Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: "Not even my mother knows what a theorist is."

2005-08-25 Thread A. Forrey
Jae: FYI the UW School of Nursing is already active in teaching about the EHR using VistA as one of the resources; They have an information systems engineer on the faculty and will be coordinating their course material with the other Schools of the UW Health Sciences Center (HSC) so that the N

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: "Not even my mother knows what a theorist is."

2005-08-24 Thread jae kim
Only now some nursing school curriculum starts to include "nursing informatics" but I doubt the depth of the course will be able to cover even the beginner's level software engineering stuff. (not the engineering itself but what and how the user input goes into the process.) Faculties teaching thos

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: "Not even my mother knows what a theorist is."

2005-08-24 Thread A. Forrey
Joseph: All countries will have to work at this as it is more complex thatn they first think. Look at the IOM 2003 Report "Health Professions Education: A Bridge to Quality". A Core Competency is "Use Informatics" and this enables the other four Core Competencies mentioned. But everyone has had

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: "Not even my mother knows what a theorist is."

2005-08-24 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
The countries with so-called "social medicine" are and have been making the same mistakes with EHRs the US is/has (I say this from the perspective of having dual EU/Candian citizenship...live in Canada, all my relatives live in Europe or Australia and I have worked in health IT internationally

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: "Not even my mother knows what a theorist is."

2005-08-24 Thread Nancy Anthracite
That is a good JOKE, Jae! I have a very limited knowledge of all of this, a LOT less than the limited knowledge that real experts like Cameron Schlehuber and others who also say they have "limited knowledge" have. You will not run out of interesting things to explore with VistA in your lifet

[Hardhats-members] Re: "Not even my mother knows what a theorist is."

2005-08-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Welcome, Jae. I haven't seen you post before. Let us know if we can be of help. I'll be sure to send you Nancy's way if I can't figure something out. Kevin Toppenberg On 8/24/05, jae kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cheer up. I think this is the most interesing list I've ever registered. > I

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: "Not even my mother knows what a theorist is."

2005-08-24 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Clearly you have found a good home with us. Welcome aboard! On Wednesday 24 August 2005 02:19 pm, jae kim wrote: > Cheer up. I think this is the most interesing list I've ever registered. > I decided to change my career to health care and now I'm > starting from the bottom like ER Tech and nursin

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: "Not even my mother knows what a theorist is."

2005-08-24 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Heck, I didn't notice any more than his ordinary "curmudgeoness", which I rag him about, all in good fun, regularly. That's how you know it is Greg writing in - that and if it is about computer related philosophy. Keeps us all on and even keel, sorta like those signature quotes he includes. ;-

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: "Not even my mother knows what a theorist is."

2005-08-24 Thread jae kim
Cheer up. I think this is the most interesing list I've ever registered. I decided to change my career to health care and now I'm starting from the bottom like ER Tech and nursing. So I will come from the other direction. They (most nurses and doctors) have just no clue about what this computer thi

[Hardhats-members] Re: "Not even my mother knows what a theorist is."

2005-08-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Hang in there Greg. Sorry it has been a bad few days. But I didn't notice any undue grumpiness. :-) Kevin On 8/24/05, Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm watching The Science Channel right now, and the cosmologist Saul > Perlmutter (I think I got that right) just said: "I'm