Re: [h-cost] Yellow power tie?
Kate, I graduated college in 84 recall being a bit amused amazed that all the office guys were wearing pink. Yup. Pink shirt or pink shirt white collar cuffs. Either way, accessorize with a pinker tie. Med grey suit. I'm remembering Wash DC/ Beltway Bandit office wear. Straight guys, sales guys, IT guys, corner office guys all of 'em in pink. After that, moved to Silicon Valley where most arent sure what a tie is. As for your show, pink might give a different msg given the AIDS crisis context of the show. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com Subject: I realize it's now passe, but I'm doing a production of Angels in America that takes place in 1985-86. Kate ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Yellow power tie?
I realize it's now passe, but I'm doing a production of Angels in America that takes place in 1985-86. Kate -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of cc2010m...@cs.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:28 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Yellow power tie? The Yellow Power Tie is a bit passe, at this point. I am not sure what the power color is these days. I have noticed that strongly colored dress shirts are in vogue. And I always keep an eye open for those daring few who know the Way of the Bow Tie. Henry W. Osier Chairman Costume-Con 28 www.cc28.org ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Yellow power tie?
In a message dated 2/18/2009 7:08:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cc2010m...@cs.com writes: I am not sure what the power color is these days. *** When I was in prep school (1971-75) and had to wear a coat and tie to class, the red diagonal striped tie was ubiquitous. Look at Congressstill is. Always will be. Navy blazer, grey, then in warmer weather, khaki pants, white or pastel shirt, striped tie.the uniform. BTWI neverNEVER wear any of those items today and never will. Did my time. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Yellow power tie?
Kate Pinner wrote: I realize it's now passe, but I'm doing a production of Angels in America that takes place in 1985-86. That's too early for yellow. In the mid/late 80's the power tie was red, either a solid red or the striped one, occasionally a tiny print. I went to work in the bank district in Boston in 87, and anyone who was anyone wore a black suit with a red tie. Women wore brightly printed power scarves. I still have mine in the closet. I don't think yellow came in until the 90's. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Yellow power tie?
In a message dated 2/19/2009 10:08:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, pinn...@mccc.edu writes: that takes place in 1985-86. * Dark (black or dark grey) blazers with little flecks of color in the fabric immediately come to mind for that period. I wonder why? :-P Pleated baggy pants too. Ties were narrower too. It's strange doing a period you lived though, isn't it? **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Yellow power tie?
Kate Pinner wrote: I realize it's now passe, but I'm doing a production of Angels in America that takes place in 1985-86. That's too early for yellow. In the mid/late 80's the power tie was red, either a solid red or the striped one, occasionally a tiny print. I went to work in the bank district in Boston in 87, and anyone who was anyone wore a black suit with a red tie. Women wore brightly printed power scarves. I still have mine in the closet. I don't think yellow came in until the 90's. Dawn I don't remember the specific years, either, but it was the red power tie and the yellow sincere tie. -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Yellow power tie?
A quick Google turns up that the yellow power tie was 1980s, and a 1987 article alluding to the fact that they were already on the way out--so sounds mid-80s to me.? (Sorry I don't remember from personal experience--my husband was in the military in those years so had no choice of tie color!) Ann Wass -Original Message- From: aqua...@patriot.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:31 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Yellow power tie? Kate Pinner wrote: I realize it's now passe, but I'm doing a production of Angels in America that takes place in 1985-86. That's too early for yellow. In the mid/late 80's the power tie was red, either a solid red or the striped one, occasionally a tiny print. I went to work in the bank district in Boston in 87, and anyone who was anyone wore a black suit with a red tie. Women wore brightly printed power scarves. I still have mine in the closet. I don't think yellow came in until the 90's. Dawn I don't remember the specific years, either, but it was the red power tie and the yellow sincere tie. -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Yellow power tie?
