RE: [h-cost] RE: question re: floss silks for embroidery
You didn't see it in the library because I'd had to consult it recently and it was up by the computer. Now I have a new scanner I'm going to see if I can scan it in without breaking the binding and have my very own CD/DVD copy. I would expect that it would also manage to duplicate itself a few times and if I left those dups lying around they might take it into their little bitty byte minds to wander Montanawards! Regina Re: [h-cost] RE: question re: floss silks for embroidery Dang! Can't believe I missed seeing that in your library. Are you *sure* you don't want to adopt me? bats eyelashes winsomely I cook, I clean cat boxes, I even do windows ;o) If you'll put up with me, I'll definitely have to come visit again, when there's not so much going on! --Sue in Montana, where it's sunny but pretty cold! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] RE: question re: floss silks for embroidery
Quoting Wanda Pease [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You didn't see it in the library because I'd had to consult it recently and it was up by the computer. Now I have a new scanner I'm going to see if I can scan it in without breaking the binding and have my very own CD/DVD copy. I would expect that it would also manage to duplicate itself a few times and if I left those dups lying around they might take it into their little bitty byte minds to wander Montanawards! LOL. I've got a lot of the plates scanned, but not nearly all of them! susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] RE: question re: floss silks for embroidery
Well, if you're looking for the period 800-1600, certainly I would highly recommend the tome written by Schuette and someone or other (memory fails me) called The Art of Embroidery. You can get it through inter-library loan, although I did so often I finally broke down and spent an entire year's book budget on my own copy. It is considered a rare book and you will likely have to use it in-house. It is also considered an extremely well-researched and scholarly book, with detailed provenance and technical background which is still considered accurate. There are examples in the book dating to ancient China and Persia, but for your purposes there are some exquisite examples of Opus Anglicanum (mantle of St. Cuthbert, c. 800AD to the peerless Burgundian Vestments, c. 16th century), all of which not only use copious amounts of silk thread, but gold, my own personal passion. Interesting, btw, you're teaching a class on this. I give several lectures, as well as teach several classes, on various aspects of historical embroidery, one of which is a history of embroidery. Regards, Lorina Five Rivers Chapmanry purveyors of historical sewing patterns, quality hand-crafted cooperage, re-enactor and embroidery supplies, and more. 519-799-5577 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.5rivers.org ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE: question re: floss silks for embroidery
At 10:07 19/12/2006, you wrote: Well, if you're looking for the period 800-1600, certainly I would highly recommend the tome written by Schuette and someone or other (memory fails me) called The Art of Embroidery. You can get it through inter-library loan, although I did so often I finally broke down and spent an entire year's book budget on my own copy. It is considered a rare book and you will likely have to use it in-house. It is also considered an extremely well-researched and scholarly book, with detailed provenance and technical background which is still considered accurate. There are examples in the book dating to ancient China and Persia, but for your purposes there are some exquisite examples of Opus Anglicanum (mantle of St. Cuthbert, c. 800AD to the peerless Burgundian Vestments, c. 16th century), all of which not only use copious amounts of silk thread, but gold, my own personal passion. Interesting, btw, you're teaching a class on this. I give several lectures, as well as teach several classes, on various aspects of historical embroidery, one of which is a history of embroidery. Or you buy a much cheaper, but very useful small book by a former curator of the Museum of London, called Embroiderers which also has information about Opus Anglicorum. http://www.alibris.com/search/books/author/Staniland,%20Kay Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE: question re: floss silks for embroidery
Or you buy a much cheaper, but very useful small book by a former curator of the Museum of London, called Embroiderers which also has information about Opus Anglicorum. http://www.alibris.com/search/books/author/Staniland,%20Kay Suzi Have it. Staniland's great. Think my local library carries Shuette. Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE: question re: floss silks for embroidery/Staniland
At 15:15 19/12/2006, you wrote: Or you buy a much cheaper, but very useful small book by a former curator of the Museum of London, called Embroiderers which also has information about Opus Anglicorum. http://www.alibris.com/search/books/author/Staniland,%20Kay Suzi Have it. Staniland's great. Think my local library carries Shuette. She'll be pleased to hear you are a fan - she currently has a broken thumb and is feeling very under the weather! Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE: question re: floss silks for embroidery/Staniland
She'll be pleased to hear you are a fan - she currently has a broken thumb and is feeling very under the weather! Suzi Major bummer, esp. for someone so into fiber arts! Wish her speedy healing for me. Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: question re: floss silks for embroidery
Arlys, I can happily confirm they go back *at least* as far as the sixteenth century in Sicily, having had first hand experience with stranded floss silks in use. They sewed garments and made lace with them, in my experience. I can even help you find some to experiment with. ;-) The store exists, but is not ready yet for orders. email me off list if you are interested. Kathy Page ~New Stranded Floss Embroidery Silk Enabler~ www.outoftheattic.biz/store Might even delve into spiffy cambric linens, as well one day soon... Ermine, a lion rampant tail nowed gules charged on the shoulder with a rose Or barbed, seeded, slipped and leaved vert (Fieldless) On a rose Or barbed vert a lion's head erased gules. It’s never too late to be who you might have been. -George Eliot Tosach eólais imchomarc. - Questioning is the beginning of knowledge. http://www.sengoidelc.com/node/131 Hi all. I'm researching embroidery materials and keep bumping into references that mention floss silks. Might anyone know how early these were used and/or have some possible sources they could point me to? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: question re: floss silks for embroidery
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:29:09 -0800 (PST) Kathy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Arlys, I can happily confirm they go back *at least* as far as the sixteenth century in Sicily, having had first hand experience with stranded floss silks in use. They sewed garments and made lace with them, in my experience. Very nice! They also appear in the Hardwick (Elizabeth of Shrewsbury) inventories, as polychrome floss silks used for cushion covers (_Elizabethan Treasures the Hardwick Hall Embroideries by Santina Levey, pg 47_). I can even help you find some to experiment with. ;-) The store exists, but is not ready yet for orders. email me off list if you are interested. thank you. I've been working in floss silk for years--it's loverly stuff for a lot of things, incl. blackwork. I'm trying to trace its history a bit. :-) Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
