Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-10 Thread Vic
The untrusted box is behind the ADSL router only, so has exactly the same protection as it currently has And that is the problem. It is an ineffective solution with several additional problems. It is not something I could recommend. As for the hassle of reconfiguring on the current network,

Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-09 Thread Paul Tansom
** Rob Malpass li...@getiton.myzen.co.uk [2011-05-07 09:50]: Moving house shortly which means, for the first time, I have to have my father in law on my network. Now while he's no hacker, he is fond of fiddling and has managed to crash his (Windows) machine so badly over the years that

Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-09 Thread Vic
If you connect the 'internet' side to the ADSL router you effectively put anything connected directly to the ADSL router into a sort of DMZ (sort of since it is still firewalled as normal, so not really a proper DMZ) with a separate IP address range that is firewalled off from the rest of

Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-09 Thread Benjie Gillam
Eclipse used to do multiple IP addresses, I don't know if your ISP does. If so, you could do this with 3 devices: ADSL router and 2x ethernet routers, then you set up 2x standard NAT one on each IP address. That'll safely separate the networks. Benjie. On 9 May 2011 16:43, Vic l...@beer.org.uk

Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-09 Thread Paul Tansom
** Vic l...@beer.org.uk [2011-05-09 16:44]: If you connect the 'internet' side to the ADSL router you effectively put anything connected directly to the ADSL router into a sort of DMZ (sort of since it is still firewalled as normal, so not really a proper DMZ) with a separate IP

Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-08 Thread Rob Malpass
-Original Message- From: hampshire-boun...@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:hampshire- boun...@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Smith Sent: 07 May 2011 09:57 To: hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies More info needed. How will his

Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Rob, On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 10:08:41AM +0100, Rob Malpass wrote: He's running one W7 machine and will be connected via cable to a hub. Sounds like ipcop or something similar is the way to go - though I must admit I'm sorely tempted to get a cheap ISP and put it down our second phone

[Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-07 Thread Rob Malpass
Hi all Moving house shortly which means, for the first time, I have to have my father in law on my network. Now while he's no hacker, he is fond of fiddling and has managed to crash his (Windows) machine so badly over the years that nothing short of a full reinstall has fixed it. His

Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-07 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Rob, On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 09:49:29AM +0100, Rob Malpass wrote: What I want is to keep him isolated so he can't even see any network devices, printers - just let him share the connection. More info needed. How will his computer(s) connect to your LAN? Direct connection to a switch? WiFi?

Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-07 Thread Vic
What I want is to keep him isolated That's always a good plan with relatives :-) Do you have a server running? That makes life very easy. Add a second network card to it. This will form your untrusted network. Set your machine to forward IP packets between interfaces (echo 1

Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-07 Thread Jacqui Caren-home
On 07/05/2011 09:59, Vic wrote: What I want is to keep him isolated That's always a good plan with relatives :-) Do you have a server running? That makes life very easy. If you want WiFi on that network, set up another WiFi router and connect one of its LAN ports to you untrusted

Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-07 Thread Ian Grody
If you have a relatively powerful spare PC, use pfSense. This has AV proxy, Snort w/ ET THREATS standard rules (VPS if you pay snort for them). It also supports a wealth of other things not found in SOHO routers, or router distros. You can easily firewall, segregate, bridge or whatever into

Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-07 Thread Ian Grody
On Saturday 07 May 2011 12:41:55 Ian Grody wrote: If you have a relatively powerful spare PC, use pfSense. By this, I use a P3 533MHz w/ runs snort and av proxy fine. This box handles 34 users at any one time too! :-) This has AV proxy, Snort w/ ET THREATS standard rules (VPS if you pay