Re: [h-cost] was lacing now 1820s underwear
I find the Past Patterns corset pattern #708 to be a very useful pattern. I know they mark it as 1840-1880, but I find that it could work for 1829. It's that gusset construction... basically a cylinder with gussets added to compensate for the swell of the bust and hips that kind of construction lends itself to the earlier part of the mid-19th century. For the 1820's you might want to elongate the bottom of the corset some. Maybe not put a split busk but a solid wide one in front and even add shoulder straps. But the basic (and really lovely) shape of this corset can easily work, even with a waist 1 or so above natural level. It's easy to make and lightly boned. One could add cording or (like I have done) more bones (I put one between each existing one, running them all from top to bottom) if you want. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] was lacing now 1820s underwear
albert...@aol.com wrote: I find the Past Patterns corset pattern #708 to be a very useful pattern. I know they mark it as 1840-1880, but I find that it could work for 1829. It's that gusset construction... basically a cylinder with gussets added to compensate for the swell of the bust and hips that kind of construction lends itself to the earlier part of the mid-19th century. For the 1820's you might want to elongate the bottom of the corset some. Maybe not put a split busk but a solid wide one in front and even add shoulder straps. But the basic (and really lovely) shape of this corset can easily work, even with a waist 1 or so above natural level. -- When I was researching 1820s stays, for the earlier style, the one from the 1825 source I used, I could definitely see the philosophy of starting with straight pieces of material and then adding bust and hip gussets to accommodate the body curves. You are right about the shoulder straps. I found instructions and diagrams for 13 kinds of 1820s stays to put in _The Lady's Stratagem_, including half stays (also known as morning belts), night stays (also known as brassieres), elastic stays, and various put-them-on-by-yourself stays. Every single one of them has shoulder straps. Fran Lavolta Press New book on 1820s clothing! http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] was lacing now 1820s underwear
There's an excellent corded stays pattern put out by Past Patterns for this period. I've just cut it out and have to sew all the cording channels. Regards, Aylwen Sent from my iPhone On 29/07/2009, at 7:11 AM, Cascio Michael rosen...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, The thread on lacing was very timely as it got me going again on my late 1820s outfit so on to the questions. I'm looking at doing a late 1820s outfit from the skin out (I already have Fran's excellent book) and am not finding undergarments specifically dated to 1828. This is a transition period from the classical Regency look into the big gigot sleeves so the sleeve heads are large but not huge, the waistline has crept down to about the natural waist, maybe a little high but not right up under the bust. Classic Regency corsets are too short but a later corset (Edwardian) gives the wrong profile. Any help with links to 1826-1829 garments, particularly undergarment, or good pattern recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks. Cassandra ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] was lacing now 1820s underwear
Although can I add the stays are for 1830 and 1840, but are just as suitable for late 1820. Bye for now, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Aylwen Gardiner-Gardenaylwe...@gmail.com wrote: There's an excellent corded stays pattern put out by Past Patterns for this period. I've just cut it out and have to sew all the cording channels. Regards, Aylwen Sent from my iPhone On 29/07/2009, at 7:11 AM, Cascio Michael rosen...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, The thread on lacing was very timely as it got me going again on my late 1820s outfit so on to the questions. I'm looking at doing a late 1820s outfit from the skin out (I already have Fran's excellent book) and am not finding undergarments specifically dated to 1828. This is a transition period from the classical Regency look into the big gigot sleeves so the sleeve heads are large but not huge, the waistline has crept down to about the natural waist, maybe a little high but not right up under the bust. Classic Regency corsets are too short but a later corset (Edwardian) gives the wrong profile. Any help with links to 1826-1829 garments, particularly undergarment, or good pattern recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks. Cassandra ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] was lacing now 1820s underwear
I didn't find any references to making corded stays from the 1820s, which I found curious; only bones and wire elastics. Fran Lavolta Press New book on 1820s clothing! http://www.lavoltapress.com Aylwen Garden wrote: Although can I add the stays are for 1830 and 1840, but are just as suitable for late 1820. Bye for now, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
