has a fitted boned
bodice with a natural waist and a full skirt.  I spent a lot of time fitting
the bodice snugly to her.  After one wearing she can stick her hand down the
bodice and the straps are falling down her arms. It's 100% quilting cotton.
It was pretortured and we've washed  dried it again; it's still too large.
I'll rewash  dry it and then I'll have to take it in. I'm frustrated. Any
idea what could have happened? The bodice is even lined.
Julie
 


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[h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?

2012-06-25 Thread Julie
This project was intended to teach me about fitting on someone else since I've 
gotten discouraged trying to fit myself.  Hard to see your own back...

Daughter *wishes* she lost that much weight G.  And it was tried on AFTER 
being washed  dried.

So should this have been fit skin tight or less?  Daughter kept saying it was 
too loose and I kept saying it wasn't a corset.  How do you decide how tight is 
too tight and just what is wearing ease?
Julie


  I just finished a 50's sundress for my daughter.  It has a fitted boned
  bodice with a natural waist and a full skirt.  I spent a lot of time fitting
  the bodice snugly to her.  After one wearing she can stick her hand down the
  bodice and the straps are falling down her arms. It's 100% quilting cotton.
  It was pretortured and we've washed  dried it again; it's still too large.
  I'll rewash  dry it and then I'll have to take it in. I'm frustrated. Any
  idea what could have happened? The bodice is even lined.
 
 Here's what occurred to me first.
 
 1) Could your daughter have lost enough weight to affect the fit? 
 Alternatively, does she tend to have water retention issues before her 
 menstrual periods?  If so, the difference between her pre-period and 
 post-period torso measurements might be causing the problem.
 
 2) Cotton garments are their tightest right after a wash and loosen up 
 in wear (as anyone who wears cotton denim jeans can attest).  Sometimes 
 they can loosen up quite a bit.  If that's the problem with your fabric, 
 you may just need to make the bodice not just snug, but actually tight, 
 to get the desired post-wash post-wearing fit.
 Cathy Raymond

 First of all soundslike the fabric stretched.under the stress of getting so 
 cleft? It happens. Second, most bond stuff in my experience hast to be 
 somewhat over fixed with no ese and mat be measuring up to four inches less 
 around than the body it is going to fit. The two sampled of this in rely 
 life are cosettles and tight jeans. and 

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Re: [h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?

2012-06-25 Thread Hope Greenberg


Butterick defines it this way for their patterns:
http://butterick.mccall.com/ease-chart-pages-456.php

I've always seen the rule of thumb as 1-2 inches above measurement: skin 
tight

...and so one


Julie wrote:

  How do you decide how tight is too tight and just what is wearing ease?
Julie


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Re: [h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?

2012-06-25 Thread Sharon Collier
If you sewed horizontal channels in the back and added elastic running from
the side seam to the back opening, it might work.
Sharon C.

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:25 AM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?

This discussion just shed some light on a vintage dress I have. It is a
1950s cotton sundress with a button-on halter strap. The bodice has elastic
shirred side panels. I now realize that is not just a design thing, but a
fit thing--it allows the bodice to adjust. But not something you can do to
retrofit this dress, I'm afraid.


Ann Wass



-Original Message-
From: Julie Tamura jtkn...@jtknits.cts.com
To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 24, 2012 7:07 pm
Subject: [h-cost] Dang!  WTH Happened?


I just finished a 50's sundress for my daughter.  It has a fitted boned
bodice with a natural waist and a full skirt.  I spent a lot of time fitting
the bodice snugly to her.  After one wearing she can stick her hand down the
bodice and the straps are falling down her arms. It's 100% quilting cotton.
It was pretortured and we've washed  dried it again; it's still too large.
I'll rewash  dry it and then I'll have to take it in. I'm frustrated. Any
idea what could have happened? The bodice is even lined.
Julie
 


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Re: [h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?

2012-06-25 Thread Sharon Collier
Can you put in lacing at the back? Can you put in horizontal channels and
elastic to take it in? (fiddly bit sewing, but could work).
Sharon C.

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Julie
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 12:15 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?

This project was intended to teach me about fitting on someone else since
I've gotten discouraged trying to fit myself.  Hard to see your own back...

Daughter *wishes* she lost that much weight G.  And it was tried on AFTER
being washed  dried.

