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Never was a goth myself, but had lots of goth friends (and still have a few!).
Most of them wouldn't be caught dead making their own clothes - adapting
maybe, but not actually making.
Here in Northern California there were and are groups and mailing
lists for Goths who
Thanks Debs. I was about to say, maybe it's a difference between US and
UK - there is so much less sewing done here overall. I still boggle at
the memory of finding fabric by the yard in WalMart in Connecticut!
Adapting and decorating I can believe, making accessories from scratch,
but for mo
Never was a goth myself, but had lots of goth friends (and still have a
few!). Most of them wouldn't be caught dead making their own clothes -
adapting
maybe, but not actually making.
There was a healthy band of good cheap 'alternative' clothing shops in
Newcastle and the surrounding area, a
Well most Goths are also pretty self sufficent. You do have some that do
cookie cutter Goth and buy everything at Lip Service and Hot Topic but they
are IMHO the minority. Most Goths are working crappy jobs because of one
reason or another and so can't afford to pay the prices that RTW Goth
clo
It's absolutely true that mail order "took off" in the US when the
postal system was improved in, if I recall correctly, the 1870s. For
that matter, mail order of a sort has been around for as long as people
have traveled. Before efficient national postal systems, people
routinely asked frien
Jean said,
Somehow I can't imagine most Goths, as I know them, sitting down
doing anything as domesticated and constructive as making clothes.
That's the thing about costume groups, though. When people are
dressed up at an elegant event, the illusion is that they had an army
of seamstr
Somehow I can't imagine most Goths, as I know them, sitting down doing
anything as domesticated and constructive as making clothes. Making
jewellery, possibly embellishing clothes, yes, but actual dressmaking?
You can build up a pretty wide wardrobe by just buying things that are
available in
life in general is probably the starting point.
Kathleen
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From: "Dawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] fiber arts and making vs buying c
Good question. This brings to mind the question of whether or not a
recreation of, say, a Worth gown is art. Certainly it was art the
first time, but is what we're doing also art?
I'm not sure it was even art the first time. Worth actually had a
fairly large concern and churned out numb
I would call that wearable art too. Then there are cross-over folks
like Arlene Fisch who, in the 1970s, was making knitted silver wire
jewelry. And the chain-mail-bikini crowd - wearable, but is it art?
Dunno. There's a sense in which, the first time someone makes it, it's
art; but if
BTW, some jewelry is like wearable sculpture, and is made of metal,
stone, etc.
True, and there is also fiber jewelry.
I would call that wearable art too. Then there are cross-over folks
like Arlene Fisch who, in the 1970s, was making knitted silver wire
jewelry. And the chain-mail-b
I'd agree with your definition, except that I associate the term "fiber
art" with textile arts other than sewing.
I call it art using fiber as the medium, wearable or not. This includes
the hanging textile sculptures, wall pieces, and some garments.
Whereas, to me "wearable art" covers sew
I'm guessing you've never encountered the "perky goth" subset of goth then.
A google search should give you more than a few areas to look. As for the
Lolita's looking innocent and sweet that's the whole idea. Sweet evil and
innocent *looking*. Then you have the harajuku girls of Gwen Stefani fam
I'd agree with your definition, except that I associate the term "fiber
art" with textile arts other than sewing. Whereas, to me "wearable art"
covers sewing, weaving, spinning, knitting, crochet, embroidery, the
whole spectrum. Oh, except a hanging or sculpture is fiber art, but not
wearable.
Ren. Faires started in the early 1960s, and their founder coined the term
"living history".
Wasn't there some early connection with the SCA?
Not really. The same kind of people joined each one, but there wasn't as
much crossover as you might think. There's still some awkwardness to this
I'm unsure if you've seen the corset t-shirts but what they are is
essentially the body of the t-shirt intact with pieces of fabric added
either on the front or back with grommets in. Then you lace just like a
corset. Some are really wild others are the basic style. Also the old "add a
skirt to
It's pretty easy to put lace-up trimming down the front of a tank top.
BTW, that was a "hippie" style too. It's certainly heavily done in
ready-to-wear for the American "junior" market. In shopping malls and
online catalogs, I've seen a lot of ready-to-wear "decorated" T shirts
and tank tops
I would agree. Define wearable art. The DIY movement is VERY strong and VERY
mainstream. In particular among teenage girls. Just take a look at Etsy and
you'll see the demographics.
http://www.etsy.com/
The most popular thing to make right now in the "reconstruct" part of DIY is
t-shirts recouns
Ren. Faires started in the early 1960s, and their founder coined the
term "living history".
Wasn't there some early connection with the SCA?
Still, there was a lot of DIY, which I don't think I'm seeing
currently as a mainstream movement.
"Wearable art", while not being exactly mains
My grandmother used to make hippie crocheted vests and such for my
cousin Donna (who is some years older than I am). Donna was obsessed
with clothes, but never sewed (her mother made all her enormous
wardrobe) or crocheted (my grandmother did that).
Fran
Lavolta Press
http://www.lavoltapress.
1950s dressmaking manuals told women they could make clothes that would
look just like RTW, so they didn't have to admit they home sewed.
It was a big day in my brother's life when he stopped letting my mother sew
his shirts for him. That was about 1964.
Then, in the late 1960s and early 1
Off-the-rack clothes became THE WAY to go in the 1920s. Problem was,
during the depression of the 1930s and the war rationing and shortages
of the 1940s, a great many people had to home sew, restyle clothing, and
think up ways to use things like flour sacks just to get something to
wear. Whil
Carolyn Kayta Barrows wrote:
When did "off the rack" clothes
become THE WAY to go, as opposed to just being what
people who couldn't afford to have clothes made for
them wore?
Probably as soon as they became plentiful and cheap.
Store bought clothing and household goods became a sign of
When did "off the rack" clothes
become THE WAY to go, as opposed to just being what
people who couldn't afford to have clothes made for
them wore?
Probably as soon as they became plentiful and cheap.
CarolynKayta Barrows
dollmaker, fibre artist, textillian
www.FunStuft.com
Fran wrote:
"The whole modern wearable art movement is an
outgrowth of DIY hippie crafts. I'm hoping to see the
DIY aspects, the loving-hands-at-home experiments,
revived as a foundation for a new generation of fiber
artists."
I reply:
Huh. My first encounters with fiber-arts came with my
grandm
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