Re: [Haifux] Linux Ubuntu in Haifa - help needed

2007-03-02 Thread Alon Altman

I can come over if needed and help. When is a good time?

  Alon

On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, YigalB wrote:


Hi Haifa guys



A youth club near Gesher Paz needs help: I donated two PCs with Linux
Ubuntu.



Somehow, I couldn't make the internet work there. Before I donated the PCs,
the PCs were working at my home, in a similar way (local network, router,
DHCP).

This club is serving a community which can't afford computers at home, and
this club is very important, giving the kids an alternative to the streets.



One of the local kids was assigned to teach the others how to use the Linux
machines, but the lake of Internet makes the kids run to the Windows.



If someone can help, and solve this problem - he will do a great service.
This will also bring the Linux into the kids attention.



I hope someone can help

Thanks

Yigal



PS

More computers are always needed there! If you have a PC you don't need -
just let me know. All computers go to a good purpose.




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Re: [Haifux] Linux Ubuntu in Haifa - help needed

2007-03-01 Thread Tzahi Fadida
On Thursday 01 March 2007 20:47, YigalB wrote:
 Somehow, I couldn't make the internet work there. Before I donated the PCs,
 the PCs were working at my home, in a similar way (local network, router,
 DHCP).

You need to supply a bit more information. What exactly is not working.
Do you get a ping from the router? if not, perhaps this is a 100/10 mb thing 
or you don't have dhcp there and you need to define something manually.
If you do get a ping, perhaps you did not define the gateway properly.
Check out /etc/network/interfaces

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RE: [Haifux] Linux Ubuntu in Haifa - help needed

2007-03-01 Thread YigalB
 On Thursday 01 March 2007 20:47, YigalB wrote:
 Somehow, I couldn't make the internet work there. Before I donated the
PCs,
 the PCs were working at my home, in a similar way (local network, router,
 DHCP).

You need to supply a bit more information. What exactly is not working.
Do you get a ping from the router? if not, perhaps this is a 100/10 mb
thing 
or you don't have dhcp there and you need to define something manually.
If you do get a ping, perhaps you did not define the gateway properly.
Check out /etc/network/interfaces


Tzahi

I am new to Linux myself, so now I learned there is such file. 
I didn't look at this file, since I didn't know it exist, so I didn't ping
as well since I didn't know the address of the router.

Anyway - I am sure there is a DHCP working there, since I was told they
connected several Windows machines and they worked fine.

What I did is to look and make sure the network tools and to see that
Ethernet device was enabled and in DHCP automatic IP mode.

I am sure I missed something, since it didn't work. 

On the other hand, it did work at my home before I delivered them the PC.
Perhaps the installation process set something that match my home setting
and not that place? 

Can I run re-installation just for the network, something like a wizard?

Thanks
Yigal




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Re: [Haifux] Linux Ubuntu in Haifa - help needed

2007-03-01 Thread Tzahi Fadida
On Thursday 01 March 2007 22:12, YigalB wrote:
 On the other hand, it did work at my home before I delivered them the PC.
 Perhaps the installation process set something that match my home setting
 and not that place?

It is possible, especially if you used a dialer script like netvision scripts 
etc... I.e. the routing tables have a default gateway that came from that 
scripts. Another possibility, if the ethernet cable is long like 15meters and 
the ethernet is on board, perhaps you need to change the interface to 
10MB-FD. This sometimes happen with the cheap boards.
Though if it worked on windows without touching anything in the drivers, than 
it shouldn't be a problem.

In the end, we need to have some output in order to help you.
I.e. ifconfig, route -n, cat /etc/network/interfaces.


 Can I run re-installation just for the network, something like a wizard?

I don't user gnome tools so i cannot say. I use kubuntu with kde.
In kde it is in the system settings.

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Re: [Haifux] Linux Ubuntu in Haifa - help needed

2007-03-01 Thread Julian Daich
El jue, 01-03-2007 a las 20:47 +0200, YigalB escribió:
 Hi Haifa guys 
 
  
 
 A youth club near “Gesher Paz” needs help: I donated two PCs with
 Linux Ubuntu.
 
  
 
 Somehow, I couldn’t make the internet work there. Before I donated the
 PCs, the PCs were working at my home, in a similar way (local network,
 router, DHCP).
 
Which router- modem- hub are you using?
They are those from your home? How did you set them up?

 This club is serving a community which can’t afford computers at home,
 and this club is very important, giving the kids an alternative to the
 streets.
 
  
 
 One of the local kids was assigned to teach the others how to use the
 Linux machines, but the lake of Internet makes the kids run to the
 Windows.
Can those machines connect to the Internet though Windows?
 
  
 
 If someone can help, and solve this problem – he will do a great
 service. This will also bring the Linux into the kids attention.
 
  
 
 I hope someone can help
 
 Thanks
 
 Yigal
 
  
 
 PS
 
 More computers are always needed there! If you have a PC you don’t
 need – just let me know. All computers go to a good purpose.
 
 
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