Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-29 Thread Rob Malpass
-Original Message- From: hampshire-boun...@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:hampshire- boun...@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Vic Sent: 27 July 2010 10:48 To: hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad [snip] Nevertheless, if Outlook can connect

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-28 Thread Jacqui Caren-home
Jan Henkins wrote: Wow, those are good figures! I don't come even close, but then again I spend about 1 hour per year twiddling with spamassassin. With that amount of effort you cannot expect much! :-) Still, I get a 90% + rejection, which I think is great under the circumstances (great result

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-28 Thread Jan Henkins
Hello Jacqui, On Wed, July 28, 2010 15:11, Jacqui Caren-home wrote: Jan, have a look at assp - very lightweight easy to configure - after a good RTFM session. Work gets maybe 30K emails with only ~20 emails in that lot that should be let through. Hmm, I know what I will be doing this

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-28 Thread Vic
With large service providers (GMail, Yahoo!), the retries come from different IP addresses, and so are treated as a new attempt by the greylister. Oh, I see. I thought we were talking about clamd causing greylisting code to go into huge retry loops. AISI, this is an innate problem with

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-27 Thread Jacqui Caren-home
Vic wrote: Now virgin are insisting on a password being entered every time I check my email once every couple of minutes for 3 accounts - super irritating. This despite me ticking the remember password box. Now before anyone shouts that this is an outlook problem, if I change my default

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-27 Thread robert.beattie
...Nevertheless, if Outlook can connect when given the credentials manually, but not do it automatically, then it is an Outlook problem. Running Ubuntu 10.04 with Evolution and am now experiencing this same problem since Sunday. rant and the thing which really ticks me off about the new

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-27 Thread Vic
rant and the thing which really ticks me off about the new Virgin email system is that I cannot switch off their spam filter We are into the governance of market forces. If you want things to change, you have to make sure it costs Virgin not to change them. That usually means changing ISP[1].

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-27 Thread Tim
On Tuesday 27 July 2010 10:56:48 robert.beat...@nokia.com wrote: ...Nevertheless, if Outlook can connect when given the credentials manually, but not do it automatically, then it is an Outlook problem. Running Ubuntu 10.04 with Evolution and am now experiencing this same problem since

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-27 Thread Jacqui Caren-home
Vic wrote: Now virgin are insisting on a password being entered every time I check my email once every couple of minutes for 3 accounts - super irritating. This despite me ticking the remember password box. Now before anyone shouts that this is an outlook problem, if I change my default

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-27 Thread Jacqui Caren-home
Jacqui Caren-home wrote: No - that *is* an Outlook problem. If it's got the password it should be able to authenticate to any service that requires that password. But this wouldn't be the first time I've seen a Windows app caching the wrong password (Explorer does it with incredible frequency).

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-27 Thread Jacqui Caren-home
Vic wrote: rant and the thing which really ticks me off about the new Virgin email system is that I cannot switch off their spam filter We are into the governance of market forces. Also google are now reading/archiving/analysing your email - expect very highly targetted span real soon now.

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-27 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 27 July 2010 13:07, Jacqui Caren-home jacqui.ca...@ntlworld.com wrote: Also google are now reading/archiving/analysing your email - expect very highly targetted span real soon now. I have been using Google's email system for some time now. At least I know they are analysing my email. Spam is

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-27 Thread Vic
Anybody who is worried about what others may make of their email should find another way of communicating. Once you press send, there is little control over what machines it will pass through. I always considered email to be as private as a postcard. That depends on your email setup. I have

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-27 Thread Jan Henkins
On Tue, July 27, 2010 13:07, Jacqui Caren-home wrote: Also google are now reading/archiving/analysing your email - expect very highly targetted span real soon now. Which is why I have been running my own mail server (VPS) now for almost 8 years. It's cheap, does exactly what I want it to do.

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-27 Thread Vic
I have been running my own mail server (VPS) now for almost 8 years. It's cheap, does exactly what I want it to do. Likewise - but I run mine on a PC sat on my home ADSL connection. It's really not much bandwidth, nor much processing... Sure, my antispam does not even come close to Google's

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-27 Thread Jan Henkins
Hello Vic, On Tue, July 27, 2010 14:57, Vic wrote: Likewise - but I run mine on a PC sat on my home ADSL connection. It's really not much bandwidth, nor much processing... I opted for the VPS route mainly because I was still based in South Africa at the time, and even now the incumbent telco

[Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-26 Thread Rob Malpass
Hi all Purely in the interests of fairness: I have just received some tech support from virgin media and it worked. It was delivered from a UK call centre and the staff member knew exactly what I needed to do. Also purely in the interests of fairness: it has led to another problem they

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-26 Thread Wayne Lee
Hi Rob if I change my default gateway to virgin – the problem goes away Are you running both connections at the same time ? If so you could always add a static route on the machine to connect to Virgin's mail server via the Virgin gateway and leave the default route via your DSL Regards

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-26 Thread Dee Earley
On 26/07/2010 19:08, Rob Malpass wrote: Hi all I have two routers – one on virgin cablemodem, one on Zen ADSL. Prior to today, I was permanently using the ADSL router but this prohibited sending virgin mail as I “wasn’t connected to their network”. Fair enough – virgin is my old email so I

Re: [Hampshire] Virgin media: good and bad

2010-07-26 Thread Vic
Now virgin are insisting on a password being entered every time I check my email once every couple of minutes for 3 accounts - super irritating. This despite me ticking the remember password box. Now before anyone shouts that this is an outlook problem, if I change my default gateway to