Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-24 Thread Bonnie Booker
These only go back to the 18th c. I'm sure they were using something similar earlier. I wasn't thinking pinking, but slashing, straight cuts. On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Kate Bunting wrote: > Julie wrote: > > > Thanks for the responses. I knew the slashings could be done so they > >wouldn'

Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-24 Thread Kate Bunting
Julie wrote: > Thanks for the responses. I knew the slashings could be done so they >wouldn't fray. I guess the part I was really surprised by was saying that >they slashed the clothing that was too small so it could be worn. I don' t >know if that's just an origin story or what, but the Landsknec

Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-23 Thread Wanda Pease
The authors of The Tudor Tailor series are offering a line of Pinking chisels I would call them, recreated from original finds. www.tudortailor.com Regina Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2014, at 9:26 AM, wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014, Bonnie Booker wrote: >> As far as a chisel for cutting, a b

Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-23 Thread Lavolta Press
If I recall, fish glue was sometimes applied to the slashed edges, or alternatively they were overcast. Fabric cut on the bias *does* fray and stretch. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com On 7/23/2014 12:09 PM, Cherylyn Crill wrote: There were also a variety of agents that could have bee

Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-23 Thread Cherylyn Crill
There were also a variety of agents that could have been applied to cut edges that would have acted as glue, preventing fraying.  ~Cherylyn On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 11:59 AM, Lynn Downward wrote: I agree with Kate - it never really made a lot of sense to me too. It was already mention

Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-23 Thread Lynn Downward
I agree with Kate - it never really made a lot of sense to me too. It was already mentioned that the slashes on the bias wouldn't ravel as badly. The fabrics were also woven more tightly when woven by hand than now by machine, so they were even less inclined to fray. When you use one of the chisel

Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-23 Thread RC Sharp
The thing that always got me about the 'slash it to make it larger' story was it implied the Landsknechts were either 1 - too dumb to trade with someone else for a better fitting garment or 2 - too lazy to wash it, patch it, & sell it in the next town or 3 - that they were larger than everyone th

Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-23 Thread Cherylyn Crill
I have never seen evidence that this clothing was based on plunder in any way - other than the possible gold to pay for them coming from that source. There have always been stories that stated they are, but none that I can locate in the period or from period sources.  ~Cherylyn On Wednesday,

[h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-23 Thread Julie
Thanks for the responses. I knew the slashings could be done so they wouldn't fray. I guess the part I was really surprised by was saying that they slashed the clothing that was too small so it could be worn. I don' t know if that's just an origin story or what, but the Landsknect clothing I've see

Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-23 Thread lilinah
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014, Bonnie Booker wrote: > As far as a chisel for cutting, a blade works better and is easier. I would > think this is what they would use. Here are some webpages with pictures of tools used for slashing and pinking. Rather chisel-like, but quite specialized. http://thegoldensci

Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-23 Thread Bonnie Booker
I don't know that much about Lanskneckt, I'm more into women's fashions. However, I do know they would also do a buttonhole stitch around the edges to accent it more in other places in Europe. Sometimes there may be a lining they would sew the slashes to. Remember, they hand sewed everything. As fa

Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-22 Thread Magge Genie
When you look at the Lanskneckt research out there, much of it looks like a uniform. That leg short with an optional legging, that one to the knee and a long sock tied at the knee. One of the soldiers was an artist, sketching his comrades, and recorded the consistency of the clothing. The higher

Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-22 Thread Patricia Dunham
the way I heard it, a ZILLION years ago, so probably SCA-fantastic, was that the Landsknecht started out as mercenaries, who would loot the baggage as well as the bodies... and would want to wear as much of that loot at the same time, as possible as advertisement! (see how much I've collected, h

Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-22 Thread Kathleen Norvell
he fabric so it wouldn't fray. Landsknenechts were like later hussars -- all about the look. Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: Julie To: h-costume Cc: h-costume Sent: Tue, Jul 22, 2014 3:54 pm Subject: [h-cost] slashing fabric I saw this on another list and I thought I&#

Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-22 Thread Robin Netherton
I've heard this story before. I can't speak of the origins of Landsknecht (sp?) clothing, which is said to be marked by use of many pieces of contrasting fabric. Others on this list know more about that period and culture, so I'll leave it to them to verify. However, the German warriors did not

[h-cost] slashing fabric

2014-07-22 Thread Julie
I saw this on another list and I thought I'd check with the wise folks on this list. I've never heard this before. Truth or myth? " I took a history of fashion class in college (design major) and the decorative cutting of clothes goes back to the 16th century if not earlier. It started with the g