Dawn wrote: Kate Pinner wrote: I realize it's now passe, but I'm doing a production of Angels in America that takes place in 1985-86. That's too early for yellow. In the mid/late 80's the power tie was red, either a solid red or the striped one, occasionally a tiny print. I went to work in the bank district in Boston in 87, and anyone who was anyone wore a black suit with a red tie. Women wore brightly printed power scarves. I still have mine in the closet. I don't think yellow came in until the 90's. In my experience, '80s is exactly right. I worked in an educational association office in Washington in 1984-88, and I remember the day one of our VPs first showed up in a yellow tie. Everyone made good-natured jokes about how cutting-edge it was and how he'd picked up on the new fad of the lawyerly/lobbying types in the neighborhood. After that, I seemed to see them everywhere. BTW, the yellow ties weren't very bright, at least not the ones I saw. They were a sort of dull yellow background with an all-over pattern of tiny dots or paisley shapes (I think the pattern is called pine in tie lingo). I remember it seemed the ugliest thing I'd ever seen, but after a while I got used to it. I left that office in 1988, so this had to have occurred by then. I returned in 1990 and went to work in a government office. My boss there NEVER wore yellow ties, and I don't remember any from that time at all. The way to answer this, of course, would be to hit a library that still has hardcopy magazine collections. Look over back issues Time and Newsweek to see pix of the power brokers, and you should run into the period of Yellow Ties Everywhere. Another option is a men's fashion magazine like GQ, but I wonder if this was more of an office thing done in real-life practice, rather than something that the fashion houses promoted. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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aqua...@patriot.net wrote: I don't remember the specific years, either, but it was the red power tie and the yellow sincere tie. Yes! That was it! Even when it was everywhere, yellow was not the power tie. I'd forgotten it was supposed to be sincere, but that's indeed the word that was used. And here's that nasty yellow color: http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-BROOKS-BROTHERS-TIE-VINTAGE-YELLOW-PAISLEY_W0QQitemZ320340819887 --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Yellow power tie?
Yes! That was it! Even when it was everywhere, yellow was not the power tie. I'd forgotten it was supposed to be sincere, but that's indeed the word that was used.? ? Oh, I definitely remember the yellow ties being called power ties, too, though--I just didn't remember quite when that was. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Robin Netherton ro...@netherton.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 1:38 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Yellow power tie? aqua...@patriot.net wrote:? ? I don't remember the specific years, either, but it was the red? power tie and the yellow sincere tie.? ? Yes! That was it! Even when it was everywhere, yellow was not the power tie. I'd forgotten it was supposed to be sincere, but that's indeed the word that was used.? ? And here's that nasty yellow color:? http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-BROOKS-BROTHERS-TIE-VINTAGE-YELLOW-PAISLEY_W0QQitemZ320340819887? ? --Robin? ? ___? h-costume mailing list? h-cost...@mail.indra.com? http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Yellow power tie?
Looks like what I call my amoeba tie, -C. Yes! That was it! Even when it was everywhere, yellow was not the power tie. And here's that nasty yellow color: http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-BROOKS-BROTHERS-TIE-VINTAGE-YELLOW- PAISLEY_W0QQitemZ320340819887 This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Yellow power tie?
Power tie is part of the power dress code (dark suit, white shirt, dark shoes with laces, sensible jewelry, etc.). The power dress tie has diagonal stripes in an upward direction as per a favourable graph. Colour was not as important as the strength and blending of the colours. Bolder colours came along in the 1980s. The exact when for yellow, red or any other colour may be mappable according to what some prominent person wore on a specific occasion. As a general rule, more successful times had bolder colours so you may be looking around 1985-86, just before the financial bust, -C (who must still be living in the mid-80s). This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Yellow power tie?
Around the time of Reagan's presidency. Sometime in the 80s and I think there's something of a red power tie as well. The folktale to it is that Reagan invented it where another says the a news reporter wore bold ties to get Reagan's attention and it worked. After a while Reagan started wearing the bold ties. De -Original Message- When did the yellow power tie come into vogue for yuppie brokers/lawyers/etc? Kate ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume