RE: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-23 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
age- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:46 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions Yes, I said I thought the Alpha was big endian and I was mista

RE: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-23 Thread Ruben Safir
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 11:05 -0400, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > Bhaskar has been quiet because he was on vacation for two weeks, and > has > been catching up with his e-mail since his return on Monday morning, > August 22. Reggie said this in 1977 ;) Ruben

RE: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-23 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Yes, I said I thought the Alpha was big endian and I was mistaken. Given that it is essentially the successor to the VAX, I should have known better. --- "K.S. Bhaskar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Incidentally, the comments about the Alpha being big endian are > incorrect - x86 (and the AMD x

RE: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-23 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Bhaskar has been quiet because he was on vacation for two weeks, and has been catching up with his e-mail since his return on Monday morning, August 22. Since his return and diligent attempt to get through things that accumulated in his absence, the number of unread e-mail messages in his Inbox ha

Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-23 Thread steven mcphelan
: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions This will be the last email, promise. I guess my terribly unnecessary concern is that when VA hospitals with current 32 bit whatever machine ( are they using Windows on Intel now? or IBM w/ PPC?) want to upgrade their hardware to new 64 bi

RE: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-23 Thread Greg Woodhouse
riginal Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > jae kim > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 11:58 PM > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions > > yes, i think s

RE: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-23 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
Behalf Of jae kim Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 11:58 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions yes, i think so. I liked big-endian better because my Fortran code never had to see Intel chip. Later I had to write some apps to

RE: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-23 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
, August 22, 2005 11:44 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions I'm fairly certain the Alpha is big endian. In fact, I think pretty much everything except Intel is big endian. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-23 Thread Chris Richardson
AIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:42 PM Subject: Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions This will be the last email, promise. I guess my terribly unnecessary concern is that when VA hospitals with current 32 bit whatever machine ( are they using Windows

Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-22 Thread jae kim
This will be the last email, promise. I guess my terribly unnecessary concern is that when VA hospitals with current 32 bit whatever machine ( are they using Windows on Intel now? or IBM w/ PPC?) want to upgrade their hardware to new 64 bit Intel/AMD chip, (very possible scenario in the near futur

Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-22 Thread chuck5566
I certainly intend to stay with OS X as long as it's practical to do so, and I know that there is a contingent of clinicians out there that would very much prefer to not give up their Macs. I'd like to request a separately mailing list for us Mac fanatics so that we don't bore the snot out

Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-22 Thread Ruben Safir
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 00:44, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: > Actually, I think you may be confusing a couple of issues here (or > maybe not). A 64-bit platform operates on data in 64-bit "chunks" at > the instruction set level. When you load a value from main memory > into a register, it is a 64-b

Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-22 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Actually, I think you may be confusing a couple of issues here (or maybe not). A 64-bit platform operates on data in 64-bit "chunks" at the instruction set level. When you load a value from main memory into a register, it is a 64-bit value that you load. When you add two integers, it is 64-

Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-22 Thread jae kim
ugghh, I didn't know the other thread was talking about reading files by M. It must be the longest thread, 69 emails so far. anyway, I stopped reading it after about 20. i'll wait until all the smart people figure out how to handle millions of patients worth of data file to convert from 32 bit big-

Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-22 Thread jae kim
yes, i think so. I liked big-endian better because my Fortran code never had to see Intel chip. Later I had to write some apps to convert big-endian data (Irix) to be read in little-endian supercomputer. Just googled this: http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/documentation/cache5docs/PDFS/

Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-22 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
I'm fairly certain the Alpha is big endian. In fact, I think pretty much everything except Intel is big endian. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] "It is foolish to answer a question that you do not understand." --G. Polya ("How to Solve It") On Aug 22, 2005, at 7:15 PM, jae kim wrote:

Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-22 Thread whitten
> > Is MUMPS + VistA used on any other big endian machine? > Just curious.=20 > > J. I don't recall if the Data General or IBM 360/370 machines were big endian. MUMPS has run on so many machines that I feel confident that it has run on as many variations of computers as you wish. No one to my k

Re: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-22 Thread jae kim
Is MUMPS + VistA used on any other big endian machine? Just curious. J. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Deve

RE: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions

2005-08-22 Thread David Sommers
I believe the issue was related to compiler specific "optimizations" in the C implementation of the M compiler. Bhaskar's been quiet lately but we've discussed this on the list before. I was interested because I simply love my MAC. Even though I'm about to paste in part of the discussion to port