Re: [h-cost] recreating a regency bonnet cap.

2010-01-17 Thread annbwass
Yes, after I posted, I realized the other person who said that 3/4 of a  
nail was undoubtedly correct.  Now I'll now if and when I try to use that  
pattern!
 
Ann Wass
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[h-cost] recreating a regency bonnet cap.

2010-01-16 Thread Sharon Doig
Hi,
I need help with some measurements please.

I am basing my recreation on the book 'The working women's guide' p. 64 [plate 
9, fig. 11,12].
I understand what yards are equal too in metric measurements but not nails. Can 
any one shed light on what a nail is equal to in mm or cm?

Also looking at figure 11 what would 3/4 stand for is that 3/4rs of a yard?

Appreciate any help you can give me.

Sharon Doig



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Re: [h-cost] recreating a regency bonnet cap.

2010-01-16 Thread Marion McNealy
I looked it up on Google books, on page 14 it handily has a conversion chart, 
I've typed it out here.

2 1/4 inches (5.715 cm) make 1 nail 

4 nails  = 1 quarter   (9 inches, 22.86 cm)
4 quarters = 1 yard   (36)
5 quarters = 1 English ell
6 quarters = 1 French ell


I would say that the 3/4's on figure 11 stands for 3/4s of a nail 

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Re: [h-cost] recreating a regency bonnet cap.

2010-01-16 Thread annbwass
 
In a message dated 1/16/2010 5:13:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
po_box_...@yahoo.com.au writes:

but not  nails. 


Do you mean the 1838 Workwoman's Guide?  I'll give you in inches and  you 
convert.  Everything was done in quarters or eighths of a yard, and a  nail 
is half of an eighth, or 2 and a quarter inches.   In this case,  I think 
those 3/4 mean 3/4 for the width of each casing, as the  measurements on the 
accompanying table do not translate to 3/4 yd.   (BTW--the suggested width 
of the fabric is 1 yd and 1 nail, or 38-1/2--very  close to a meter!)
 
Ann Wass 
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Re: [h-cost] recreating a regency bonnet cap.

2010-01-16 Thread Lavolta Press

 but not  nails.

For a really neat site on historic and other measurements, check out 
mathematician Russ Rowlett's Dictionary of Units of Measurement:


http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/

which even defines things like gnat's eye.

Fran
Books on historic clothing
Including _The Lady's Stratagem: A Repository of 1820s Directions for 
the Toilet, Mantua-Making, Stay-Making, Millinery  Etiquette_

Which includes a good selection of cap patterns and cap-making instructions
http://www.lavoltapress.com
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Re: [h-cost] recreating a regency bonnet cap.

2010-01-16 Thread Joan Jurancich

At 02:12 AM 1/16/2010, you wrote:

Hi,
I need help with some measurements please.

I am basing my recreation on the book 'The working women's guide' p. 
64 [plate 9, fig. 11,12].
I understand what yards are equal too in metric measurements but not 
nails. Can any one shed light on what a nail is equal to in mm or cm?


Also looking at figure 11 what would 3/4 stand for is that 3/4rs of a yard?

Appreciate any help you can give me.

Sharon Doig


No, the 3/4 is 3/4 nail (all the measurements in the diagram are in 
nails).  If you look at figure 12, you can see that there is some 
sort of gathering along those lines; Let there be two runners 
besides the hem in front, to admit of a tape or narrow ribbon.  A 
small tuck sufficient for a narrow tape or ribbon is sewn; the tape 
or ribbon is long enough that when you untie them (see the small bows 
at the top of the cap), they do not bury themselves in the tucks 
(i.e., runners), but allow for the cap to be ironed flat and then 
drawn up by the tapes (it's very practical).  A border is added (you 
get to choose how deep and whether doubled or not) to the front and, 
if wanted, the behind.


These patterns do require a great deal of interpretation for us 
modern folks, don't they?  But it's fun to figure them out.  My 
tuckers (American for habit shirt) are made from the patterns in 
Plate 13, figures 20 and 23, with various collars from that plate; 
the instructions are on pages 98-99.  Once you have drafted out a few 
of them, they actually make some sense =-O.  One frustration I have 
is that modern linen fabric comes essentially in one width (very 
wide); I wish I could find some narrower ones (I may have to weave 
some of my own one of these days) so that I didn't have quite so much 
felling of seams (unneeded when sewing selvedge to selvedge).



Joan Jurancich
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