Re: Increasing amount of spam on the mailing list
Hi Karl, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 09:25:42AM +1000, Karl Kloppenborg wrote: Hi All Willy, I am seeing an increasing amount of spam / viral infection data coming across the mailing list. I know, there are some periods. Surely, like surely you don't need an entirely open mailinglist, it's so easy to implement a verification of identity confirmation these days? As we already discussed it, I *refuse* to have any form of identity-based filtering on the list. It's very annoying for people who get CCed from a mailing list to discover they can't respond or that their response is being checked. I find this very impolite and counter-productive. There are about 500 permanent subscribers to the list, very few of which are having problem with the spam level. A number of other ones just subscribe for a few days to follow a thread then unsubscribe. I'm very fine with this method if they really can't stand the amount of spam and I invite subscribers who are uncomfortable with the spam to unsubscribe. As Allan said it, the bounce messages are much more annoying than the spam, especially the holiday messages, and I have no magic recipe for filtering those out. There are people who sometimes don't get some messages or who receive messages indicating that some mails were bouncing on their side, which we haven't yet troubleshooted. I'm much more concerned with this because people who expect messages to be delivered don't get them. Right now I would say that the amount of spam I get via the list is so low compared to what I have in my other boxes that chances to reach me are much higher via the list than via my other addresses. I am even happy to help in setting this up if you are too busy. Well, that's kind, but you will certainly understand that I would never want to put the list into the hands of someone who's concerned with 2 spams a day. I'm sure you'll be able to get rid of those, but at the expense of the list's accessibility or reliability. My concern is that the list works fine for its users and that we don't block their mails. They can freely ignore the tiny amount of residual spam or unsubscribe. Thanks, Willy
Re: Increasing amount of spam on the mailing list
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:59:15PM -0700, carlo flores wrote: I love the suggestion and offer to administrate the mail list (and I too volunteer), but, ultimately: whatever. SPAM is part of most any list and the more time the guys spend on one of the best pieces of software in the world, the better. I happily skip these messages in hopes Willy Cyril and the guys never care about wasting their time with mailman and postgix plugins or whatever this list uses. Exactly, when I open the list, I press D twice to remove the avg two spams and/or bounce messages and don't even remember what they were. Spam should be ignored, not fought. Thanks, Willy
RE: Increasing amount of spam on the mailing list
That's fair enough, I am more talking about the viruses... I don't particularly mind the advert spam as such, ignore and cover your ears.. Karl Kloppenborg Head of Development Phone: 1300 884 839 (AU Only - Business Hours) Website: AU http://www.crucial.com.au | US http://www.crucialp.com -Original Message- From: Willy Tarreau [mailto:w...@1wt.eu] Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011 4:13 PM To: carlo flores Cc: Karl Kloppenborg; Allan Wind; haproxy@formilux.org Subject: Re: Increasing amount of spam on the mailing list On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:59:15PM -0700, carlo flores wrote: I love the suggestion and offer to administrate the mail list (and I too volunteer), but, ultimately: whatever. SPAM is part of most any list and the more time the guys spend on one of the best pieces of software in the world, the better. I happily skip these messages in hopes Willy Cyril and the guys never care about wasting their time with mailman and postgix plugins or whatever this list uses. Exactly, when I open the list, I press D twice to remove the avg two spams and/or bounce messages and don't even remember what they were. Spam should be ignored, not fought. Thanks, Willy
Re: Increasing amount of spam on the mailing list
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:12:56 +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:59:15PM -0700, carlo flores wrote: I love the suggestion and offer to administrate the mail list (and I too volunteer), but, ultimately: whatever. SPAM is part of most any list and the more time the guys spend on one of the best pieces of software in the world, the better. I happily skip these messages in hopes Willy Cyril and the guys never care about wasting their time with mailman and postgix plugins or whatever this list uses. Exactly, when I open the list, I press D twice to remove the avg two spams and/or bounce messages and don't even remember what they were. Spam should be ignored, not fought. I personnaly find the haproxy mailing list to be a great training center for my DSPAM installation :) So please don't remove it :D Julien
Re: Increasing amount of spam on the mailing list
On 2011-07-26 09:25:42, Karl Kloppenborg wrote: Surely, like surely you don't need an entirely open mailinglist, it's so easy to implement a verification of identity confirmation these days? I filter spam so the main problem I see is bounce messages which are sent to the list for some strange reason. Noted this a few months back. /Allan -- Allan Wind Life Integrity, LLC http://lifeintegrity.com
RE: Increasing amount of spam on the mailing list
Whilst I agree that you can filter, it's not exactly responsible that the mailinglist have this many viral infections running across it... Karl Kloppenborg Head of Development Phone: 1300 884 839 (AU Only - Business Hours) Website: AU http://www.crucial.com.au | US http://www.crucialp.com -Original Message- From: Allan Wind [mailto:allan_w...@lifeintegrity.com] Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011 10:34 AM To: haproxy@formilux.org Subject: Re: Increasing amount of spam on the mailing list On 2011-07-26 09:25:42, Karl Kloppenborg wrote: Surely, like surely you don't need an entirely open mailinglist, it's so easy to implement a verification of identity confirmation these days? I filter spam so the main problem I see is bounce messages which are sent to the list for some strange reason. Noted this a few months back. /Allan -- Allan Wind Life Integrity, LLC http://lifeintegrity.com
Re: Increasing amount of spam on the mailing list
I love the suggestion and offer to administrate the mail list (and I too volunteer), but, ultimately: whatever. SPAM is part of most any list and the more time the guys spend on one of the best pieces of software in the world, the better. I happily skip these messages in hopes Willy Cyril and the guys never care about wasting their time with mailman and postgix plugins or whatever this list uses. On Monday, July 25, 2011, Karl Kloppenborg k...@crucialp.com wrote: Whilst I agree that you can filter, it's not exactly responsible that the mailinglist have this many viral infections running across it... Karl Kloppenborg Head of Development Phone: 1300 884 839 (AU Only - Business Hours) Website: AU http://www.crucial.com.au | US http://www.crucialp.com -Original Message- From: Allan Wind [mailto:allan_w...@lifeintegrity.com] Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011 10:34 AM To: haproxy@formilux.org Subject: Re: Increasing amount of spam on the mailing list On 2011-07-26 09:25:42, Karl Kloppenborg wrote: Surely, like surely you don't need an entirely open mailinglist, it's so easy to implement a verification of identity confirmation these days? I filter spam so the main problem I see is bounce messages which are sent to the list for some strange reason. Noted this a few months back. /Allan -- Allan Wind Life Integrity, LLC http://lifeintegrity.com
