Re: [h-cost] measuring question for pleats

2009-03-12 Thread AlbertCat
 
In a message dated 3/12/2009 3:33:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
michaela.de.br...@gmail.com writes:

Very  little need for math at all. 



 
Having been the one who brought up math, I must say here that I agree. I  
mean the math will never be completely accurate unless you take into account 
the  
thickness of the fabric and its stretchability, if any and stuff like that.  
Let's not get ridiculous.
 
But it is good to know and keep in the back of your mind that full return  
pleats need 3 times the fabric. It's just a reference point. And I usually do  
the equation I wrote out on, like, 1/2 a skirt's measurements to help me keep  
things symmetrical on the other side. But fudging is always required. 
 
I like how in many 19th century skirts, where long straight lengths are  
being pleated into tiny waists, the pleating will be regular (more or less) in  
the front and sides, with the right, balanced, volume of fabric being  the 
obvious concern, and then whatever is left over is cartridge pleated into  
inches 
of CBCartridge pleating being easy to  distribute.
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Re: [h-cost] measuring question for pleats

2009-03-12 Thread michaela de bruce
Very little need for math at all. Just do as Emma says. You will wind
up with pleats possibly just shy of a full return going by the
numbers.
I usually though just mark how many pleats I want on the narrow part
and then do the same with the wider. Match pin to pin and fold the
pleats. If I want a rolled pleat I just make sure the piece being
pleated is at least four times as wide as the piece I'm pleating to.
if I want shallow pleats, I just make sure it's between two to three.
If you look at most historical garments, there is very little maths
involved at all. It's more a case of how to best fit the two pieces
that you have.

Michaela,
Who did actually take maths (calculus) all the way to university. But
fabric is not paper and you don't have to have the same rules as you
do with geometry.
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On 3/12/09, Aylwen Garden  wrote:
> I guess this is another good reason why all girls should do math at school!
>  Bye for now, toddling off now to do the math..
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Re: [h-cost] measuring question for pleats

2009-03-11 Thread Aylwen Garden
I guess this is another good reason why all girls should do math at school!
Bye for now, toddling off now to do the math..

Aylwen


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> Yes.   Don't worry about measurements.
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Re: [h-cost] measuring question for pleats

2009-03-11 Thread e...@huskers.unl.edu


Yes.   Don't worry about measurements.



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I was gonna say: "Yes. Math."

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Re: [h-cost] measuring question for pleats

2009-03-11 Thread AlbertCat
 
In a message dated 3/11/2009 10:52:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
e...@huskers.unl.edu writes:

Is there  a simple way of measuring/marking fabric that is 94cm wide
and need to have  a piece of fabric 194cm wide pleated onto it, where
the pleats are inverted  and all need to be the same size?
Bye for  now,

Aylwen
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Yes.   Don't worry about measurements.



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I was gonna say: "Yes. Math."
 
 
Full return pleats require 3 times the finished length.
 
Otherwise, you subtract the finished length from the total length of the  
unpleated fabric. What's left over is how much must be taken up in the returns. 
 
Decide how many pleats you want, divide the return length by that number and 
you  know how deep each pleat must be. (I'm not going to do it for  you)
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Re: [h-cost] measuring question for pleats

2009-03-11 Thread e...@huskers.unl.edu

Subject: [h-cost] measuring question for pleats

Dear list

Is there a simple way of measuring/marking fabric that is 94cm wide
and need to have a piece of fabric 194cm wide pleated onto it, where
the pleats are inverted and all need to be the same size?
Bye for now,

Aylwen
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Yes.  Don't worry about measurements.

Pin the ends of the two bands together, about where the seam allowance will end 
up..  Find the middles of both pieces of fabric, and pin them together.  Find 
the middles of what's left and pin them together.  Repeat until your pins are 
about as far apart on the shorter piece of fabric as you want your pleats to 
be.  Since you're doing inverted pleats, find middles and pin one more time.

The last bit is harder to explain than it would be to demonstrate: manipulate 
the fabric into the inverted pleats you want.
Okay, the shorter piece I'm going to call the band, and the looped longer piece 
is the bubbles.  Smooth the first two bubbles together, up tight against the 
second pin. (The first pin is about where your seam allowance will be. The 
second pin separates the two bubbles)  Flatten your inverted pleat and pin to 
the band.  Continue with the rest of the pleats.

Emma
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Re: [h-cost] measuring question for pleats

2009-03-11 Thread Aylwen Garden
Sorry, my measurements were wrong -
it should read as:

fabric 94cm
fabric to pleat to fit above 284cm

Image: http://www.simplicity.com/section/sewtips/graphics/invertedPleat.gif
Bye for now,

Aylwen




On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Aylwen Garden  wrote:
> Dear list
>
> Is there a simple way of measuring/marking fabric that is 94cm wide
> and need to have a piece of fabric 194cm wide pleated onto it, where
> the pleats are inverted and all need to be the same size?
> Bye for now,
>
> Aylwen
>
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[h-cost] measuring question for pleats

2009-03-11 Thread Aylwen Garden
Dear list

Is there a simple way of measuring/marking fabric that is 94cm wide
and need to have a piece of fabric 194cm wide pleated onto it, where
the pleats are inverted and all need to be the same size?
Bye for now,

Aylwen
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