So should this have been fit skin tight or less?  Daughter kept saying it
was too loose and I kept saying it wasn't a corset.  How do you decide how
tight is too tight and just what is wearing ease?
Julie


  I just finished a 50's sundress for my daughter.  It has a fitted 
  boned bodice with a natural waist and a full skirt.  I spent a lot 
  of time fitting the bodice snugly to her.  After one wearing she can 
  stick her hand down the bodice and the straps are falling down her arms.
It's 100% quilting cotton.
  It was pretortured and we've washed  dried it again; it's still too
large.
  I'll rewash  dry it and then I'll have to take it in. I'm 
  frustrated. Any idea what could have happened? The bodice is even lined.
 
 Here's what occurred to me first.
 
 1) Could your daughter have lost enough weight to affect the fit? 
 Alternatively, does she tend to have water retention issues before her 
 menstrual periods?  If so, the difference between her pre-period and 
 post-period torso measurements might be causing the problem.
 
 2) Cotton garments are their tightest right after a wash and loosen up 
 in wear (as anyone who wears cotton denim jeans can attest).  
 Sometimes they can loosen up quite a bit.  If that's the problem with 
 your fabric, you may just need to make the bodice not just snug, but 
 actually tight, to get the desired post-wash post-wearing fit.
 Cathy Raymond

 First of all soundslike the fabric stretched.under the stress of 
 getting so cleft? It happens. Second, most bond stuff in my 
 experience hast to be somewhat over fixed with no ese and mat be 
 measuring up to four inches less around than the body it is going to 
 fit. The two sampled of this in rely life are cosettles and tight 
 jeans. and

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[h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?

2012-06-24 Thread Julie Tamura
I just finished a 50's sundress for my daughter.  It has a fitted boned
bodice with a natural waist and a full skirt.  I spent a lot of time fitting
the bodice snugly to her.  After one wearing she can stick her hand down the
bodice and the straps are falling down her arms. It's 100% quilting cotton.
It was pretortured and we've washed  dried it again; it's still too large.
I'll rewash  dry it and then I'll have to take it in. I'm frustrated. Any
idea what could have happened? The bodice is even lined.
Julie
 


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Re: [h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?

2012-06-24 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond

On 06/24/2012 07:06 PM, Julie Tamura wrote:

I just finished a 50's sundress for my daughter.  It has a fitted boned
bodice with a natural waist and a full skirt.  I spent a lot of time fitting
the bodice snugly to her.  After one wearing she can stick her hand down the
bodice and the straps are falling down her arms. It's 100% quilting cotton.
It was pretortured and we've washed  dried it again; it's still too large.
I'll rewash  dry it and then I'll have to take it in. I'm frustrated. Any
idea what could have happened? The bodice is even lined.


Here's what occurred to me first.

1) Could your daughter have lost enough weight to affect the fit? 
Alternatively, does she tend to have water retention issues before her 
menstrual periods?  If so, the difference between her pre-period and 
post-period torso measurements might be causing the problem.


2) Cotton garments are their tightest right after a wash and loosen up 
in wear (as anyone who wears cotton denim jeans can attest).  Sometimes 
they can loosen up quite a bit.  If that's the problem with your fabric, 
you may just need to make the bodice not just snug, but actually tight, 
to get the desired post-wash post-wearing fit.


Just some random thoughts.  I hope they help.


--
Cathy Raymond
ca...@thyrsus.com
(610) 805-9542

Remember that time is money.
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Re: [h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?

2012-06-24 Thread Sharon Collier
To make it fit better, maybe put in some loops made of piping at the back
(or front, depending on the look she wants) and then a lace, so she can
tighten or loosen it to fit.
Sharon C.

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Julie Tamura
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 4:06 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?

I just finished a 50's sundress for my daughter.  It has a fitted boned
bodice with a natural waist and a full skirt.  I spent a lot of time fitting
the bodice snugly to her.  After one wearing she can stick her hand down the
bodice and the straps are falling down her arms. It's 100% quilting cotton.
It was pretortured and we've washed  dried it again; it's still too large.
I'll rewash  dry it and then I'll have to take it in. I'm frustrated. Any
idea what could have happened? The bodice is even lined.
Julie
 


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